9/11 was ‘mother of all false flag attacks’: US scholar

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You would have to be pretty fucking stupid to think the planes were fake. Tens of thousands of people saw those planes.
Speaking of planes, I'm not sure what to make of this myself, but, it's interesting to hear eye witness accounts from democratically free, 100% Yankee Americans. :thumb:
 

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Now watch this video below; World Trade Center 1 and look at 8:33. Smoke coming out from the lobby BEFORE the debris hit the ground.
Because it was forced through the elevator shaft and other conduits.

Duh. If you are THAT ignorant don't even post in this thread.

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So we are to believe that they were thousands and thousands of conspirators, doing everything from faking bin Laden, to faking the planes, to sneaking around dressed as construction workers, to faking the NIST report, all to plan and then cover up the murder of fifteen hundred of their countrymen.

And not one person talked.

Fucking hilarious, you would have to be STOOOOOPID to believe a howler like that.

And you say there are holes in the NIST report? There is an interstellar black hole at the center of your "theory".

As for your "oh look, they were pancaking the floors below them, that's why they free fell" is you being intentionally dishonest
You can carry on bullshitting but the jig is up, the slow motion videos are on YouTube and anyone, ANYONE, can go watch them and see that the building gets crushed from the top down instead of collapsing.

You have no argument.
 

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This is my last post and I only want the truly curious to watch it (Tes and GB). Start at time line 1:30:00. Probably one of the best documentaries produced thus far. 1:36:00 was especially interesting. How do you
explain this away?


 

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This is my last post and I only want the truly curious to watch it (Tes and GB). Start at time line 1:30:00. Probably one of the best documentaries produced thus far.
Based on what ???? That is like me picking Gremlins as the best documentary to prove gremlins actually exist. If you actually looked at the videos I posted, you would see a concise factual explanation that matches what people THERE saw, the traffic controllers saw, the people on the hijacked airplanes reported from their phones, etc, etc, etc, etc...... ad nauseam.

What I find amazing is that while ignoring the overwhelming evidence and swallowing all this wild conspiracy bullshit, you have not actually bothered to explain how this great illusion of fooling 100 cameras focused on the collision in real time was performed. Or how several truck loads of debris which included personal passenger items, mangled parts identified by serial numbers as parts of the hijacked jets were distributed - unnoticed - over the streets and roof tops lower Manhattan during the chaos. Holy f*ck man, think about the logistics of what you are suggesting and tell me in all honesty - which is more probable ?
 

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There have also been reconstructions based on the damage to lamp posts and the like which could only have been caused by a plane.

Of course in tit's view, they were done manually then the pulled out one of those men in black memory wipe things and planted false memories in all the witnesses heads.

Yes, that too, that too.
 

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On the contrary my friend, there were people who saw but MORE importantly, heard explosions.

Here's a demolition of a building, look at the bottom of the building, ground level, see the smoke coming out from the ground floor BEFORE ANY of the top portion of the building hits the ground?
Click to 0:27 and watch --->https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMpJQgbKsms


Now watch this video below; World Trade Center 1 and look at 8:33. Smoke coming out from the lobby BEFORE the debris hit the ground.
Hmmmm...interesting..
Now people can question, HOW on earth can they get the explosives in and do something like that without noticing? Easy, this video explains it.
Toolboxes, unassuming toolboxes, men in one piece work jump suits and hard hats coming in, nobody would even wonder who they are and go about their day.
Watch the video above at the beginning for less than a minute, you'll get the idea.



Fuji, I'll be back to quash your replies, I'm in a rush, but I had to reply to no explosion bullshit.
As for your "oh look, they were pancaking the floors below them, that's why they free fell" is you being intentionally dishonest (because you're pro-American/Israeli, no surprise) or you are really that naive/stuipd, etc.


No explosions for building 7 (I just watched that video).

In any controlled demolitions, you hear multiple blasts in sequence. You DON'T hear or see blasts for WTC 7.

You do here blasts for the larger towers but that's the compression of the air and material forced by the collapsing higher floors downwards, just like when you hear a pop if you drive over a water bottle or paper coffee cup.
 

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No explosions for building 7 (I just watched that video).

In any controlled demolitions, you hear multiple blasts in sequence. You DON'T hear or see blasts for WTC 7.

You do here blasts for the larger towers but that's the compression of the air and material forced by the collapsing higher floors downwards, just like when you hear a pop if you drive over a water bottle or paper coffee cup.
It is generally known that there were lots of paper cups in the twin towers.
 

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I happened to be walking by and noticed you guys are still at this. This is as bad as who "really" killed President Kennedy.
 

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I happened to be walking by and noticed you guys are still at this. This is as bad as who "really" killed President Kennedy.
No its worse, there's almost 3000 people who lost their lives.
 

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No its worse, there's almost 3000 people who lost their lives.
And amazingly you believe thousands of people were in on a conspiracy to kill them and then cover up their murder, and yet not ONE of those people blew the whistle.

Unfathomable.
 

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I have to do this. Please watch it. I really don't understand what some of you are missing here about the motive for this disaster.

