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Teachers Union Sabotaging Education

JohnLarue

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Oh Frankfooter... not good... when you mention to Johnny he should go to the U.S. this is what happens...
not good is right
telling a Canadian to leave his country is almost as
despicable as using children as negotiating pawns
 

JohnLarue

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Looking back I am so glad I never had a student like Johnny. I know each kid has their strengths and needs but OMG. We're talking about reducing debt, teachers cooperating with governments and the part we disagree on cutting taxes. Give me some proof that backs up your claim that Average Canadian families are in hardship. And your answer is the G7 and unemployment... well fortunately in Canada families that have been unemployed have been supported nicely by the government. So Johnny how did you do???

It is not my fault you can not keep up
economics is another level of difficulty above finger painting and puppet shows

Give me some proof that backs up your claim that Average Canadian families are in hardship.
How many times does it need to be spelled out for you?
The tax burden is in excess of the necessities of life and the consumer debt debt burden is
unsustainable
That is hardship by any standard

do you not think unemployment is a hardship for families?
The G7 is a reference to show how high the unemployment is

Are you
really that slow ?

well fortunately in Canada families that have been unemployed have been supported nicely by the government.
and how long will that last?
You want your greed to be funded in
perpetuity
What part of a tsunami of bankruptcies do you not understand?
 

JohnLarue

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So summarized in Johnny's terms. If you make more then me you're greedy.
I never said that
What make you greedy has nothing to do with my income
What makes you greedy is a lack of ethics

Elementary student make for better negotiating pawns, vs high school students, it screws the parents around more when we use the elementary students as pawns
We only screw the kids around once every four years
The battle with the unions will never end
Screw you, I demand my raise
We're in a pandemic no other country will feel the pain like Canada will. Canada has had the highest standard of living but we're f.....ked, we're all f.....ked!!!
It is a fact we have one million more unemployed than before the pandemic
It is also a fact our unemployment rate is the highest in the G7

So yes Canada is feeling the pain more than other countries (ie the G7)
And our standard of living will be negatively impacted

Get it now????
Your a teacher and you need to have simple economic facts spelled out for you?
 

squeezer

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Johnny, how do you feel about what Donald Trump has done to the Average American family who spends more on taxes than essentials? Donald enjoys the same lifestyle as Sammy (I still want to borrow the yacht) and yet you seem to give him a pass. Do you know what Donald has been paying in Federal taxes over the years? Do you know how much less he has been paying than the AVERAGE AMERICAN FAMILY???

Now before you start ranting how you do not live in the US, I've been told on the slide you are considering moving there because Americans pay less on their tax bill to the public school system.
 

SammyS

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You should be sorry, as once again you get it wrong

Again I made no comment about my taxes, one way or another. You continue to be fixated on my taxes and ignoring the real issue
The tax burden on the average Canadian Family are unsustainable as is the debt burden on the average family.

^^^^And where is the proof of this claim. Fraser institute... LOL Pierre Poilievre... even funnier. You have absolutely no proof that the tax burden on the average Canadian Family is unsustainable. Nothing.... you provide an article about Canadian having the highest unemployment rate of G7 countries??? Let me guess... when you were younger you wanted to be a space cadet because you're still flying in space!!!

These are facts independent of me .
^^^^What facts??? Where are there??? Let me text Pierre and see what he says???

Argue they are not or stop fixating on my taxes

$7,000 in annual taxation over and above the spending on food, clothing and shelter should be re-directed towards paying down unsustainable consumer debt
^^^^So what??? That proves absolutely nothing. Yes they are move but the social assistance, education and health care is near the top when you compare us to the rest of the world. What don't you understand about this concept???
The level of government debt was also unsustainable
Government spending is unsustainable
The unions are the primary govt expense

^^^^^No really Johnny... did you come up with that all by yourself!!! What a good my you are!!!

Actual no my arguments are FACTUAL based
The Tax burden is a FACT
^^^^^No proof
The consumer debt burden is a FACT
^^^^^No proof
The level of government debt is a FACT
The unsustainability is a FACT
^^^^^No proof

your fixation on my taxes is what makes zero sense
You want to use cancel culture Bullshit because you want to ignore these FACTS and you lack the ability to form any rational factual argument.

Johnny's Lalaland... low debt and even lower taxes... as you can see their health care sucks and definitely not the smartest individuals but as long as Johnny is happy... they're all happy!!!
 

SammyS

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not good is right
telling a Canadian to leave his country is almost as
despicable as using children as negotiating pawns

Johnny still stuck on using students as pawns. If you were here right now we would all give you a big hug to try to cheer you up!!!
 

