End the Lockdown

[canada-man]

many people may not have a family doctor after thi


Thousands of doctors may be forced to close their clinics amid the COVID-19 pandemic because they just can’t pay the bills. Erica Natividad on the effect this will have on patients and why the Ontario Medical Association is pushing for more support.


https://www.680news.com/video/2020/...86GT9yAPkykS5LiFJ6QKyBkCbyAawn0ij9zxwtZlc07K0

 

[apoptygma]

And there is no evidence UV from a tanning bed is going to go into the body and kill the virus that is attacking the lungs. UV from beds can cause skin cancer over time but doesn't reach internal cells beyond the skin is my understanding.

The UV-C? that is used is to disinfect ROOMS not bodies. In one news report they showed how it was used with the door to the room barred with huge warning posters DO NOT ENTER? While it would kill the virus on a surface in the room it will kill a human if they entered.

But canada-man wants to shove a UV-C light bulb up his ass.

 

[doggystyle99]

And how are these not bias towards a negative narrative? It's all open for interpretation at this point.

Using data and facts to write an article is not propoganda, the videos and the articles that are claiming "Sweden success" are propoganda since they provide false facts to support their opinions.
It doesn't matter if they are a negative article to your views they are truthful which is all that matters.

 

[doggystyle99]

If we want to save every single life possible, we should shut down for 2 years and reduce the speed limits to 10km/hr.

And if hundreds of millions starve to death and die from other poverty maladies, at least they didn`t get Covid-19, or die in a horrific car crash.

That is not a fair analysis since no one is suggesting waiting until there is no flu. But below I think its 10% of the population based on wide testing, a 14 day downward curve of new infections to a certain level and contact tracing for those new infections.

Dave Phoenix I have not seen a single person post on here that we need to shut down for 2 years. People like the poster above keep making the assumptions that are furthest from reality they can make in an effort to promote the idea of opening businesses up ASAP, and have been running around promoting the "Sweden success" propoganda meanwhile all evidence proves so far they haven't been as successful as their immediate neighbours Denmark and Norway.
You are 100% right about the 14 day downward curve and I've posted this numerous times, unfortunately some people still haven't understood or willfully ignoring that most important fact (asymptomatic carriers) revolving around the Coronavirus.

 

[Darts]

It looks like the Toronto new infection rate has plateaued at round 400-600 but it is is not declining. Also, it is taking its toll on health care workers due to infections, MIA (fear), burnouts, etc.

 

[doggystyle99]

It looks like the Toronto new infection rate has plateaued at round 400-600 but it is is not declining. Also, it is taking its toll on health care workers due to infections, MIA (fear), burnouts, etc.

We have to use a 14 day timeline with a downward trend if we are going to be curbing the spread of the Coronavirus.
We certainly can not use just the numbers in Toronto as evidence to open businesses back up.

 

[Malibuk]

It looks like the Toronto new infection rate has plateaued at round 400-600 but it is is not declining. Also, it is taking its toll on health care workers due to infections, MIA (fear), burnouts, etc.

They are focusing the testing on those most likely to be sick, of which there will be no shortage any time soon.
They need to do broad diverse randomized testing.

It is like trying to see if the Tories are making up any ground on the Liberals but you only conduct polls in Liberal dominated ridings.

 

[lenny2]

If we want to save every single life possible, we should shut down for 2 years and reduce the speed limits to 10km/hr.

And if hundreds of millions starve to death and die from other poverty maladies, at least they didn`t get Covid-19, or die in a horrific car crash.

Evidently "we" don't, as evidenced by the pre C-19 world & the fact that a few people are still driving on the roads. It's sad & a pity. Though a lot of other things have been done to try to reduce road fatalities. And starvation, etc. Personally, i choose not to get in road "death traps", but if others want to risk their lives, that's their choice. Evidently flying is much safer. Instead of cars, most people could ride in safer buses, trains, etc, & vehicles driven by pros (e.g. taxis).

 

[Valcazar]

Even the White House's vague "guidelines" on opening include 14-day declines as part of the criteria.

 

[bebe]

It looks like the Toronto new infection rate has plateaued at round 400-600 but it is is not declining. Also, it is taking its toll on health care workers due to infections, MIA (fear), burnouts, etc.

You have to keep in mind that the Government just started to increase testing in all LTCH's so the infection rate will increase.

The number of tests being carried out in the LTCH's should be presented in one table and the balance of the population should be presented in a second table. The second table is the critical one to follow to see if the number of cases is trending downwards.

