CNBC commentator Marc Faber says "Thank God white people populated America, not black

[Smallcock]

Now if we could just sort out how to tell who belongs to which group we could get somewhere useful. But I don't see any practical way to determine IQ — or intellectual capability or … — of the people we must interact with in our daily doings. Which is why we do not use those objective standards, and thus need legislated ones like Bills and Charters that try at least to keep us from mis-judging.

Like when we look at a nose shape, or hair curl, or skin-tone and think we know something about intelligence, athleticism or peaceableness. We don't. We know only that there's an individual facing us, and whatever 'race' we may assign them to, they and their behaviour will be entirely unique.

The only useful aspect of any 'race' question is how to eliminate that concept from our serious thinking and significant behaviours as rapidly and completely as possible.

That sounds great in theory, oldjones, but your PC denial of race isn't going to make the world a better place. For example, when a "white" or "black" person sees that people that come from the geographic region of Asia (for our purposes let's call them "Chinese" - yellow skin, slanted eyes) have higher rates of financial success and representation in the elite of society, it won't matter whether you define them as a race or not. Everybody else on Earth outside the halls of PC academia will and does... most likely because it's self-evident.

No amount of PC propaganda is going to change the fact that when you control for environment and socio-economic status, the average Asian will outperform the average White. I know, I shouldn't even use those terms, because there is no such thing as race. LOL

 

[mandrill]

That sounds great in theory, oldjones, but your PC denial of race isn't going to make the world a better place. For example, when a "white" or "black" person sees that people that come from the geographic region of Asia (for our purposes let's call them "Chinese" - yellow skin, slanted eyes) have higher rates of financial success and representation in the elite of society, it won't matter whether you define them as a race or not. Everybody else on Earth outside the halls of PC academia will and does... most likely because it's self-evident.

No amount of PC propaganda is going to change the fact that when you control for environment and socio-economic status, the average Asian will outperform the average White. I know, I shouldn't even use those terms, because there is no such thing as race. LOL

Get counseling while you still can, Smallcock. There is yet time. :clock:

 

[Smallcock]

Get counseling while you still can, Smallcock. There is yet time. :clock:

Perhaps you and oldjones should picket the US Department of Justice since they still use your "social construct" of race.

If you want more on such stats and their REAL WORLD application, watch this informative video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm_Vv3Q24uQ

Let me know if it's all just "academic" to you.

 

[oldjones]

Perhaps you and oldjones should picket the US Department of Justice since they still use your "social construct" of race.

If you want more on such stats and their REAL WORLD application, watch this informative video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm_Vv3Q24uQ

Let me know if it's all just "academic" to you.

They have real work they're paid to accomplish. They'll use whatever it takes. Like the folks who have to pump out porta-potties. Racial stats are the same, the shits there, you have to deal with it and get rid of it before it poisons everyone.

It's your social construct of race, not mine. You found the video, if it states the DoJ's realistic, objective definition, I'll invest the time to watch it. But only if you tell me why that definition is anything more then the particular bureaucratic shit-pump they needed to do the work of trying to make 'race' — however defined — the non-issue the Constitution and Bill of rights declare it to be.

 

[Smallcock]

They have real work they're paid to accomplish. They'll use whatever it takes. Like the folks who have to pump out porta-potties. Racial stats are the same, the shits there, you have to deal with it and get rid of it before it poisons everyone.

It's your social construct of race, not mine. You found the video, if it states the DoJ's realistic, objective definition, I'll invest the time to watch it. But only if you tell me why that definition is anything more then the particular bureaucratic shit-pump they needed to do the work of trying to make 'race' — however defined — the non-issue the Constitution and Bill of rights declare it to be.

Are these stats also poison?

https://www.financialsamurai.com/chances-becoming-millionaire-by-race-age-education/

You propose to scrap all "race" stats? You think that'll be helpful to NOT know who is falling behind to address the problem?

 

[Frankfooter]

No amount of PC propaganda is going to change the fact that when you control for environment and socio-economic status, the average Asian will outperform the average White. I know, I shouldn't even use those terms, because there is no such thing as race. LOL

We've all posted links and the findings on the issue, which all say that your claim is false.
The science says that there are no genetically different races and that there no genetically smarter groups of humans you call 'races'.

Since we've discussed this and shown this to be the case, that leaves me with the result that you must just be a racist.
Someone who has come to their own conclusions on genetics despite the science, based on their own preconceptions.

 

[Smallcock]

We've all posted links and the findings on the issue, which all say that your claim is false.
The science says that there are no genetically different races and that there no genetically smarter groups of humans you call 'races'.

Since we've discussed this and shown this to be the case, that leaves me with the result that you must just be a racist.
Someone who has come to their own conclusions on genetics despite the science, based on their own preconceptions.

Your bigotry of lower expectations means that groups that need help won't get it.

While you're at it, tell this professor that race doesn't exist. There are no "White" students so her thesis that mathematics exacerbates "White Priviledge" is bonkers.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/2...-teaching-math-university-professor-says.html

 

[basketcase]

oagre's quote is way behind the times. They've already taken all the good jobs....

And more from the pages of Mein Kampf.

 

[basketcase]

I don't think it's fair to say anyone "steals" the top jobs nor take "all" the top jobs. Neither is accurate.

