Some masks better than others

lenny2

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Doctors are seeing a rise in the bacterial infection "IMPETIGO" in children who wear masks
Because they ignorantly fail to follow health guidelines to wash or sterilize their masks.

This rare condition was reported to have increased at one hospital. Statistically insignificant.
 
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lenny2

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Its a massive 2nd wave, and nobody knows why because so many people are wearing masks and yet its not helping.
Of course they know why. It's because of lockdowns ending, restrictions being eased, back to school, covidiots irresponsibility, etc. The vast majority of health experts & countries recommend or mandate mask use because they know the science supports it. It's just common sense, actually, & i was saying that even before the CDC recommended them.
 

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Excellent article full of the latest cutting edge scientific evidence for mask wearing:

"In a review9 of observational studies, an international research team estimates that surgical and comparable cloth masks are 67% effective in protecting the wearer."

 
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doggystyle99

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Just admit there's something in addition to antibodies called T-cell mediated immunity, which you didnt know.

And Sweden is indeed approaching herd immunity, thats why their new infections compared to other countries is much lower
Still incorrect.
Herd immunity had nothing to do with the number of deaths like you tried to claim, and herd immunity certainly has nothing to do with if the number of new infections in one country is lower compared to other countries.
Again herd immunity has everything to do with how prevalent the virus is replicating in one location or in this case a country.

As for your Sweden assumptions, it's just that a false assumption based on your non factual opinions.
Facts are the number of infections in Sweden has sharply increased over the last 1.5 months, since the beginning of September just like it has increased in many other countries which are based on some other factors that you simply cannot, have not and will not understand.

You had already assumed they had reached herd immunity because the numbers of deaths had been significantly lowered, and everyone with the smallest amount of knowledge knows that was FALSE.
Now you are claiming they are "approaching herd immunity" because their infections compared to other countries is much lower, again that's now herd immunity works and is FALSE

Sweden in the last 3 days had 657 cases yesterday, 831 cases on October 7th and 657 cases on October 6th.
Their 7 day average has increased from 162 on September 1st to a whopping 568 as of yesterday October 8th.
The importance is that their 7 day average has increased almost by 10% in 3 days, and this roughly 10% increase has been happening every 3-5 days since the beginning of September.
All of this proves they have not reached herd immunity nor anywhere near it, if they were anywhere close to it the number of cases would be going down (lower) on a continuous trend instead of what we are seeing.

Although you are free to assume the opposite all you want, but it doesn't make it factual.


As usual your definition of how herd immunity works is opposite to the facts.
 
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As predicted we are rolled back to a stage 2 lite!

I'd like to thank Canadaman and his Amigo gang for contributing to all the restaurants, bars , gyms etc.....having to shut down because they insist on fighting masks and good COVID practices! Congratulation on your achievement AMIGOS!!
 

doggystyle99

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As predicted we are rolled back to a stage 2 lite!

I'd like to thank Canadaman and his Amigo gang for contributing to all the restaurants, bars , gyms etc.....having to shut down because they insist on fighting masks and good COVID practices! Congratulation on your achievement AMIGOS!!
Fucking Dougie, Dougie, Dougie.................every turn he makes he is blowing my mind. I wanna hate the guy because he is a Ford and a Conservative but I've got some serious Bromance for him ever since COVID :LOL:
Fuck it looks like I have no other option but to vote for him in the next election :LOL:

I am glad he rolled it back to phase 2, maybe some of these guys will learn the valuable lesson and the next time they reopen they take these guidelines very seriously. They can stay in their 600 sq ft condos with nothing to do and nowhere to go. :LOL:
Unfortunately though the selfish owners are a cause for the good and responsible restaurants/bars also being punished. I am really upset for those guys as I do have a few friends in the industry but unfortunately when there is a significant part of an industry disobeying the guidelines the government has no other option but to shut things down.
What's mind boggling to me is that these people have not and can not understand that following simple guidelines is not only beneficial for them to more quickly having some sense of normalcy to their lives but also for all businesses to stay open. SMH
 
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Except for the 5% of the particles that pass through a N95. If it's a valved N95, it does nothing to protect others from your exhaled droplets.

Any face covering will help reduce the viral spread. N95 just reduces it more.
Not true. The valved masks are quite effective. They do quite a lot to limit the outgoing droplets. No medical/scientific findings to dispute it. Your opinion is theoretical.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Still incorrect.
Herd immunity had nothing to do with the number of deaths like you tried to claim, and herd immunity certainly has nothing to do with if the number of new infections in one country is lower compared to other countries.
Again herd immunity has everything to do with how prevalent the virus is replicating in one location or in this case a country.

As for your Sweden assumptions, it's just that a false assumption based on your non factual opinions.
Facts are the number of infections in Sweden has sharply increased over the last 1.5 months, since the beginning of September just like it has increased in many other countries which are based on some other factors that you simply cannot, have not and will not understand.

You had already assumed they had reached herd immunity because the numbers of deaths had been significantly lowered, and everyone with the smallest amount of knowledge knows that was FALSE.
Now you are claiming they are "approaching herd immunity" because their infections compared to other countries is much lower, again that's now herd immunity works and is FALSE
You are wrong on all counts
 
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doggystyle99

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You are wrong on all counts
I am 100% right.
Earlier you had falsely assumed that Sweden had already reached herd immunity as you claimed because the number of deaths had been significantly lowered, when it was proven that the number of daily deaths if not proof off whether herd immunity is achieved you moved on to the following point.
Now you are claiming they are "approaching herd immunity" because their infections compared to other countries is much lower. Again that's a FALSE statement as that's not how herd immunity is established, and the comparison of how many cases there are in country in comparison to another is not proof of it.

