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Bibi Wins, Two State Solution Dies?

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Great. So why generations of jews who are born in Europe for centuries years have the right to return to middle east after 2000 years but not those arabs who left their homes 60 years ago ?
Also you mentioned that the UN doesn't recognize West Bank as part of Israel, you should also recognize the UN resolution stating that those refugees have the right to return or are you just cherry picking UN resolution ? You said the UN recognizes that West Bank isn't part of Israel , they have also recognized that those populations aren't part of Jordan, Lebanon , Syrian and have the right to return to their homes.
So you go with blaming Israel AND ignoring wrongs by Arab states. As I said, makes it pretty clear that your not posting out of concern for human rights but rather with some other motive.
 

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Their territory is part of a state that denies them citizenship and denies them a state at the same time, so who's responsible of them being kept stateless ?
So they live in a state that isn't a state...

I'm in a state of confusion.
 

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They live in a state ( Israel ) that denies them an independent state ( Netenyahu last statements ) and denies them citizenship
Would you feel better if Israel (and all Jews) were pushed into the Mediterranean Sea???

Be honest now, we know thats what you're thinking :wink:
 

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WTF . If Canada for example deports natives to the US, denies them returning and then blame the US for not hosting these natives and say it's a US problem not mine, does it make any sense ?
So you continue blaming Israel. Pathetic.

Your whole argument was that people born in a country should have citizenship there. Your refusal to hold Arab states to that standard shows quite clearly that your interest isn't universal human rights.


p.s. Your deporting line is another of your pathetic lies. There was a war and the majority of the Arabs fled. Those that stayed gained full rights. Meanwhile Arab states have refused to uphold the UN Convention on Refugees by keeping their political pawns locked up in camps. This is even more pathetic since it was those same Arab states that started the war and before WWI were all a part of the same Ottoman district as those now called Palestinians. During those same years, hundreds of thousands of Jews were chased out of their homes in Arab lands. Israel went through great economic hardship to integrate those refugees.

Obviously you have no interest in facts or information. All you have is a pathetic anti-Israel bias.
 

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You're talking like those extremist white supremacists who argue that non whites have a hidden plan to ethnically cleanse whites in Canada
Nice turn-around, GW.

I'm impressed
 

AK-47

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GoWest doesnt hate Jews, he's just terribly concerned with the Palestinian people.

Right GW???
 

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If you're concerned about the rights of Tibetans oppressed by chinese government , does it mean that you hate chinese?
No, of course not.

But if you spend well over 50% (hyperbole) of your posts on how much you dislike the Chinese, people might start to wonder if perhaps you dislike a certain race
 

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Where did I say in this thread that I dislike Jews ? For you anyone who dislikes the politics of Netenyahu , dislikes jews ?
Jews start all the wars, dont they GW?? :wink:
 

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Here's the way I see things:

Arabs: (and associated extremist muslims) are batshit crazy!!!
Jews: Are fairly stable. Kind of people you wanna build a country around
 

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Who is talking about pushing Israelis to the sea ? we are talking about the rights of palestinians who are denied basic rights,Israel isn't a nation fighting for survival but expanding settlements and colonizing another other people.
The Palestinians have been explicit and public about their goal of ethnically cleansing Israel. Whether you like admitting the truth or not they launched a war of aggression specifically and explicitly to purge Israel of Jews. When the Arabs captured the JEWISH QUARTER they made a big deal out of boasting that the last Jew had been expelled and toured journalists around to see how all the synagogues had been turned into pigstys and chicken coops.

You can ignore the history of Arab aggression and racism but that just demonstrates that you are willfully ignorant.

The PLO began its campaign of terror against Israel before the 67 occupation. Long before. It is not a reaction to occupation, it is the cause. They have said all along what that terrorism is designed to accomplish, but go ahead and plug your ears.

The security wall exists because Palestinian terrorists did cross into Israel and kill civilians.

You can deny history and try and rewrite it, and we can point out what that makes you.
 

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OK but this Palestinian territory is pat of what state ?
It is reserved for a future Palestinian state and has the status of occupied territory.

It is NOT part of Israel. Occupied territory is BY DEFINITION not part of the occupying state.

You are not entitled to continue lying and calling it part of Israel.
 

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Netenyahu said that there will be no future Palestinian state , why do you keep lying ?
Netanyahu is not an authority on this matter and his opinion is irrelevant. The occupied territories are recognized as occupied by every relevant authority including the UN in multiple resolutions, including BINDING resolutions, and by the International Court of Justice.

It has been pointed out to you many times that Netanyahu has no authority to determine the status of the territory, so even if he said it was part of Israel (which he has NOT said) his opinion isn't even relevant. The office to which he was elected simply does not have the power to annex territory.
 

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Moreover, your argument is not even logical. If there will be no future Palestinian state then it is stateless.

Still not part of Israel.

There are NO GROUNDS WHATSOEVER for calling the west bank part of Israel.
 
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