Wow. It looked like there must have been AT LEAST a couple of dozen people there.
End the Lockdown
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According to Ford they will infect tens of thousands of people with C19.
Fuck at the grocery store I have more people cross my path just to pick up a bunch of bananas since they do not want to wait 2 seconds for me to my move cart out of the way or the stupid fucking dicks can't follow the one way signs on the floor.
All of this information is out there for everyone to read if they are really interested about the facts rather than biased or propoganda videos. Here are two links.
"Stefan Lofven, Sweden's prime minister, said today that after taking a 'flexible' approach to restricting movements within its borders, the country's coronavirus measures were 'not good enough'."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ns-Austria-Denmark-begin-easing-lockdown.html
"MPs in Sweden have given the government extra powers to curb the rising COVID-19 death toll in the country. The government will be able to approve bills related to the health emergency - for examples closing businesses and schools - without having to go through parliament first."
https://www.euronews.com/2020/04/16...ovid-19-containment-as-deaths-hit-record-high
See while some few irrational, loud and ignorant people are praising what Sweden is doing as a "success" through propoganda or biased non factual videos or online here, even the Swedish prime minister has realized the method they thought was going to work is not as successful as they thought it would be.
Community Anger Shuts Down Connecticut City's Plan To Use Drones for Coronavirus Monitoring
It took all of two days for a Connecticut city's plan to use drone tech to snoop on citizen behavior to make sure they're complying with coronavirus rules for an angry public to shut it down.
On Tuesday, the Westport Police Department announced it had launched a pilot project in coordination with Canadian company Draganfly to send drones hovering around the city to make sure people in public spaces were maintaining six feet of social distance.
But these drones were much more intrusive than simply looking for crowds. Draganfly's drone-mounted biometric monitoring tools are even more sinister, dystopian, and potentially abusive. The drone is able to quickly measure whether people are six feet apart from each other, and Draganfly claims it can also measure heart rate, body temperature, and other vital signs, which suggests that a drone might be able to spot potential infections from above.
Here's how Westport Police Chief Foti Koskinas promoted this "Flatten the Curve Pilot Program" in a Facebook post from Tuesday:
"Westport and its first responder network is one of the most progressive public safety advocates in the nation. They are real pioneers when it comes to adopting and integrating new technology to protect its community. This pandemic has opened up a new frontier and urgent need for the use of drones. Draganfly is the first in the U.S. to implement this state-of-the-art technology to capture and analyze data in a way that has been peer reviewed and clinically researched to save lives."
The community was not thrilled. Facebook comments under the post blasted Westport for violating the privacy of citizens. The police department took a drone out for a test run intended to show the public that it was useful. Instead, it looked creepy. They brought the drone to a Trader Joe's where customers were waiting in line to be allowed into the store to go shopping. They were socially distancing, but they weren't always perfectly six feet apart, and the drone flagged people who were waiting just slightly too close to others or who passed by other people at a distance closer than six feet.
And that was pretty much all it showed—very brief moments of people being maybe a few inches too close to each other. This was not exactly pioneering new ways of keeping people safe. But it did have the potential to violate people's privacy since its biometric analysis supposedly detects symptoms associated with COVID-19, but also any other ailment that increases a person's temperature.
Connecticut activist Michael Picard—who's been written about previously at Reason—raised the alarm about these drones. "Technology is not the be-all and end-all," he tells Reason. "How can a drone sense when someone has a fever when the difference between a normal temperature and a fever is a tenth of a degree, and how will it know the difference between coronavirus and springtime allergies? This will just subject people to pointless harassment. This is just a stepping stone. Before you know it, police departments will be weaponizing drones."
On Thursday, Westport announced it would not participate in this pilot program after all. "In our good faith effort to get ahead of the virus and potential need to manage and safely monitor crowds and social distancing in this environment, our announcement was perhaps misinterpreted, not well-received, and posed many additional questions," First Selectman Jim Marpe said. "We heard and respect your concerns, and are therefore stepping back and re-considering the full impact of the technology and its use in law enforcement protocol."
In response to the city's decision, Picard declared "a victory for the people and civil liberties, especially in a time of overreach….Using drones to surveil people will only breed mistrust, and it will cause people to be unnecessarily harassed."
The entire proposal seemed like a policing tech project looking for an excuse to exist. Westport is a town of fewer than 30,000 people, and it's absurd to think that the police would need a drone to know when large groups of people are organizing, where they're organizing, and whether they're observing social distancing guidelines. Monitoring people's biometric information, meanwhile, is not just unnecessary but invasive and likely to result in police actions that cause more harm than good.
https://reason.com/2020/04/24/commu...lan-to-use-drones-for-coronavirus-monitoring/
It took all of two days for a Connecticut city's plan to use drone tech to snoop on citizen behavior to make sure they're complying with coronavirus rules for an angry public to shut it down.
On Tuesday, the Westport Police Department announced it had launched a pilot project in coordination with Canadian company Draganfly to send drones hovering around the city to make sure people in public spaces were maintaining six feet of social distance.
But these drones were much more intrusive than simply looking for crowds. Draganfly's drone-mounted biometric monitoring tools are even more sinister, dystopian, and potentially abusive. The drone is able to quickly measure whether people are six feet apart from each other, and Draganfly claims it can also measure heart rate, body temperature, and other vital signs, which suggests that a drone might be able to spot potential infections from above.
