Teachers Union Sabotaging Education

[JohnLarue]

^^^^^I know Boomber.... it's a bit hard to understand but teachers are caring people... fighting for the best education for students. Boomber this one's for you...

You caring?

I do not give shit about the employer

Screw you, I demand my raise

Elementary student make for better negotiating pawns, vs high school students, it screws the parents around more when we use the elementary students as pawns

I choose the profession for the perks

The battle with the unions will never end

I want the best for my kids and prefer private schooling for them

I have two homes , a cottage and my retirement is taken care off, What's your success story

We only screw the kids around once every four years

You have made it crystal clear what you really care about

 

[JohnLarue]

And still you think that you can do both at the same time. the more you talk, the more clear it is that your fiscal policy revolves completely around what benefits you the most.

And once again you misrepresent me and and once again you get it wrong. Do you not tire of being wrong ALL THE TIME?

I never mention timing or priority. You did

the more you talk, the more clear it is that your position is to ignore the problems and instead focus on trying to cancel the messenger.
A low brow tactic used by those who are too lazy or lack the intelligence to provide a rational well thought out response


Both are debt burden and tax burden are two issues which need to be addressed
Both are problems independent of me
Neither can be addressed without public sector union co-operation but sadly they are

 

[JohnLarue]

^^^^^And in these situations we explain to the students that teachers are fighting the changes that have been made to the system which we know will adversely affect students, we're fighting for them. We explain to students that sometimes teachers have to make difficult decisions when forced to choose between the "easy" option and the "right" option. We constantly remind students there's a big difference between standing up for what you know is right, and being stubborn, arrogant or uncooperative like Johnny. The character trait we focus on during work to rule or strike action is perseverance.

So in addition to screwing them over and using them as negotiating pawns, you lie to their faces and tell them the strike, work to rule actions are for their benefit???

Your self serving rhetoric does not align with some of your previous statements

Elementary student make for better negotiating pawns, vs high school students, it screws the parents around more when we use the elementary students as pawns

We only screw the kids around once every four years

The battle with the unions will never end

Screw you, I demand my raise

You are a beyond despicable


The sooner we move to private schooling, home schooling, and/ or online education the better

 

[basketcase]

And once again you misrepresent me and and once again you get it wrong. Do you not tire of being wrong ALL THE TIME?

Misrepresent you by repeating your views?

Do you deny that you want the debt reduced while also wanting your taxes cut?

 

[JohnLarue]

Misrepresent you by repeating your views?

Do you deny that you want the debt reduced while also wanting your taxes cut?

I have made absolute zero comments about my taxes in this thread, so your fixation on my taxes is down to YOUR VIEWS and a misrepresentation of my views

I have been very consistent expressing the need for relief from unsustainable tax burden and unsustainable consumer debt on the average Canadian Family ( BTW lowering the tax burden would enable the average Canadian Family to reduce their debt burden)
The government federal, provincial and municipal debt is also unsustainable. Ask the rating agencies if you do not believe me


Do you deny these problems will still exist independent of me?
Do you deny having this FACT explained to you at least 10-15 times?
Yet you ignore these FACTS and are fixated on my tax bill. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?

Oh yes , you want to make this about me , so you can engage in your petty and childish cancel culture thus allowing you to ignore the problems.
A low brow tactic used by those who are too lazy or lack the intelligence to provide a rational well thought out response
Ignoring problems is what children do, hoping the problems will just go away


Do you deny ignoring the impact of an unsustainable tax burden and unsustainable consumer debt on the average Canadian Family?
Do you deny ignoring the economic disaster our country will face if the average Canadian Family becomes insolvent

Do you deny unconditional support for unions simply because of blind unwavering allegiance to your very misguided ideology ?
(BTW, I have voted liberal on occasion in the past, .....before they embraced socialism)
Do you deny ignoring the cold hard facts which have been presented to you?