 

[basketcase]

flu 2020 censorship

TECH TYRANNY: Twitter Suspends Account and YouTube Removes Video of Biotech Company that Created COVID-19 Treatment Using UV Light in Lungs...

Snake oil. Otherwise known as fraud.

 

[Dave in Phoenix]

I believe the downward curve requirement is in new hospitalizations. Using new infections would not make sense since as do more testing will find many more folks that had no symptoms but had the virus. Likewise, death is not a good indicator since death as usually many weeks after being admitted.

 

[canada-man]

part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb6j7o1pLBw

 

[J.A. Prufrock]

But canada-man wants to shove a UV-C light bulb up his ass.

Just make sure it's UL approved.

 

[Smallcock]

We have to use a 14 day timeline with a downward trend if we are going to be curbing the spread of the Coronavirus.
We certainly can not use just the numbers in Toronto as evidence to open businesses back up.

End the panic and isolation: https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...ta-is-in-stop-the-panic-and-end-the-isolation

Curbing the spread? That’s undesirable. Allow it to spread far and wide, like it already is with no realistic way of stopping it without continuous draconian measures. You can however stop it from infecting small specific groups that are most vulnerable.

 

[canada-man]

who really benefits from this unconstitutional lockdowns?



The new coronavirus pandemic has triggered a spike in prescriptions for depression, anxiety and insomnia in a looming mental health pandemic that could explode in America if steps aren’t taken to prevent it, one of the world’s leading psychiatrists on mood disorders has warned.

Dr. Roger McIntyre, who is currently a professor of psychiatry and pharmacology at the University of Toronto and head of the Mood Disorders Psychopharmacology Unit at the University Health Network in Toronto, told The Christian Post in a recent interview that the deadly coronavirus — which has already killed more than 47,000 people nationwide and infected close to 900,000 — is already taking its toll on Americans mentally.

“This is the greatest threat on our mental health in our lifetime. A combustible mix of fear, insecurity and quarantine,” he said. ”We’re very concerned about an increase in suicide, depression, stress and alcoholism [but] with the appropriate social, medical and individual response we can prevent the [mental health] curve.”

In their latest report on the use of medications to treat three of the most common mental health conditions — depression, anxiety and insomnia — Express Scripts, America’s largest pharmacy benefit management organization, showed how the coronavirus has already been impacting America’s mental health.

https://www.christianpost.com/news/...-as-expert-warns-of-mental-health-crisis.html

 

[squeezer]

part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb6j7o1pLBw

These two quacks own 7 clinics that have been struggling or shut down by the pandemic. It's all motivated by their greed!

 

[doggystyle99]

These two quacks own 7 clinics that have been struggling or shut down by the pandemic. It's all motivated by their greed!

Not all business owners are quacks like these two, there are some who are very responsible.
I have a family member in the US who owns a mid size 100+ locations national restaurant chain, currently they only have 10% of their locations open for business even for take out, and although businesses including restaurants are allowed to open in Georgia they do not have any plans to open those businesses up any time soon. But unfortunately people and their selfish greed is a problem we are facing. Why it is extremely important that when this ends we support those businesses who were responsible and avoid those that weren't.

 

[t.o.leafs.fan]

Do you ever hear on the news that almost a million people have recovered ? And that only 3% of the global population is in critical condition ?

Try Fox. They seem to want to downplay the virus so it's likely your best bet.

 

[Ssuper]

Dave Phoenix I have not seen a single person post on here that we need to shut down for 2 years. People like the poster above keep making the assumptions that are furthest from reality they can make in an effort to promote the idea of opening businesses up ASAP, and have been running around promoting the "Sweden success" propoganda meanwhile all evidence proves so far they haven't been as successful as their immediate neighbours Denmark and Norway.
You are 100% right about the 14 day downward curve and I've posted this numerous times, unfortunately some people still haven't understood or willfully ignoring that most important fact (asymptomatic carriers) revolving around the Coronavirus.

While I have been happy with generally the way we have handle it in Ontario. I have been also following what been going on in Sweden closely. It’s never been about preventing deaths or illness. It’s been about flattening the curve and stopping the healthcare system from becoming over burden. While there is reports the healthcare system in Sweden has been strained it has never been over burden. With the warmer weather coming and an end to the flu season, I’d say both Ontario and Sweden have done what they set out to do.

Sweden might of set a road map that we can follow and improve on to deal with wave two of this pandemic.