Herd immunity has nothing to do with the number of deaths like you tried to claim, and herd immunity certainly has nothing to do with if the number of new infections in one country is lower compared to other countries. Herd immunity has everything to do with how prevalent the spread of the virus is in one location. And in Sweden they are nowhere near herd immunity as the facts are the number of cases has increased over an extended period of time, if they were close to or reached herd immunity already that number of cases would have been on a decline over an extended period of time.

Sweden in the last 3 days had 657 cases yesterday, 831 cases on October 7th and 657 cases on October 6th.

Their 7 day average has increased from 162 on September 1st to a whopping 568 as of yesterday October 8th.

The importance is that their 7 day average has increased almost by 10% in 3 days, and this roughly 10% increase has been happening every 3-5 days since the beginning of September.

Although you are free to assume the opposite all you want, but it doesn't make it factual.

As usual your definition of how herd immunity works is opposite to the facts.
 
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I am 100% right.
Earlier you had falsely assumed that Sweden had already reached herd immunity as you claimed because the number of deaths had been significantly lowered, when it was proven that the number of daily deaths if not proof off whether herd immunity is achieved you moved on to the following point.
Now you are claiming they are "approaching herd immunity" because their infections compared to other countries is much lower. Again that's a FALSE statement as that's not how herd immunity is established, and the comparison of how many cases there are in country in comparison to another is not proof of it.

Herd immunity has nothing to do with the number of deaths like you tried to claim, and herd immunity certainly has nothing to do with if the number of new infections in one country is lower compared to other countries. Herd immunity has everything to do with how prevalent the spread of the virus is in one location. And in Sweden they are nowhere near herd immunity as the facts are the number of cases has increased over an extended period of time, if they were close to or reached herd immunity already that number of cases would have been on a decline over an extended period of time.

Sweden in the last 3 days had 657 cases yesterday, 831 cases on October 7th and 657 cases on October 6th.

Their 7 day average has increased from 162 on September 1st to a whopping 568 as of yesterday October 8th.

The importance is that their 7 day average has increased almost by 10% in 3 days, and this roughly 10% increase has been happening every 3-5 days since the beginning of September.

Although you are free to assume the opposite all you want, but it doesn't make it factual.

As usual your definition of how herd immunity works is opposite to the facts.
Stop throwing facts at the Amigos! They want to hear fiction and tall tales.

try this one

Guys, it's just a chest cold, It's nothing!
 
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doggystyle99

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Stop throwing facts at the Amigos! They want to hear fiction and tall tales.

try this one

Guys, it's just a chest cold, It's nothing!
The lack of information and the complete ignorance by some on the subject and feeling a non factual opinion is right is mind boggling.
Amazing that the 7 day average number of cases in Sweden since September 1st up to October 8th has increased by 350% and yet there are some "Stable Genius's" trying to ignorantly and irrationally argue the opposite of what has happened is happening.
I've never met anyone trying to incessantly argue that numbers which are on the increase is a sign of the exact opposite, but there are a few of these types on TERB. Back to teaching these people what increasing and decreasing means. :ROFLMAO:
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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I am 100% right.
Earlier you had falsely assumed that Sweden had already reached herd immunity as you claimed because the number of deaths had been significantly lowered, when it was proven that the number of daily deaths if not proof off whether herd immunity is achieved you moved on to the following point.
Now you are claiming they are "approaching herd immunity" because their infections compared to other countries is much lower. Again that's a FALSE statement as that's not how herd immunity is established, and the comparison of how many cases there are in country in comparison to another is not proof of it.

Herd immunity has nothing to do with the number of deaths like you tried to claim, and herd immunity certainly has nothing to do with if the number of new infections in one country is lower compared to other countries. Herd immunity has everything to do with how prevalent the spread of the virus is in one location. And in Sweden they are nowhere near herd immunity as the facts are the number of cases has increased over an extended period of time, if they were close to or reached herd immunity already that number of cases would have been on a decline over an extended period of time.

Sweden in the last 3 days had 657 cases yesterday, 831 cases on October 7th and 657 cases on October 6th.

Their 7 day average has increased from 162 on September 1st to a whopping 568 as of yesterday October 8th.

The importance is that their 7 day average has increased almost by 10% in 3 days, and this roughly 10% increase has been happening every 3-5 days since the beginning of September.

Although you are free to assume the opposite all you want, but it doesn't make it factual.

As usual your definition of how herd immunity works is opposite to the facts.
You are still wrong on all counts
 

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Masks for healthy people are useless and wearing one is very dehumanizing.

99.9% survival rate, media got everyone riled up into a fear induced coma.

give me back the old normal pls, lockdowns are a scam.
 

doggystyle99

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Masks for healthy people are useless and wearing one is very dehumanizing.

99.9% survival rate, media got everyone riled up into a fear induced coma.

give me back the old normal pls, lockdowns are a scam.

The Coronavirus certainly does not currently have a survival rate of 99.9% or whatever the “Stable Genius” and his followers claim, when it’s all done it should be close to or slightly lower than 99% but even that number will be dependant on people’s response to the virus.
The issue is when we already have a very contagious virus that has already affected 37,000,000+ cases across the world in roughly 10 months with mostly preventive measures in place that represents not only a significant numbers of people affected but a significant threat even if the death rate is only 1%.
 
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