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CNN Panel Mocks Kanye West as Trump’s ‘Token Negro,’ Don Lemon Laughs

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Bud Plugged is the number one conspiracy theorist on this Board.



To this day he still thinks that Heather Heyer is responsible for her own death and James Fields had no responsibility at all in her death!!
Never said any of this. You are so confused!
 

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If you can't discern between calling a black person a token negro and an ape, then you likely don't know the difference between calling one a coon/uncle tom or the n-word...with the er.
I can discern between them just fine. Calling a black person a token negro, in all seriousness, on a so-called news show is a pretty significant insult, invoking a scathing racial stereotype. In essence, it's like calling someone a traitor to their own people. About as low an act as you could accuse anyone of. Calling ANY person an ape, whether they are black or not, is a personal insult which insinuates that they are less intelligent/evolved than a human (you know, like calling the President an Orangutan). However, when it is said by a comedian, on Twitter (not on a national news show) as part of a joke which didn't just reference the Planet of the Apes (where, ironically, Apes are intelligent, and humans are not) but also the Muslim Brotherhood (who are a dangerous organization, and are not really that funny), it really isn't quite as scathing an insult.

There are many reasons for Lemon to be fired, including his crappy ratings. This is a just another reason. It really clarifies who the major sponsors of Lemon's show are that he didn't have to at least apologize to save his job.
 

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I can discern between them just fine. Calling a black person a token negro, in all seriousness, on a so-called news show is a pretty significant insult, invoking a scathing racial stereotype.
Its an insult, but its an insult to Trump and Kanye.
Trump for his racism and Kanye for sucking up to Trump for access to the soapbox.
 

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I can discern between them just fine. Calling a black person a token negro, in all seriousness, on a so-called news show is a pretty significant insult, invoking a scathing racial stereotype. In essence, it's like calling someone a traitor to their own people. About as low an act as you could accuse anyone of. Calling ANY person an ape, whether they are black or not, is a personal insult which insinuates that they are less intelligent/evolved than a human (you know, like calling the President an Orangutan). However, when it is said by a comedian, on Twitter (not on a national news show) as part of a joke which didn't just reference the Planet of the Apes (where, ironically, Apes are intelligent, and humans are not) but also the Muslim Brotherhood (who are a dangerous organization, and are not really that funny), it really isn't quite as scathing an insult.

There are many reasons for Lemon to be fired, including his crappy ratings. This is a just another reason. It really clarifies who the major sponsors of Lemon's show are that he didn't have to at least apologize to save his job.
A White woman call Michelle Obama an ape in heels, who she was relieved to see leave the White House so that a lady of immense class in Melania Trump can now enter it. The ape/monkey reference is reserved for blacks as an insult mainly based on their perceived looks by the purveyors of beauty standards. And that the 'civilised Whites found their primitive asses in the jungles' of Africa. So Roseanne trying to be cute by referring to TWO black women as apes is not 'lesser'. That's like saying calling someone a gay slur is less than calling them an liar based on their obvious lies.

Token negro, coon and uncle tom. All in the same vein. Yes, these are levelled at traitors and unapologetic sell outs. Those who sell their soul to the devil.

Equating calling someone a traitor with calling someone an ape or an n-word belongs in the Mr Fantastic supreme reach category.

Let me simplify it. Calling out someone for being a traitor, someone of poor virtue who would sell their own mother for a beef patty is not the same as calling out someone and insulting them for being born black. One is a choice. I'm sure you know that.
 

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The Democrats see the African American vote as a birthright and treat them like sharecroppers. Anything counter to that blows their little minds.
Is this why Republicans are doing unfair voter purges to suppress a whole community that won't vote for them.
 

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Must punish the uppity Negro who dares to think for himself- wasn't that Justice's Thomas sentiment during his confirmation?
 

Bud Plug

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You have a short term memory!!
First of all, EVERYONE has a short term memory. I think you were trying to say "you have a poor memory", or "you have a short memory".

However, if you're right you'll be able to remind me by posting the exact statement I made that backs you up.

But you won't, because you can't, because I didn't. Will that realization make you a more careful poster? Probably not.
 

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A White woman call Michelle Obama an ape in heels, who she was relieved to see leave the White House so that a lady of immense class in Melania Trump can now enter it. The ape/monkey reference is reserved for blacks as an insult mainly based on their perceived looks by the purveyors of beauty standards. And that the 'civilised Whites found their primitive asses in the jungles' of Africa. So Roseanne trying to be cute by referring to TWO black women as apes is not 'lesser'. That's like saying calling someone a gay slur is less than calling them an liar based on their obvious lies.

Token negro, coon and uncle tom. All in the same vein. Yes, these are levelled at traitors and unapologetic sell outs. Those who sell their soul to the devil.