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It is not my fault you can not keep up
economics is another level of difficulty above finger painting and puppet shows
How many times does it need to be spelled out for you?
The tax burden is in excess of the necessities of life and the consumer debt debt burden is
unsustainable
That is hardship by any standard

^^^^Then show us the evidence to support your claim. Just posting what Canadians pay is fruit less it doesn't prove taxes are too much, that taxes are a burden and they are unsustainable. You have absolutely nothing, zero

do you not think unemployment is a hardship for families?
The G7 is a reference to show how high the unemployment is

^^^^ Is unemployment related to debt??? NO

^^^^Is unemployment related to high taxes??? NO

^^^^Is unemployment related to teachers pay or benefits??? NO

Johnny unemployment is high because of the pandemic. What part of that do you now understanding??? WOW!!!

Now do you see why I use finger puppets to communicate with you?

and how long will that last?
^^^^Your stupidity... probably for a while... I recommend a tutor for you Johnny.

What part of a tsunami of bankruptcies that could happen do you not understand?

^^^^^Again your supporting documentation is weak
 

SammyS

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I never said that
What make you greedy has nothing to do with my income
What makes you greedy is a lack of ethics

So I'm greedy, I've the one that suggested ways to approach teachers but when I said tax cuts would have to come off the table you went a little...


It is a fact we have one million more unemployed than before the pandemic
It is also a fact our unemployment rate is the highest in the G7
^^^^LOL... great work Johnny they are facts... thanks for sharing them with the TERB community!!!

So yes Canada is feeling the pain more than other countries (ie the G7)
And our standard of living will be negatively impacted
^^^^Why??? The government stepped in and filled that gap. Thank god Canadians didn't have to go through what so many Americans went through and are still going through. The Canadian government is taking a hit but how does that impact our standard of living?

^^^^Yep there's nothing there with Johnny.


Get it now????

^^^^OMG this is definitely Johnny!!!
Your a teacher and you need to have simple economic facts spelled out for you?
^^^^My suggestion Johnny, stop getting all your information from the Toronto Sun... it's not helping you!!!
 

SammyS

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Johnny, how do you feel about what Donald Trump has done to the Average American family who spends more on taxes than essentials? Donald enjoys the same lifestyle as Sammy (I still want to borrow the yacht) and yet you seem to give him a pass. Do you know what Donald has been paying in Federal taxes over the years? Do you know how much less he has been paying than the AVERAGE AMERICAN FAMILY???

Now before you start ranting how you do not live in the US, I've been told on the slide you are considering moving there because Americans pay less on their tax bill to the public school system.
^^^^Sorry squeezer... now that I'm back to work the yacht is free. Just don't do what you did with it last time and go down to the caribbean and not bring me back anything!!!
 

JohnLarue

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Johnny, how do you feel about what Donald Trump has done to the Average American family who spends more on taxes than essentials? Donald enjoys the same lifestyle as Sammy (I still want to borrow the yacht) and yet you seem to give him a pass. Do you know what Donald has been paying in Federal taxes over the years? Do you know how much less he has been paying than the AVERAGE AMERICAN FAMILY???
Whatever gave you the strange notion that I am a Donald Trump fan?
Oh yes. You assumed and you assumed wrong

He is a mean spirited vindictive man ill-suited for the position
His entire philosophy is based upon applying leverage and he singularly focused on what is best for him as opposed to what is best for all vested parties
i.e. a carbon copy of the union play book

odd how you dispise the man yet support this behavior in a union?

I agree with some of his policies, defiantly not all of them, however the bottom line is he is not the right man for the job

if he cheated on his taxes, I hope he goes to jail
The American electorate will decide his status as POTUS in November


Now before you start ranting how you do not live in the US, I've been told on the slide you are considering moving there because Americans pay less on their tax bill to the public school system.
You have been told on the side ?
Really ???? who is this mysterious person feeding you incorrect information about what I am thinking?
Perhaps you can find out what I will have for lunch tomorrow. I have not figured that out yet, but your guy apparently knows what I am thinking, better than I do

Now slither away again
 
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JohnLarue

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So I'm greedy, I've the one that suggested ways to approach teachers but when I said tax cuts would have to come off the table you went a little...
tax policy is not for unions to determine
do you have any idea how messed up it is to have taxation determined without representation?
As I recall that started a civil war


approach teachers ???????
what is required is a change in attitude by teachers

this is despicable and unacceptable
Elementary student make for better negotiating pawns, vs high school students, it screws the parents around more when we use the elementary students as pawns
We only screw the kids around once every four years
The battle with the unions will never end
Screw you, I demand my raise
 

JohnLarue

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Johnny still stuck on using students as pawns. If you were here right now we would all give you a big hug to try to cheer you up!!!
You still do not understand how despicable this is, despite supposedly being an adult
Unbelievable
 

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^^^Why??? The government stepped in and filled that gap. Thank god Canadians didn't have to go through what so many Americans went through and are still going through. The Canadian government is taking a hit but how does that impact our standard of living?
Are you so stunned you think the government can continue doing filling the GAP forever?
What a dope
 

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Whatever gave you the strange notion that I am a Donald Trump fan?
^^^^You both share numerous character traits:
1. Narcissistic - inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others
2. Self serving - don't care about the kids, education not a concern, cut, cut, cut

3. Distrusting/suspicious and Erratic

He is a mean spirited vindictive man ill-suited for the position odd how you dispose the man yet support this behavior in a union?

