Bibi Wins, Two State Solution Dies?

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Nentenyahu who was elected by Israelis thinks So.
No he doesn't, he says there won't be a Palestinian state there during his term. He has NOT said that territory should be annexed by Israel.

Don't lie. Also even if he thought so he only represents a little over 20%. He leads a coalition where many disagree.
 

fuji

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You're wrong. Israeli government maintains the population registry in West Bank and Gaza. The palestinian authority cannot hand out ID card without an ID number assigned by Israeli authorities like the SIN number here in canada is assigned by federal government and provinces cannot provide you services without that SIN number.
Have you ever heard about a sovereign country whose population registry is controlled by a foreign country ?
None of what I said was wrong. Britain had to hand out the ID cards when it was an occupier too. So what? Happens in every occupation.
 

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Are you suggesting to revoke the israeli citizenship of arabs living on that territory without their consent ?
They don't have Israeli citizenship so it is nonsense talking about "revoking" something they don't and shouldn't have.

You failed to answer my question: what territory are you talking about? Area A? Area C? Inside or outside the wall?
 

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Also the expansion of settlements make it physically impossible to build a state on discontinued small enclaves and not consistent with a gaol of two states solution which is another reason to believe Nentenayahu
Nonsense. The security wall has NOT moved. The settlements have expanded within it.

And in any case the alternative to two states is NOT one state. There is no reason to believe that territory would become Israel if the Palestinians fail to create a state.
 

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Are you suggesting to revoke the israeli citizenship of arabs living on that territory without their consent ? The majority of Arabs living in Galilee are against that swap plan. What are you going to do with them then ?
You are always bragging that Israeli is democratic because a minority of arabs hold Israeli citizenship and omit the majority who are kept stateless .
Now you want to deny them Israeli citizenship. You have to be consistent with your claims that Israeli is democratic based on the fact that Israelis arabs hold citizenship.
I can't keep track of this.

Depending on which sentence you read, the Arabs have been denied Israeli citizenship, or they had that citizenship and it was revoked, or it is going to be revoked (which would presumably mean they were eligible to vote in the recent election if the revoking hasn't occurred yet).

Too funny.
 

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I was talking about the whole territory, area C will probably be made a reserve where Israel can Isolate arabs
Fuck your imagination is pretty good. I've asked a few times and you ignored it every time. Do you have any facts to back up your claims?
 

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I was talking about the arabs in Galilee, they do have Israeli citizenship and you were talking about swapping their land because it's less strategic that means you were suggesting to revoke their Israeli citizenship against their will as the majority of them already stated that they were against that plan.
Israel would let them choose whether to be Israeli or Palestinian. Perhaps they would be dual citizens. Nobody would have their citizenship revoked. The Israeli constitution would not allow that.

Stop inventing bogus reasons to criticize Israel.
 

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I was talking about the whole territory, area C will probably be made a reserve where Israel can Isolate arabs
Then your argument is flat wrong. There is a wall with an Israeli side and a Palestinian side. That is a fact whether or not you like it.

Your last sentence is just bigotry clouded by ignorance, you don't even know what the areas are, yet you hurl invectives at the Jews.

I guess we can see you clearly.
 

fuji

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He's the foreign affairs minister. I was replying to Fuji who's defending Liberman plans, this is not consistent with his previous statments bragging Isral democracy because some arabs have Israeli citizenship and at the same time supporting Liberman plans to revoke their ctizenship
I never mentioned Lieberman or his plan, now you are just lying.

You also don't even get how democracy works. Israel is not a dictatorship. For something to be Israeli law it has to be supported by a majority in the Knesset. Not one guy, no matter who he is.

The reality is that Israel has made reasonable offers to exchange the land in which the settlements exist for equally good land elsewhere.

The Palestinians walked away from those talks, not the Israelis.
 

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I have never been disrespectful to any jew, why are you lying ? All of my replies in this thread were criticizing Israel politics.
See the thread on how modern antisemites pretend to criticize "Zionists" and "Israelis" because they know they will get caned if they say what they mean.

Your gross misstatements of Israel and its policies aren't fooling anybody.
 

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So if you criticize the occupation of Ukraine by Russian regime ,would you be considered a russian hater ?
If you did it but constantly posting one dishonest misrepresentation after another and refusing to admit when you were wrong, sure.
 

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This gets even more confusing.

I asked you about the Arabs in the West Bank. Is it your position that they were denied Israeli citizenship, that they had citizenship but it was revoked, or that they have citizenship and it is going to be revoked.

You have stated all three positions in various posts. Which is it?
 
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