And it is so obviously hypocritical that in the same thread you condemn Saudi funding of terror you attempt to whitewash the almost continual terrorism they fund against Israel....
Over the last few years there has been very little Palestinian 'terrorism',
And as usual you can't win an argument with actual facts so you outright lie about other people's views. Palestinians aren't evil. Hamas, Fatah's armed wing, and several other Palestinian groups sure as hell are terrorists groups though. That's not my opinion but the official stance of Canada.Even you, when trying to show how evil Palestinians are
Once you average in the West Bank and Gaza to Israel's rating its about the same.Saudi Arabia - 10% free
Iran - 17% free
Compared to Israel - 80% free
You have absolutely no basis to your argument except for your obsessive view on Israel.
So you think Saudi are funding terrorism in Palestine as well as funding the 9/11 attacks yet still think Afghanistan was the correct target because they rented them training space?And it is so obviously hypocritical that in the same thread you condemn Saudi funding of terror you attempt to whitewash the almost continual terrorism they fund against Israel.
You are obviously a failure at math too. Israel is 80% free and that includes 1.5 million Arab citizens of Israel. The Palestinian territories are between 12 and 27% free depending on how you want to average. Any way you want to average it it is way above Iran and Saudi.Once you average in the West Bank and Gaza to Israel's rating its about the same.
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I think Saudi and Iranian funding of terrorism deserves sanctions. Western governments are continually sanctioning groups that raise money for terrorist organizations like Hamas.So you think Saudi are funding terrorism in Palestine as well as funding the 9/11 attacks yet still think Afghanistan was the correct target because they rented them training space?
Lets check your math.You are obviously a failure at math too. Israel is 80% free and that includes 1.5 million Arab citizens of Israel. The Palestinian territories are between 12 and 27% free depending on how you want to average. Any way you want to average it it is way above Iran and Saudi.
I'd agree and Israel should be put on that list as well for apartheid.I think Saudi and Iranian funding of terrorism deserves sanctions. Western governments are continually sanctioning groups that raise money for terrorist organizations like Hamas.
According to the news reports the Saudi government financed and helped organize the dry run on 9/11. That's way more active support then letting AQ train in the backwaters of Afghanistan.Meanwhile the actual guys who planned 9/11 were located in Afghanistan with full support of their government. Do you really think the US should have invaded Saudi Arabia to punish guys who had fled from the Saudi authorities? I know you don't want to look at it but AQ and their leadership are/were actively hunted in Saudi Arabia.
Funny. You've spent a lot of time making excuses for Iran and Hamas.I'd agree ...
So you think that going after the actual attackers is wrong and suggest going after the country where the attackers had fled prosecution from? Interesting....
Even at worst the Afghanis just let AQ train on their land, funding the dry run of 9/11 is way more active a role.
They didn't go after the actual attackers, they went after the country that they happened to be staying in instead.So you think that going after the actual attackers is wrong and suggest going after the country where the attackers had fled prosecution from? Interesting.
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usne...government-funded-dry-run-of-plane-hijackingsAccording to the report, at least $15,000 went directly from Prince Bandar’s bank account in Washington to the family of a Saudi expatriate, suspected of being a Saudi government spy, who organized a support network in California for two of the 9/11 hijackers while they were living in San Diego in the year before the attacks.
They did both. And under the Taliban, Afghanistan's level of freedoms were even worse than Saudi Arabia.They didn't go after the actual attackers, they went after the country that they happened to be staying in instead....
How did attacking Afghanistan benefit anyone?They did both. And under the Taliban, Afghanistan's level of freedoms were even worse than Saudi Arabia.
I really can't believe that you are arguing they should have attacked Saudi Arabia. How would that benefit anyone?
It shut down Al Queda's main base of operation. It also got rid of the Taliban government which means that women now have some level of human rights. I'm sure that many in Afghanistan see the removal of the Taliban as a significant benefit.How did attacking Afghanistan benefit anyone?....
FailureIt shut down Al Queda's main base of operation.
Total failure.It also got rid of the Taliban government which means that women now have some level of human rights.
The Afghan gov't calls US policy a failure and wants to go into peace talks with the Taliban.I'm sure that many in Afghanistan see the removal of the Taliban as a significant benefit.
Of coarse that is all correct,... and accomplished without attacking Afghanistan.It shut down Al Queda's main base of operation. It also got rid of the Taliban government which means that women now have some level of human rights. I'm sure that many in Afghanistan see the removal of the Taliban as a significant benefit.
And despite your attempt to blame everything on the US, the world was a fucked up and unsafe place already.
It's asinine comments like this that make it impossible to have a constructive debate with you.Israel's human rights record is worse then either Saudi or Iran, based on their 70 year occupation and poor treatment of half of their population.
The State of Palestine is not part of Israel, it's occupied and by definition that means it's not Israel. You yourself called it occupied in your own post. Within the occupied territories the Palestinians have self rule and the basic freedom issues relate to that self rule: Hamas murdering political enemies, Fatah refusing to hold elections, etc.Lets check your math.
The number of Jewish citizens is now equal or less then the number of Palestinian 'refugee's' and Arab 'citizens' living under Israeli rule.
http://forward.com/news/breaking-ne...-pass-jews-by-2017-in-israel-and-territories/
So when you weight that 80% with 20% (average of your two numbers) you end up with a freedom index of 50% for those living under Israeli rule.
Not so shining any more.
Not that Freedom Houses metrics are that unbiased in any event, but even by your best choice Israel is not looking great.
And again, neither Saudi Arabia or Iran currently runs an apartheid rule or runs anything like the Gaza strip, which Save the Children just declared 'unliveable'.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2...onditions-gaza-unlivable-one-million-children
Ok, what has Iran or Saudi Arabia done that's a worse crime then apartheid?It's asinine comments like this that make it impossible to have a constructive debate with you.
Can girls go to school now?...
Total failure.
Afghanistan's human rights are no better, the present puppet government barely runs Kabul.
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We can start with their military intervention in Yemen. Then we can discuss how Saudi Arabia treats religious minorities and women, how the give extended prison terms to people who criticize their government, and enslaves migrant workers. Saudi Arabia actually has Muslims only roads and cities where only Muslims are allowed by law. You like Human Rights Watch so take a look. https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2017/country-chapters/saudi-arabiaOk, what has Iran or Saudi Arabia done that's a worse crime then apartheid?