It looks like we have a denier

 

[SammyS]

Reducing debt and tax cuts are are required as both the debt burden and tax burden are unsustainable.
These problems are independent of me

^^^^^The debt burden I get but you have absolutely no evidence that tax burden is "unsustainable". Put your money where your mouth is and if you can't put up... then shut up!!! You go on and on and on about tax cuts but the Quality of Life for Canadians is the best in the world... does that make sense???

If parents saw your true colors they would put a huge distance between you & their kids
^^^^^

Too funny!
^^^^^I've been told I have a good sense of humor!!!

All you have accomplished is display how ignorant and self absorbed you are
Your simple minded greed will result in the following action
^^^^And again Johnny bitches about all the benefits that teachers have besides working with students and parents. Johnny it's never too late to change your career become a teacher and have a positive impact on students' lives!!!

^^^^^It looks like you have a interest in science... maybe a science teacher???

 

[SammyS]

You caring?
You have made it crystal clear what you really care about

^^^^Johnny's message to Sammy. And I understand why you feel that way. I'm a great role model for you and for all the students I work with. Through hard work and determination I've been financially successful and even though I have to inspire and motivate my colleagues we stand up to the government when they try to cut back money from the education system because Ontario has one of the best!!!

 

[SammyS]

Misrepresent you by repeating your views?

Do you deny that you want the debt reduced while also wanting your taxes cut?

Johnny... Boomber might get upset you seem to get this a lot more then him!!!

 

[SammyS]

I have made absolute zero comments about my taxes in this thread, so your fixation on my taxes is down to YOUR VIEWS and a misrepresentation of my views
^^^^But I understand why he thinks this because you go on and on and on.

I have been very consistent expressing the need for relief from unsustainable tax burden and unsustainable consumer debt on the average Canadian Family ( BTW lowering the tax burden would enable the average Canadian Family to reduce their debt burden)
The government federal, provincial and municipal debt is also unsustainable. Ask the rating agencies if you do not believe me

"unsustainable consumer debt"... where is the proof that shows that the Average Canadian Family is crumbling??? During the Covid crisis consumer debt has actually gone down so maybe some families need to do a better job of budgeting!!!

Do you deny these problems will still exist independent of me?
Do you deny having this FACT explained to you at least 10-15 times?
Yet you ignore these FACTS and are fixated on my tax bill. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
^^^^basketcase, like most Canadians realizes we pay taxes because our social benefits are way better then the Americans. Unfortunately you don't seem to understand this concept

Oh yes , you want to make this about me , so you can engage in your petty and childish cancel culture thus allowing you to ignore the problems.
A low brow tactic used by those who are too lazy or lack the intelligence to provide a rational well thought out response
Ignoring problems is what children do, hoping the problems will just go away

^^^^Rational well thought out response"... LOL is that suppose to be you???
If the government's (like the Liberals did under Chrétien) focus was on reducing the debt then more people would agree but reduce the debt and cut taxes at the same time... not going to happen. Let me know when you get a "rational well thought out response" ready to share with us... LOL!!!


Do you deny ignoring the impact of an unsustainable tax burden and unsustainable consumer debt on the average Canadian Family?

^^^^Still waiting to see this information to back up your devastating disaster??? In the mean time... Canadians Quality of Life is #1 in the World!!!

Do you deny ignoring the economic disaster our country will face if the average Canadian Family becomes insolvent

^^^^LOL Johnny must get tired... always trying to mop up his mess of tax cuts but also reduce the debt!!!

Do you deny unconditional support for unions simply because of blind unwavering allegiance to your very misguided ideology ?
(BTW, I have voted liberal on occasion in the past, .....before they embraced socialism)
Do you deny ignoring the cold hard facts which have been presented to you?
^^^^Johnny do you deny we have one of the best Education Systems in the World and its because we have unions???

It looks like we have a denier

^^^^^Guys I know it's frustrating trying to communicate with Johnny but eventually his game will improve and we'll knock some sense into him. Not cents Johnny but common sense!!!