 

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I have to do this. Please watch it. I really don't understand what some of you are missing here about the motive for this disaster.

Titalian, you Sir are a bastard. I was going to post this video myself at some point. Fucker. :thumb:

It's well done and ANYONE with an open mind should watch this, this obviously excludes Fuji, basketcase and a few others.

15:18 and onward is great.

From 17:45 it's great, sums up the ridiculousness of the "real 9/11" story. lol

Love the Bush/Cheney behind close doors bit...
"In secret,
off the record
Not under oath,
behind closed doors"

lol really?
 

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And amazingly you believe thousands of people were in on a conspiracy to kill them and then cover up their murder, and yet not ONE of those people blew the whistle.
With jerks like Bradley Manning, Ed Snowden et al, someone would have gone on national TV 13 years ago and exposed the "conspiracy". This didn't happen because there was no conspiracy.
 

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With jerks like Bradley Manning, Ed Snowden et al, someone would have gone on national TV 13 years ago and exposed the "conspiracy". This didn't happen because there was no conspiracy.
With a select tight few people, with the right amount of money, I can certainly see how and why people can keep their mouth shut.
Money talks my friend. Why do you think there so many girls offering sex for money? Most people will almost do anything for it.
 

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The only thing the U.S. Government is guilty of is horribly inept intelligence, if the CIA had seen the warning signs and acted upon them this tragedy might have been avoided.
 

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The only thing the U.S. Government is guilty of is horribly inept intelligence, if the CIA had seen the warning signs and acted upon them this tragedy might have been avoided.
The CIA are owned by the people with money !!! Why do think JFK was assassinated.
 

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With a select tight few people, with the right amount of money, I can certainly see how and why people can keep their mouth shut.
Many enemies of the U.S. also have money and surely, they could have paid people to open their mouths. Hasn't happened.
 

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Because it was forced through the elevator shaft and other conduits.

Duh. If you are THAT ignorant don't even post in this thread.
It certainly looks a lot like what happens when a controlled demolition goes doesn't it? Huge puffs of dust blowing outward. Maybe it's just coincidence.

So we are to believe that they were thousands and thousands of conspirators, doing everything from faking bin Laden, to faking the planes, to sneaking around dressed as construction workers, to faking the NIST report, all to plan and then cover up the murder of fifteen hundred of their countrymen.
Bin Laden was a real person, last I remember, no faking him. He was a convenient person to use in the story however.
Faking the planes? I never said the planes were fake? However, eye witnesses did describe the 2nd plane as not having logos, emblems, etc... and some said it looked like a military plane.
FIREFIGHTERS HEARD AND DESCRIBED EXPLOSIONS to which I noticed you conveniently ignored.
firefighters from 2:12 on....
Are you going to dismiss them as just hearing things? Bunch of crazy firefighters, overworked, fuck 'em, they know not what they say.... is that it?

How about the firefighters who talked about the base of the towers flowing like a foundry of molten steel? Remember that?
Click here, just a 13 second clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwgkA5rlwKI
And remember, jet fuel fire CANNOT melt steel, the temps are TOO low.

You're making it seem like they would need a plethora of people to pull something like this off, not so.
A good solid sized group, tight knit, same mentality, same ideations, same perspectives, that's it. I mean shit, the U.S. really only has their population almost split on who they would choose to run for government and that's hundreds of millions of people.
How many people in the military or ex-military, say, BLACKWATER? Would you need to set up an operation like this?
Isn't America so fucking great to begin with? They apparently can do anything, can't they? Well soldier, there you have it.

NIST report is a farce, they say it fell at the rate of free fall, but there was some obstruction, so it's NOT FREE FALL. fail #1.
Of course they're going to write a report in tune with the government's story, wtf do you think they'll do? Be honest? lol


The jig is up.

The buildings wouldn't be that damaged to the point where the two of them collapse because of TWO planes hitting them.
It's goes against PHYSICS which is SOLID SCIENCE.
Firefighters heard 1...2....3 explosions and the building was falling down on them. boom!........(weaken structure)...................BOOM!......(weaken structure)....................BOOM! (more weakened structure)............building collapses PERFECTLY on its on footprint.

Oh yeah, that foundry of molten steel at the bottom of the towers, you'd need thermitic material to do something like that.
That my friend is SCIENCE again.


You can carry on bullshitting but the jig is up, the slow motion videos are on YouTube and anyone, ANYONE, can go watch them and see that the building gets crushed from the top down instead of collapsing.

You have no argument.
Not arguing, you seem a little angered by it all though. lol

YouTube videos show how demolitions are done. They also show firefighters talking about explosions. They also show firefighters talking about the base of the towers looking like a steel foundry, molten steel running like a river. (which explosives could do, NOT BURNING JET FUEL.....that's science). Videos also show witnesses speaking of the second plane not having any logos, being dark gray, looking militaristic possibly.

YouTube videos unfortunately DON'T have videos of a "plane" apparently hitting the Pentagon. Probably because the government won't release any of the tapes.
(80+ cameras recording around the Pentagon, don't forget)
 
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