Blue Jays 2012

[Perry Mason]

Well, now that I have watched a few games...

"Very interesting"... as in too early in the season to tell anything, but had the BJ's vaunted 8th and 9th inning pitching -- their most reliable strength -- not fallen down, they could just as easily have been 8 & 1 as 5 & 4.

Their 3 new regulars -- Lawrie, Johnson and Rasmus -- are a huge improvement over last year/s and showing more than merely flashes of real greatness. And their two additions to the starting pitching -- Alvarez ad Drabek -- are looking great.

Now, if they can just get all cylinders firing with reasonable consistency we could have a post season after all!

Exciting -- even if frustrating -- team to watch.

Perry

 

[mightymouse007]

Bautista needs to step it up, and our bullpen.

 

[reaper29]

Bautista needs to step it up, and our bullpen.

The season's still young (only 9 games in). Give them some time it will happen.

 

[gcostanza]

Just Plain Awful at catcher, batting a solid .071 OBP .133 Slg .179 and terrible defence.

Travis D'arnaud cannot get to Toronto soon enough.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

I get the feeling John Farrell has helped out with steering Kyle Drabek into being more of a thinking pitcher.
Pretty good article by Jeff Blair today.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/spor...ms-into-thinking-mans-pitcher/article2403102/

 

[shack]

Not Missing You

Alex Rios.........BA--.190
Aaron Hill.........----.194
Johnny Mac.....----.167
Lyle Overbay...----.300
Scott Rolen.....----.121
Vernon Wells...----.229

 

[gww]

Alex Rios.........BA--.190
Aaron Hill.........----.194
Johnny Mac.....----.167
Lyle Overbay...----.300
Scott Rolen.....----.121
Vernon Wells...----.229

To be fair Johnny Mac's value was never in his bat. The others get paid to hit as well.

 

[Dawgger]

Alex Rios.........BA--.190
Aaron Hill.........----.194
Johnny Mac.....----.167
Lyle Overbay...----.300
Scott Rolen.....----.121
Vernon Wells...----.229

too early to start looking at MLB stats. Look at the Blue Jays, their averages, for the most part, suck. One good game at the plate and those batting averages move way up.

 

[HandsomeB]

I gave up watching Toronto sport teams years ago... Raptors Suck.. Leafs Suck.. Blue Jays SUCK too and TFC, TFWHAT THE FUCK!?!@?!.. year after year of disappointment yet sucker fans still buy fuckin' tickets. These teams' owners dont give a shit as long as sucker fans keep buying the tickets, watching them on tv and buying their merchandise. Toronto's just gonna continue SUCKING!

 

[shack]

I gave up watching Toronto sport teams years ago... Raptors Suck.. Leafs Suck.. Blue Jays SUCK too and TFC, TFWHAT THE FUCK!?!@?!.. year after year of disappointment yet sucker fans still buy fuckin' tickets. These teams' owners dont give a shit as long as sucker fans keep buying the tickets, watching them on tv and buying their merchandise. Toronto's just gonna continue SUCKING!

Thanks for your insightful contribution.

 

[shack]

too early to start looking at MLB stats. Look at the Blue Jays, their averages, for the most part, suck. One good game at the plate and those batting averages move way up.

Aside from Overbay whose numbers do you think will change by more than 50 points?

 

[Dawgger]

Aside from Overbay whose numbers do you think will change by more than 50 points?

Rolen

 

[BottomsUp]

Good game tonite. Great defense as usual, and very good relief pitching. Good to see them hold the lead in the late innings and Santos looked solid. Got a lot of mileage from a fairly low number of hits. Great to see Bautista and Lind go deep. Tomorrow will be tough against Price.

 

[shack]

Rolen

And that still may keep him well below .200

 

[mightymouse007]

Longoria with 3 errors tonight!

 

[shack]

He's much more sure handed doing commercials.

 

[Dawgger]

Alex Rios.........BA--.190
Aaron Hill.........----.194
Johnny Mac.....----.167
Lyle Overbay...----.300
Scott Rolen.....----.121
Vernon Wells...----.229

using your train of thought Blue Jays may as well scrap the year, Escobar .208, Rasmus .200, Bautista .222, Arencebia .062 not to mention Santos 2 blown saves and an ERA of 9.00.

I still say too early for MLB stats. One good week for a team or an individual can change those numbers dramatically this early in the season.

 

[shack]

using your train of thought Blue Jays may as well scrap the year, Escobar .208, Rasmus .200, Bautista .222, Arencebia .062 not to mention Santos 2 blown saves and an ERA of 9.00.

I still say too early for MLB stats. One good week for a team or an individual can change those numbers dramatically this early in the season.

Those former Jays have posted at least one full season with numbers close to those. The Jays you listed all have much better potential to improve their stats than the castoffs aside from maybe Rasmus and at much lower cost.

Would you really want any of them back? As much as Wells, Hill, Overbay and J Mac are all fine men they were good dumpings.

 

[dj1470]

using your train of thought Blue Jays may as well scrap the year, Escobar .208, Rasmus .200, Bautista .222, Arencebia .062 not to mention Santos 2 blown saves and an ERA of 9.00.

Put nothing into baseball stats until guys have played at least 30 games and had 100 at-bats.
Escobar, Rasmus, and Bautista will be fine given more at-bats.
I mean right now if any of them go 3-4 or 4-4 in one game their average will jump 30-40 points overnight.
The one I worry about is Arencibia - he looks completely lost right now at the plate.

 

[Dawgger]

Those former Jays have posted at least one full season with numbers close to those. The Jays you listed all have much better potential to improve their stats than the castoffs aside from maybe Rasmus and at much lower cost.

Would you really want any of them back? As much as Wells, Hill, Overbay and J Mac are all fine men they were good dumpings.

At no time have I defended these players. No, I don't want them back nor do I expect to see them back. Like most Blue Jay fans I was a huge supporter of Johnny Mac and I especially wish him well.

Put nothing into baseball stats until guys have played at least 30 games and had 100 at-bats.
Escobar, Rasmus, and Bautista will be fine given more at-bats.
I mean right now if any of them go 3-4 or 4-4 in one game their average will jump 30-40 points overnight.
The one I worry about is Arencibia - he looks completely lost right now at the plate.

Exactly!!!