Equating calling someone a traitor with calling someone an ape or an n-word belongs in the Mr Fantastic supreme reach category.

Let me simplify it. Calling out someone for being a traitor, someone of poor virtue who would sell their own mother for a beef patty is not the same as calling out someone and insulting them for being born black. One is a choice. I'm sure you know that.
It seems that you want me to take your posts seriously, but you don't bother responding to the points that are made to you. One, the insult of calling someone a primate IS NOT reserved to insulting black people, as the ongoing Trump=Orangutan insult proves. Two, the usual context of the insult is to suggest that someone has sub human intelligence, however that can't be the context of a reference to the PLANET OF THE APES (where apes are superior in intelligence to humans). Three, while "ape" may be one kind of dehumanizing insult, it's hardly the worst, as apes are actually closer in intelligence to humans than dogs, rats, snakes, worms or any number of other unflattering animal comparisons made to people of varying races.

I think what you might be trying to focus on is a physical comparison between apes and some people. Here's a link to Valerie Jarrett's wikipedia page which includes her picture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Jarrett. To my eye, I could not even identify her as black. Regardless of race, she certainly doesn't have any facial features that could be compared to an ape.

As I've said, I don't equate the two insults. Let me simplify it for you - calling someone a traitor to his people is far worse than, in essence, saying someone is unattractive, stupid, and/or mixed up with the Muslim Brotherhood.

p.s. Some people, of various races, do have features reminiscent of apes, dogs, bears, snakes, rats, cows, elephants, horses, birds, and many other animals. In fact, you've reminded me that all humans are described as "rat brains" in that movie classic Battlefield Earth! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaG7DP5eFhA
 

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Now that that's said prison reform would help facilitate that. Start with ending private prisons.
I'd start with health care first. Join the rest of the world.

There is a reason the U.S. has such high medical/drug costs.
 

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Trump's Token Nego: It was a close competition between Kanye, Denis Rodman and OJ..... you weren't expecting Neil Degrass Tyson, or anyone with a brain, were you?
Trump likes Kanye, he makes him look sane. Kanye is going the Lamar Odom route but much more spectacularly.

wigglee, you forgot Dave Chappelle, conservatives tend to dismiss Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry1x58cErHs
 

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First of all, EVERYONE has a short term memory. I think you were trying to say "you have a poor memory", or "you have a short memory".

However, if you're right you'll be able to remind me by posting the exact statement I made that backs you up.

But you won't, because you can't, because I didn't. Will that realization make you a more careful poster? Probably not.

Am not going to scout out what you have said in the past.
But will point that out to you in the future when you are back with your Conspiracy Theory style of statements!!
 

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Am not going to scout out what you have said in the past.
But will point that out to you in the future when you are back with your Conspiracy Theory style of statements!!
If you're not sure what someone has actually said in a prior post, you shouldn't claim they said it without first confirming that your recollection/perception was correct. Another learning opportunity for you.

I think you fundamentally do not understand what I have said in posts about Charlottesville.

A batter who can't keep up with a fastball learns to choke up on the bat.
 

bver_hunter

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If you're not sure what someone has actually said in a prior post, you shouldn't claim they said it without first confirming that your recollection/perception was correct. Another learning opportunity for you.

I think you fundamentally do not understand what I have said in posts about Charlottesville.

A batter who can't keep up with a fastball learns to choke up on the bat.
Do not worry that will all be revealed in the future.
 

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I think you revealed yourself just now!
So Antifa showed up to protest a Proud Boys event, shouted "Kill more Nazis", hurled urine at them, vandalized the venue, and then started a fight with them by stealing a MAGA hat off of one their heads? What's their complaint, that they lost the fight they started? Lesson? Don't start fights, especially with people who are likely to win the fight.

The NYPD are not fools. They understand how this happened, and they understand the difference between a real hate group and a SPLC hate group.

The Huffpost is a silly publication. Really nothing more than a comic book. Though I do admire their creativity. "Proto facist" is a new one. Does it mean facist, or not? If not, what's the difference? Sounds like they're finally giving up on "neo-Nazi" or straight "fascist" ever sticking. And "Shay Horse" - nothing more need be said about that nom de plume! Oddly, the "journalist" named "Sandi Bashom" doesn't seem to have gotten involved in any of the bashing.

In all seriousness, if these Antifa twits had ever learned the lessons of childhood, like "keep your hands to yourself", stuff like this would never happen.
No you revealed yourself with the defence of the Neo Nazi "Victims". The Conspiracy Theory of the MSM is what you buy. Period!!
 

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No you revealed yourself with the defence of the Neo Nazi "Victims". The Conspiracy Theory of the MSM is what you buy. Period!!
You can't make up your mind. You said all would be revealed later. Now you're not so sure. Too hard to follow your thinking!
 
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