1) Saudi Arabia doesn't do any better.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia
2)https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...links-between-saudi-royal-family-and-al-qaeda
Saudi Arabia financed a dry run of 9/11 in 1999
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2)https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...links-between-saudi-royal-family-and-al-qaeda
And compare it to Israeli interventions in Lebanon and Syria?We can start with their military intervention in Yemen.
But Saudi Arabia doesn't have charges for anything as bad as apartheid currently started at the ICC, do they?Then we can discuss how Saudi Arabia treats religious minorities and women,
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jan/30/forced-contraception-jewish-ethopian-womenhow the give extended prison terms to people who criticize their government, and enslaves migrant workers.
Israel has Jewish only roads, running through Palestinian 'occupied' lands.Saudi Arabia actually has Muslims only roads and cities where only Muslims are allowed by law.
Doesn't read as bad as this:You like Human Rights Watch so take a look. https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2017/country-chapters/saudi-arabia
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2017/country-chapters/israel/palestine
Gaza, the world's largest open air prison, is now unliveable.Even Hamas run Gaza ranks as more free than Saudi Arabia.
By what metric does that rank as more free then Saudi Arabia?
Changing the question again? You asked how attacking Afghanistan benefited anyone. I answered. Girls benefited because they can now go to school.1) Saudi Arabia doesn't do any better.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia
2)https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...links-between-saudi-royal-family-and-al-qaeda
Do you care to explain why Saudi Arabia has a worse rating on human rights than Hamas run Gaza? You keep telling us that Gaza is "unlivable" yet still Saudi Arabia ranks worse. Hmm.And compare it to Israeli...
There is some commonality between the two though. Hamas millionaires and Saudi Millionaires live in luxury, essentially exempt from the law while the people are oppressed by their alleged leaders.
Repeating this lie doesn't make it true. Israel built roads for Israeli citizens which includes 1.5 million Arab citizens. Saudi Arabia on the other hand has actual Muslim only roads and towns. Try taking a trip to visit Mecca....
Israel has Jewish only roads, running through Palestinian 'occupied' lands...
The rest of your post is a pathetic attempt to compare small rights abuses in Israel to massive ones in Saudi Arabia.
Yemen didn't attack Saudi Arabia. Lebanon and Syria did attack Israel. Israel defended itself from their attacks.And compare it to Israeli interventions in Lebanon and Syria?
No it doesn't. Those roads are open to any Israeli citizen.Israel has Jewish only roads, running through Palestinian 'occupied' lands.
You lie.
No it isn't. Gaza is a terrorist enclave which has militarized borders because its defacto government has repeatedly attacked Israel.Gaza, the world's largest open air prison, is now unliveable.
You brought Israel into the thread, now when its shown that comparison with Saudi Arabia doesn't make Israel look good, you claim I changed the subject.Changing the question again? You asked how attacking Afghanistan benefited anyone. I answered. Girls benefited because they can now go to school.
tsk, tsk.
That's the best you've got, though, isn't it?
Claiming that Israeli Arabs are allowed to drive on Jewish only, or 'settler' roads in the Occupied Territories is a very sad argument.Repeating this lie doesn't make it true. Israel built roads for Israeli citizens which includes 1.5 million Arab citizens.
B'teselem notes that these 'settler only' roads differ from South African Apartheid only in the more arbitrary way they are enforced.
https://www.btselem.org/download/200408_forbidden_roads_eng.pdfThe roads regime that Israel operates in the
West Bank differs from the policies of South
African apartheid in at least one important way.
While every last detail of the apartheid system
was formulated in legislation, the roads regime
in the West Bank has never been put on paper,
neither in military legislation nor in any official
decision. Implementation of the regime by IDF
soldiers and Border Police officers is based
solely on verbal orders given to the security
forces. Therefore, enforcement of the roads
regime entails a greater degree of arbitrariness
than was the case with the regime that existed
in South Africa
Its pathetic that you claim to defend Muslims yet continue to support apartheid.
Since bullshit is the best you got, this argument was over long ago.You brought Israel into the thread, now when its shown that comparison with Saudi Arabia doesn't make Israel look good, you claim I changed the subject.
tsk, tsk.
That's the best you've got, though, isn't it?
1) Saudi Arabia ranks worse in terms of human rights than even Hamas run Gaza.
2) Women in Afghanistan benefited from the invasion as did anyone not subscribing to the Taliban version of Islamic law.
Really?Claiming that Israeli Arabs are allowed to drive on Jewish only, or 'settler' roads in the Occupied Territories is a very sad argument....
In normal human discussion, proof that the roads aren't Jewish only would end things. And your own source proves there is no policy of Jewish only roads.