^^^^^Sound or I guess I should say look familiar???

I agree with his policies
^^^^Wow!!!

You have been told on the side ?
Really ???? who is this mysterious person feeding you incorrect information about what I am thinking?
^^^^We see your responses and we get a pretty good idea who you are as a person... just saying!!!

Now slither away again

^^^^Now I see why you say that all the time... makes SSSSSSense!!!
 

SammyS

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tax policy is not for unions to determine
do you have any idea how messed up it is to have taxation determined without representation?
As I recall that started a civil war
^^^^^What the f....k are you talking about???

approach teachers ???????
what is required is a change in attitude by teachers
^^^^^And again your thinking that the union is going to change their attitude and ways is absolutely ludicrous. Another examples of a dumb ass statement that Trump makes daily and yes you seem to be following your buddies lead.
 

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You still do not understand how despicable this is, despite supposedly being an adult
Unbelievable
^^^^And this is another example of your narcissistic behavior... if you asked 1000 people do teachers use students as pawns? The result would be the same as Trump saying the U.S. has turned the corner with Covid 19... LOL
 
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Are you so stunned you think the government can continue doing filling the GAP forever?
What a dope
So what you're implying is that Covid will always be around us and we will never find a vaccine???
CERB was only used because Canadians were faced with this pandemic and a lot of jobs were lost? Is this going to continue forever??? Are the jobs never coming back??? Johnny do you realize how stupid some of your questions are??? Who does this remind us of?
 
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JohnLarue

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^^^^^What the f....k are you talking about???
tax policy is not for unions to determine
do you have any idea how messed up it is to have taxation determined without representation?
As I recall that started a civil war

what dont you understand ?
1. unions do not get to determine tax policy- That should be pretty easy to follow
2. do you have any idea how messed up it is to have taxation determined without representation?- This should be easy to follow- Only elected representatives are able to determine tax policy. Unions reps are not elected by those your want to tax
In a democracy you need to have the ability to remove form office via the vote those who are determining tax policy. We do not have the option to vote the unions away
Therefore unions do not determine tax policy, so you do not get to say tax cuts are off the table

3. As I recall that started a civil war - The American revolution was started because Britain wanted to tax Americans without allowing them to be represented in the tax discussion

Ok we will just add history to the ever growing list of subjects you do not understand.
You are teacher- correct?
You did fake your way through a 3 year BA and a year of clown college - correct?
You did pass high school- correct?
 
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JohnLarue

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So what you're implying is that Covid will always be around us and we will never find a vaccine???
CERB was only used because Canadians were faced with this pandemic and a lot of jobs were lost? Is this going to continue forever??? Are the jobs never coming back??? Johnny do you realize how stupid some of your questions are??? Who does this remind us of?

Do you realize how stupid your statements are?

^Why??? The government stepped in and filled that gap.
And thus you think the economic problems related to the pandemic and the pre-existing unsustainable tax and debt burdens go away ??????

It is not going to work that way .... at all
The government will not be able to keep funding the one million people who have lost their jobs , let alone the ones who will lose their jobs in 2021
A vaccine is a minimum one year away, likely three years for world wide distribution, if and this is a huge if, they discover the vaccine tomorrow

Is this going to continue forever???
There is no
guarantee a vaccine will be found. We can hope, but no guarantee
What I can guarantee is the government can not step in and fill that gap forever

Are the jobs never coming back???
a lot of them will not be coming back

60% of
restaurants are predicted to close by November
There will be airline failures for sure
brick and morter retailers are screwed
Commercial real estate - levered up big time
Hotels?? - good luck
The federal government has been working real hard to shut down our oil and gas sector- no new investments will go into that sector as long as Trudeau is PM
Same for the mining industry (ex gold)
His carbon tax also wounded farmers - getting farm labor has also become a problem
You had better pray the food industry stays healthy

Now think about all the business and employees that support the above industries- they will get screwed too
also when bankruptcies increase credit gets tightened

So to answer your dumb ass question- No, a lot of jobs are not coming back
So we are going to have negative economic growth for some time
The job losses in 2021 could be much worse than in 2020- a lot of business have been hanging on by their finger tips
So standards of living will go down in Canada as will government revenues

So we simply can not afford to continue to compensate you excessively
we could not afford it before . 15-16 straight years of provincial deficits and excessive tax and debt burdens on the average family
Now???? forget it

Get it now?
 
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