Yet that's exactly what you posted.

Jewish Americans are very successful because they're smarter than your average non-Jewish American. One doesn't have to be a Jewish brain surgeon to understand that.

I'm still waiting for some actual evidence that shows a causal relationship between 'race' and IQ.

 

[Smallcock]

Yet that's exactly what you posted.

I'm still waiting for some actual evidence that shows a causal relationship between 'race' and IQ.

Let's stick to correlation. Re-read the thread if you didn't understand the info contained in it the first time.

 

[basketcase]

Let's stick to correlation. Re-read the thread if you didn't understand the info contained in it the first time.

What, you don't want to talk about claiming Jews took all the good jobs and then denying you said it?


And for someone who claims to be discussing from a scientific basis, it is laughable that in the absence of evidence you want to stick to coincidence.

 

[Smallcock]

What, you don't want to talk about claiming Jews took all the good jobs and then denying you said it?

Your attempts to mischaracterize and re-interpret what I've said is fooling no one.

Nobody disputes that Jews are over-represented in elite jobs. But you probably do because you don't know your topic.

With that said, there isn't a finite amount of good jobs. Good jobs are created and destroyed every day. It's sad that I have to get into such silly minutia with you.

And for someone who claims to be discussing from a scientific basis, it is laughable that in the absence of evidence you want to stick to coincidence.

Coincidence? I said correlation. There are online dictionaries at your disposal if you don't know the words being used here.

 

[Frankfooter]

Your bigotry of lower expectations means that groups that need help won't get it.

There are groups that need help, but its socioeconomic health.
Its systematic racism that's lead to those skewed test results.

whites are five times as likely as blacks to receive substantial gifts and inheritances, and the sums they get tend to be much larger. The money “can be used to jump-start further wealth accumulation, for example, by enabling white families to buy homes and begin acquiring equity earlier in their lives,” the study says.
The result is that whites’ wealth advantage—and blacks’ disadvantage—gets passed down from generation to generation. Which means that forms of racial discrimination “that happened in the past, like redlining, continue to show up in bank accounts today,” says Traub.
Discrimination isn’t just a problem of the past, Traub says. She points to another study she co-wrote on racial steering in mortgages. In 2012, for example, Wells Fargo & Co. paid at least $175 million to settle allegations that it steered thousands of black and Latino borrowers into subprime mortgages when non-Hispanic white borrowers with similar credit profiles received prime loans.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ason-whites-are-richer-than-blacks-in-america

 

[Smallcock]

There are groups that need help, but its socioeconomic health.
Its systematic racism that's lead to those skewed test results.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ason-whites-are-richer-than-blacks-in-america

Wealth and inheritance are important features of life, however wealth is usually earned, not inherited, and the wealthy tend to lose it within 3 generations. Furthermore, poverty didn't lower the test scores of Jews and Asians below White Americans. So let's focus on your charge of systemic racism.

Provide me with examples of systemic racism that has led to skewed test results. Racism exists but systemic racism is illegal so I'm curious to read your direct examples of it.

 

[oldjones]

Are these stats also poison?

https://www.financialsamurai.com/chances-becoming-millionaire-by-race-age-education/

You propose to scrap all "race" stats? You think that'll be helpful to NOT know who is falling behind to address the problem?

I don't propose to scrap any 'race' stats. To continue my metaphor, that's be like taking on the shit-hauling job without first estimating the amount you have to remove, or measuring the amounts in the loads take out, ot what's seems to still be coming in. I accept 'race' stats as a part of the dirty job of eliminating racism as best we can, but it doesn't make me any happier about sticking my tape measure into the tank.

 

[Frankfooter]

Wealth and inheritance are important features of life, however wealth is usually earned, not inherited, and the wealthy tend to lose it within 3 generations. Furthermore, poverty didn't lower the test scores of Jews and Asians below White Americans. So let's focus on your charge of systemic racism.

Provide me with examples of systemic racism that has led to skewed test results. Racism exists but systemic racism is illegal so I'm curious to read your direct examples of it.

I've already provided plenty of sources that back me up.
Its time for you to come up with your first bit of eugenics research to back up your claims and prove that you're not just racist.

 

[Smallcock]

I've already provided plenty of sources that back me up.
Its time for you to come up with your first bit of eugenics research to back up your claims and prove that you're not just racist.

Lol you're ridiculous.

 

[basketcase]

Your attempts to mischaracterize and re-interpret what I've said is fooling no one.

Here's what you said.

oagre's quote is way behind the times. They've already taken all the good jobs. Someone should tell those "Far Right White Heritage" that ship has sailed.

Pretty clear.

Coincidence? I said correlation. There are online dictionaries at your disposal if you don't know the words being used here.

When talking science if you don't have evidence of causation, there is no difference between coincidence and correlation.

 

[Smallcock]

Here's what you said.


Pretty clear.




When talking science if you don't have evidence of causation, there is no difference between coincidence and correlation.

More silly and inaccurate minutia. Anything else?

 

[Frankfooter]

More silly and inaccurate minutia. Anything else?

I'm with basketcase on this one.
Your post makes claims on race, the same ones that the white supremacists chanted in Charlottesville.