Meanwhile Saudi Arabia actually has Muslim only roads and cities. But why would you complain about a country with a worse human rights record than Hamas run Gaza?
Nothing Saudi is doing tops this.Since bullshit is the best you got, this argument was over long ago.
1) Saudi Arabia ranks worse in terms of human rights than even Hamas run Gaza.
Israeli Party Approves Annexation Plan to Coerce Palestinian Departure
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Arguing that anyone in Afghanistans has benefited from the 16 years of war and bombing by the US is highly suspect.2) Women in Afghanistan benefited from the invasion as did anyone not subscribing to the Taliban version of Islamic law.
Nobody benefits from living in a war zone, and the Taliban are still there.
Its shocking how you can outright lie about a legit human rights report stating that there are racist, apartheid roads in the Occupied Territories, or that 'settler only' roads aren't 'Jewish only' roads.Really?
In normal human discussion, proof that the roads aren't Jewish only would end things. And your own source proves there is no policy of Jewish only roads.
Shocking how low you have to sink now.
I am complaining about Saudi Arabia, suggesting that the US should not have targeted Afghanistan when Saudi's were funding and prepping 9/11.Meanwhile Saudi Arabia actually has Muslim only roads and cities. But why would you complain about a country with a worse human rights record than Hamas run Gaza?
And yes, I agree, Saudi is probably about as bad as Israel right now for their support of terrorism, though its hard to say if that's worse then apartheid or not.
So why is Saudi Arabia ranked at 10% free, worse than even Hamas run Gaza?Nothing Saudi is doing tops this.
Even your report says they are not. During spikes in Palestinian terrorism they are often limited to Israeli citizens but that includes Israeli Arabs who have the exact same legal rights as every other Israeli citizen. And despite your posturing, those Israeli Arabs benefit from a country rated as 80% free.Its shocking how you can outright lie about a legit human rights report stating that there are racist, apartheid roads in the Occupied Territories, or that 'settler only' roads aren't 'Jewish only' roads.
Shocking how low you have to sink now.
You mean when they say this:Even your report says they are not.
Why do you back apartheid roads and racist acts in Israel then pretend to defend Muslims elsewhere?The Forbidden Roads Regime is based on
the premise that all Palestinians are security
risks and therefore it is justifiable to restrict
their movement. This is a racist premise that
led to a policy that indiscriminately harms the
entire Palestinian population, in violation of its
human rights and of international law
You are all for human rights except if it includes Palestinians.
Where they don't dispute that the roads are often for Israeli citizens only? Their diatribe is worthless because it runs contrary to the facts that Israeli Arabs have free access and that Palestinian terrorism is a continual and real.You mean when they say this:...
Why do you obsessively lie about Israel while criticizing posters who obsess about Muslims? While you're at it, how can you complain about Saudi involvement in terrorism while completely whitewashing Palestinian involvement in terror?
And I notice you have absolutely no response to Saudi Arabia being ranked even worse than Hamas run Gaza.
This is what they actually said, which is the opposite of what you pretend they said.Where they don't dispute that the roads are often for Israeli citizens only? Their diatribe is worthless because it runs contrary to the facts that Israeli Arabs have free access and that Palestinian terrorism is a continual and real.
This is a racist premise that
led to a policy that indiscriminately harms the
entire Palestinian population, in violation of its
human rights and of international law
Why do you accuse me of 'lying' about Israel when I back every statement with reports like the one above from B'teselem?Why do you obsessively lie about Israel while criticizing posters who obsess about Muslims? While you're at it, how can you complain about Saudi involvement in terrorism while completely whitewashing Palestinian involvement in terror?
And yet you cannot ever bring any piece of evidence to support your claims, all you can do is blindly accuse me of lying when I post reports you don't like.
I said this:And I notice you have absolutely no response to Saudi Arabia being ranked even worse than Hamas run Gaza.
I am complaining about Saudi Arabia, suggesting that the US should not have targeted Afghanistan when Saudi's were funding and prepping 9/11.
And yes, I agree, Saudi is probably about as bad as Israel right now for their support of terrorism, though its hard to say if that's worse then apartheid or not.
And don't forget, Israel is occupying Gaza and are responsible for the conditions there according to the Geneva Conventions, not Hamas.
Back to your blatant lying. Your "Jewish roads" claim was refuted. You have no grounds to use the word apartheid, every justification you gave for that claim was refuted. It's just bluster and lying based on your hate.You mean when they say this:
Why do you back apartheid roads and racist acts in Israel then pretend to defend Muslims elsewhere?
You are all for human rights except if it includes Palestinians.