 

[JohnLarue]

^^^^Johnny's message to Sammy. And I understand why you feel that way. I'm a great role model for you and for all the students I work with. Through hard work and determination I've been financially successful and even though I have to inspire and motivate my colleagues we stand up to the government when they try to cut back money from the education system because Ontario has one of the best!!!

You are not a great role model
In fact the more you post the more it becomes clear you should have absolutely no involvement with students

Elementary student make for better negotiating pawns, vs high school students, it screws the parents around more when we use the elementary students as pawns
We only screw the kids around once every four years
The battle with the unions will never end
Screw you, I demand my raise

Your motivation is also clear. It is pure and simple greed

 

[SammyS]

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/quality-of-life-rankings

"People consistently view a small group of nations as best providing for their citizens. For the fifth consecutive year, Canada ranks No. 1 overall for providing a good quality of life. Survey respondents view the North American country as No. 1 for being politically stable,
No. 4 for having a well-developed public education system
No. 4 for having a well-developed public education system
No. 4 for having a well-developed public education system
No. 4 for having a well-developed public education system
, and No. 2 for having a good job market, a perception supported by independent research. The North American country is seen as possessing the most well-developed public health care system. In fact, Canada is rated in the top 10 in all but one of the nine attributes, affordability, where Asian countries dominate."

Johnny... you know what's coming!!!

^^^^Johnny... this is the only cut you'll be getting!!!

^^^^^Yes the one on the left is Johnny!!!

 

[JohnLarue]

The debt burden I get but you have absolutely no evidence that tax burden is "unsustainable". Put your money where your mouth is and if you can't put up... then shut up!!! You go on and on and on about tax cuts but the Quality of Life for Canadians is the best in the world... does that make sense???

1. The average Canadian family spend more on taxes than food, clothing and shelter combined. That is as wrong as wrong gets
2. The consumer debt of the average Canadian family is unsustainable.
3. If the tax burden on the average Canadian family was equated to the cost of food, clothing and shelter , their tax bill would be $7,000 less per year and then they could address their unsustainable debt burden

the Quality of Life for Canadians is the best in the world

look
The consumer debt of the average Canadian family is unsustainable.
Quality of life is defiantly impacted by bankruptcy
Therefore the quality of life rating is unsustainable

Are you really incapable of understanding a single word "unsustainable" ?

Here are some additional facts for you

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/consumer-debt-statscan-1.5720402

Canadians are paying down debt during COVID-19 — but a 'tsunami' of bankruptcies could be coming

• Canadian households owed $1.58 for every dollar they had to spend as of the end of June. That ratio peaked at 177 per cent in 2017 and has held steady in the 170 range up until the sudden drop this year.
• roughly one out of every six Canadian homeowners with a mortgage applied for programs that banks offered to defer all or part of payments for up to six months this spring. But those programs are slated to end in the coming weeks, and those bills have to be paid.
• "They've taken advantage of deferrals and benefits [but] that ride is gonna end."
• All told, Canadians owed $2.3 trillion at the end of June, which consists of $1.5 trillion worth of mortgages, and $779.4 billion worth of consumer debt such as credit cards.
• "The Statscan numbers show the debt picture is uneven across different income groups. The lowest 20 per cent had a debt to income ratio of 281.7 per cent at the end of 2019, meaning they owed almost $3 for every dollar they had on hand to spend. Those in the top 20 per cent, meanwhile, owed just $1.38 for every dollar of disposable income they had.
• Delinquencies and consumer insolvencies will likely begin to rise at the end of this year and into 2021."

In addition there are one million Canadian who lost their job because of the pandemic , who have not returned to work

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• “A lot of the jobs we lost during the lockdown do not appear to be coming back. We have the highest unemployment now in the G7,” he said.
  [*]In August, Canada’s unemployment rate hit 10.2 per cent, compared to 5.9 per cent in August 2019 and the OECD country average of 7.7 per cent.
  [*]

You did not specify the date/source for your "the Quality of Life for Canadians is the best in the world." but that metric is going to change and abruptly
So you can forget about using it to try and justify your continue extortion of the taxpayer

Put your money where your mouth is and if you can't put up... then shut up!!!