Here's how Westport Police Chief Foti Koskinas promoted this "Flatten the Curve Pilot Program" in a Facebook post from Tuesday:
"Westport and its first responder network is one of the most progressive public safety advocates in the nation. They are real pioneers when it comes to adopting and integrating new technology to protect its community. This pandemic has opened up a new frontier and urgent need for the use of drones. Draganfly is the first in the U.S. to implement this state-of-the-art technology to capture and analyze data in a way that has been peer reviewed and clinically researched to save lives."
The community was not thrilled. Facebook comments under the post blasted Westport for violating the privacy of citizens. The police department took a drone out for a test run intended to show the public that it was useful. Instead, it looked creepy. They brought the drone to a Trader Joe's where customers were waiting in line to be allowed into the store to go shopping. They were socially distancing, but they weren't always perfectly six feet apart, and the drone flagged people who were waiting just slightly too close to others or who passed by other people at a distance closer than six feet.
And that was pretty much all it showed—very brief moments of people being maybe a few inches too close to each other. This was not exactly pioneering new ways of keeping people safe. But it did have the potential to violate people's privacy since its biometric analysis supposedly detects symptoms associated with COVID-19, but also any other ailment that increases a person's temperature.
Connecticut activist Michael Picard—who's been written about previously at Reason—raised the alarm about these drones. "Technology is not the be-all and end-all," he tells Reason. "How can a drone sense when someone has a fever when the difference between a normal temperature and a fever is a tenth of a degree, and how will it know the difference between coronavirus and springtime allergies? This will just subject people to pointless harassment. This is just a stepping stone. Before you know it, police departments will be weaponizing drones."
On Thursday, Westport announced it would not participate in this pilot program after all. "In our good faith effort to get ahead of the virus and potential need to manage and safely monitor crowds and social distancing in this environment, our announcement was perhaps misinterpreted, not well-received, and posed many additional questions," First Selectman Jim Marpe said. "We heard and respect your concerns, and are therefore stepping back and re-considering the full impact of the technology and its use in law enforcement protocol."
In response to the city's decision, Picard declared "a victory for the people and civil liberties, especially in a time of overreach….Using drones to surveil people will only breed mistrust, and it will cause people to be unnecessarily harassed."
The entire proposal seemed like a policing tech project looking for an excuse to exist. Westport is a town of fewer than 30,000 people, and it's absurd to think that the police would need a drone to know when large groups of people are organizing, where they're organizing, and whether they're observing social distancing guidelines. Monitoring people's biometric information, meanwhile, is not just unnecessary but invasive and likely to result in police actions that cause more harm than good.
https://reason.com/2020/04/24/commu...lan-to-use-drones-for-coronavirus-monitoring/
SK data not relevant at all. Need to look to Germany or France, or other countries that have Cities with a population closer to Toronto. Comparing a population of 250,000 (low # of cases) to a City of 5,000,000 (moderate # of cases) is like comparing Apples to Walnuts.
For sure. With all the interactions those few people have, many others will be affected.
The point is, is that hardly anybody felt strongly enough about the isolation that they felt compelled to demonstrate. I sure hope that c-m was there.
And how was your protest down at Queens Park? Do you feel that you had an impact?
Shelter In Place Is Weakening The Immune Systems Of Everyone Who Complies
https://banned.video/watch?id=5ea49cb42815dd007be82b31
https://banned.video/watch?id=5ea49cb42815dd007be82b31
He was worried he would contract the virus and was self-isolating at home safe and sound.
Sadly, a lot of them don`t have much time left.
Even if we started now, it will be a long slow process.
There are people who want to open now and there are some who want to wait for a vaccine.
100+ years ago we probably could have waited longer but for the majority of Canadian’s debt is high savings are low. Most that are being propped up by the government don’t care about getting the economy going, take away their free money & they’ll be a parade from Yonge Street to Wellington...yeah the one in Ottawa to get things moving. Fuck off with the nonsense of sitting it out with a silent enemy & face reality we need to generate commerce everyday to keep the roofs over our head & food on the table...we don’t have the pockets of Saudi Arabia or Qatar
Everyday our economy is at a standstill or gdp is shrinking & deficit is rising in leaps & bounds. Let’s face the reality we can’t save every senior & more people are going to die it’s happened all through history accept it. Let’s get the show on the road folks
Everyday our economy is at a standstill or gdp is shrinking & deficit is rising in leaps & bounds. Let’s face the reality we can’t save every senior & more people are going to die it’s happened all through history accept it. Let’s get the show on the road folks
There are very few who want to open now without any consideration for the steps that need to actually be taken prior to businesses being open.
Have not a heard a single person say or post we should wait for a vaccine prior to opening businesses back up.
I know what I'll be doing once the weather gets warm. Like what tens of thousands of others will: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-covid-19-update-april-25-1.5545389
Time to enjoy and mingle like a normal human being again.
This covid scare nonsense has failed.
Time to enjoy and mingle like a normal human being again.
This covid scare nonsense has failed.
As long as you obey emergency & social distancing orders in the "new normal" world. Or, otherwise, be willing to face the music.
"Fines for violating a provincial order under the Emergency Measures Act can range from $750 to $100,000, including up to one year in jail."
https://www.toronto.ca/home/covid-19/covid-19-what-you-should-do/covid-19-orders-directives-by-laws/