You are far too ignorant of the realities of the world and grossly mis-informed, you should not tell anyone to shut up
How ironic is it that a grossly overcompensated teacher needs to be taught so much
Try spending less of your time on puppet shows and learn something about the world outside of your union protected bubble

 

[JohnLarue]

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/quality-of-life-rankings

"People consistently view a small group of nations as best providing for their citizens. For the fifth consecutive year, Canada ranks No. 1 overall for providing a good quality of life. Survey respondents view the North American country as No. 1 for being politically stable,
No. 4 for having a well-developed public education system
No. 4 for having a well-developed public education system
No. 4 for having a well-developed public education system
No. 4 for having a well-developed public education system
, and No. 2 for having a good job market, a perception supported by independent research. The North American country is seen as possessing the most well-developed public health care system. In fact, Canada is rated in the top 10 in all but one of the nine attributes, affordability, where Asian countries dominate."

Johnny... you know what's coming!!!

See post 1,154 to see what is coming
You are soooooo mis-informed and ignorant of the realities

 

[JohnLarue]

And again Johnny bitches about all the benefits that teachers have besides working with students and parents. Johnny it's never too late to change your career become a teacher and have a positive impact on students' lives!!!

And again. I will tell you I could never work in a union environment. I would bust into flames upon signing the union card

I would never, ever lower myself to using children as negotiating pawns.

You claim to be a positive impact on students lives but your past statements say the opposite

Elementary student make for better negotiating pawns, vs high school students, it screws the parents around more when we use the elementary students as pawns
We only screw the kids around once every four years
The battle with the unions will never end
Screw you, I demand my raise

We need to do this with your union

 

[SammyS]

1. The average Canadian family spend more on taxes than food, clothing and shelter combined. That is as wrong as wrong gets

^^^^Then go live somewhere else if you can't handle it.
2. The consumer debt of the average Canadian family is unsustainable.

^^^^Where is the proof??? You talk the talk but don't walk the walk.
3. If the tax burden on the average Canadian family was equated to the cost of food, clothing and shelter , their tax bill would be $7,000 less per year and then they could address their unsustainable debt burden

^^^^The U.S. had lower taxes... the U.S. doesn't have free health care... the U.S doesn't have the same social support that we have in Canada, the U.S. doesn't have the same quality of education we have in Canada. Where is all the social unrest right now???

look
The consumer debt of the average Canadian family is unsustainable.

^^^^Johnny the debt and tax cut economist has spoken... we should follow his people.
Quality of life is defiantly impacted by bankruptcy
Therefore the quality of life rating is unsustainable

^^^^This is Canada... it's "unsustainable"... good bye everyone!!!
"For the fifth consecutive year, Canada ranks No. 1 overall for providing a good quality of life."
Wow... 5 years in a row but it is unsustainable... LOL

Are you really incapable of understanding a single word "unsustainable" ?

^^^^People... can you feel it... the debt is about to entrap us!!!

Here are some additional facts for you

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/consumer-debt-statscan-1.5720402

^^^ Canadians are paying down debt during COVID-19 — but bankruptcies could be coming

^^^^Maybe you need to get better data!!!

In addition there are one million Canadian who lost their job because of the pandemic , who have not returned to work

Error

^^^^ " Conservative finance critic Pierre Poilievre " OMFG you are using Pierre Poilievre as your source. If I was marking the quality of your research skills you would have failed miserably... LOL

You did not specify the date/source for your "the Quality of Life for Canadians is the best in the world." but that metric is going to change and abruptly So you can forget about using it to try and justify your continue extortion of the taxpayer

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/quality-of-life-rankings

The 2020 Best Countries rankings, formed in partnership with BAV Group, a unit of global marketing communications company VMLY&R, and the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, are based on a study that surveyed more than 20,000 global citizens from four regions to assess perceptions of 73 countries on 75 different metrics.

^^^^Canadians we have some terrible news! Covid is only happening in Canada... no other country is experiencing what we are going through. And your quality of life is going to be flushed down the toilet.


You are far too ignorant of the realities of the world and grossly mis-informed, you should not tell anyone to shut up
How ironic is it that a grossly overcompensated teacher needs to be taught so much
Try spending less of your time on puppet shows and learn something about the world outside of your union protected bubble

^^^^^Sorry I'm in my protected bubble, on the beach, with my girls... get back to you later Johnny.

 

[SammyS]

See post 1,154 to see what is coming

^^^^^See post #1157... too busy to reply to you right now!!!

You are soooooo mis-informed and ignorant of the realities

^^^^LOL... I'm so misinformed but his source is Pierre Poilievre... WOW!!!

 

[JohnLarue]

^^^^^See post #1157... too busy to reply to you right now!!!

You are soooooo mis-informed and ignorant of the realities

^^^^LOL... I'm so misinformed but his source is Pierre Poilievre... WOW!!!

Pierre Poliiever quotes 2 FACTS and you want to cancel those facts because you do not like Mr. Poliiever??
WOW!
Are you so stunned you think your cancel culture bullshit can erase facts?

We have the highest unemployment now in the G7,” he said.
In August, Canada’s unemployment rate hit 10.2 per cent, compared to 5.9 per cent in August 2019 and the OECD country average of 7.7 per cent.

Prove these FACTS are incorrect or admit your cancel culture bullshit is what it is, useless bullshit

 

[SammyS]

And again. I will tell you I could never work in a union environment. I would bust into flames upon signing the union card

^^^^Well at least there is some reality in your life!!!

I would never, ever lower myself to using children as negotiating pawns.

^^^^^I'm guessing you don't go to the gym... you seem do a lot of this.

You claim to be a positive impact on students lives but your past statements say the opposite
^^^^Johnny inferences are steps in reasoning, moving from premises to logical consequences; etymologically, the word infer means to "carry forward". Inference is theoretically traditionally divided into deduction and induction. We do inferencing in Grade 2 Johnny... should I post some worksheets for you??? WOW!!!

^^^^^The doctor is removing this sucker from the Canadian economy. All Johnny is looking for is tax cuts!!!

 

[JohnLarue]

The average Canadian family spend more on taxes than food, clothing and shelter combined. That is as wrong as wrong gets


^^^^Then go live somewhere else if you can't handle it.

Another quote by Sammy's showing he does not give a shit about anyone but himself
DO NOT EVER TELL SOMEONE TO GO LIVE ELSEWHERE for questioning your ethics

. The consumer debt of the average Canadian family is unsustainable.

^^^^Where is the proof??? You talk the talk but don't walk the walk

This has been explained to you in detail
What part of a 'tsunami' of bankruptcies could be coming do you not understand?

"For the fifth consecutive year, Canada ranks No. 1 overall for providing a good quality of life."
Wow... 5 years in a row but it is unsustainable... LOL

LOL?
You are too stunned to see what is coming despite what the Bank of Canada says
And you are educating our kids ??
God help them

^^^^Canadians we have some terrible news! Covid is only happening in Canada... no other country is experiencing what we are going through. And your quality of life is going to be flushed down the toilet.

the same misfortune in Europe or even the US will not make bankruptcies and a LOWER QUALITY OF LFE any better for Canadians
What a fool

 

[JohnLarue]

^^^Well at least there is some reality in your life!!!

Too bad you live in a union protected bubble, otherwise you might understand the damage your unions are doing

^^^^^The doctor is removing this sucker from the Canadian economy.

That cant be true, your union remains embedded and is still sucking all the $ it can

All Johnny is looking for is tax cuts!!!

As wrong as everything else you state
I want the tax burden and debt burden for the average Canadian Family's reduced
I want the governments to control their spending
I want some co-operation from the public sector unions

SammyS does not give as shit about anyone but SammyS

Elementary student make for better negotiating pawns, vs high school students, it screws the parents around more when we use the elementary students as pawns
We only screw the kids around once every four years
The battle with the unions will never end
Screw you, I demand my raise