In many natural systems that I have observed, when there is a transition from one state to another, it is not a smooth transition nor is it an instantaneous transition. Probably in the near future, the AMOC will disappear and then reappear strongly, then disappear then reappear less strongly, rinse in repeat until the AMOC has totally disappeared.
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Good point. For example, I think we are the 3rd version of humanoids. The first two versions died out. Who knows. We could die out and eventually be replaced by the 4th version of humanoids.
And we will live in some sick sad world where instead of man spanking the monkey, monkey will spank the man.
I don't see that as being an example. The oscillatory movement of stock prices from one support level to another is probably the best example I can think of that is common. The best example I know of would be in engineering when you need to control something; position, speed, temperature, voltage, etc... many control algorithms will overcorrect and then undercorrect over a few cycles gradually settling on the final value
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And if emission is not halved by 2030 that very vocal minority are the
ones to blame.
Keeping up pressure on our government to take climate actions
for real, raising awareness of the public of the climate crisis and
encouraging more young kids to join Greta's climate movement.
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why ?
, there is no empirical scientific evidence that proves AGW
there is a very vocal minority pushing the climate alarmism
a very vocal minority who ignore the physical fundamental and does everything they can to obfuscate including posting stories about emaciated polar bears, acidic oceans , forest fires , hurricanes, drought and floods
emission's will not be halved by 2030 and no one should be blamed for consuming the energy required to survive and prosper
Until recently Trudeau and climate warrior colleagues have implicated
the Harper administration as the one responsible for Canada's climate
record on emission. Someone will have to be scapegoated near the end
of Trudeau's final term as PM to convince voters rising emission beyond
where it was under Harper is not the fault of the Liberals. Most likely
Alberta will take the blame although Steven Guilbeault will find every
excuse to support deep water drilling in Newfoundland into 2050's.
If you have followed what Steven Guilbeault have said in public closely
you would have to make an effort not to believe he is expecting net emission
is to be halved and eventually brought down to zero around 2050 for real.
The guy is either a very good actor or a shameless liar.
The next hurricane(s) reaching Atlantic shores will likely be more intense and deadlier if triple digit sea temps persist.
Warning of a forthcoming collapse of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation - Nature Communications
The Atlantic meridional overturning circulation (AMOC) is a major tipping element in the climate system. Here, data-driven estimators for the time of tipping predict a potential AMOC collapse mid-century under the current emission scenario.www.nature.com
Like a hot tub: Water temperatures off Florida soar over 100 degrees
A buoy near Manatee Bay recorded an astounding 101.1-degree water temperature Monday, a temperature common for hot tubs.
As a little wee kid watching Planet of the Apes, I remember getting my first hard-on seeing Nova. She was such a cutie. I grabbed my stuffed monkey and beat the shit out of it!!!And we will live in some sick sad world where instead of man spanking the monkey, monkey will spank the man.
Certainly not entirely. But will they have stood in the way of greater progress? No doubt.
Whether heat is "dissolved in", or absorbed by, or transferred to surface ocean or whether you debate CO2 as a "pollutant" (of course it is not a pollutant in the sense mercuryThe next hurricane(s) reaching Atlantic shores will likely be more intense and deadlier if triple digit sea temps persist.
Like a hot tub: Water temperatures off Florida soar over 100 degrees
A buoy near Manatee Bay recorded an astounding 101.1-degree water temperature Monday, a temperature common for hot tubs.www.nbcnews.com
or arsenic in rivers are pollutants) there is no denying that dumping excessive quantities of GHGs into the atmosphere traps solar energy.
Just as CO2 is essential to life, so is H2O. But try sloshing a bucket full into your houseplant and watch the results over a few weeks. Or imagine if water fills your lungs.
No quanta of semantic quibbling will fool a $0.99 therrmometer from the dollar store. Ocean temperatures matter.
Could hurricanes become less intense in the near future if Trump runs
for reelection and defeats Biden in 2024? So far Trump has the better
climate record and no sign Biden wants to bring down carbon emission.
Opinion | Biden Beating Trump on Oil Production
The current president's energy policies have thus far resulted in higher oil production than at any point in U.S. history.
www.wsj.com
Biden, Trump et al are politicians. Their focus is the next election. And politicians perforce contradict themselves because of changing events. Energy Secretay urges oilcosCould hurricanes become less intense in the near future if Trump runs
for reelection and defeats Biden in 2024? So far Trump has the better
climate record and no sign Biden wants to bring down carbon emission.
Opinion | Biden Beating Trump on Oil Production
The current president's energy policies have thus far resulted in higher oil production than at any point in U.S. history.
to drill, drill, drill, while Climate Czar John Kerry flies around pleading the contrary. Even our own Prime Minister felt compelled to buy a pipeline.
The disaster if Trump is elected will be immediate. Climate works on a slower scale, exponentially.
In triple digit temps you can float around for a while then jump out and let your body cool down via evaporation. It is impossible to "swim" in any meaningful sense
of the word. Fifty strokes and you'll be short of breath and gasping.
Good luck on your beach-combing.
Yes, these things are often chaotic and non-linear. It's part of what makes it so difficult to model.
It doesn't appear necessary for the AMOC to disappear, though, to have a huge effect. Just slowing down enough is likely to be disruptive to established weather patterns. A complete halt would be much more dramatic. (From what I understand.)
Could hurricanes become less intense in the near future if Trump runs
for reelection and defeats Biden in 2024? So far Trump has the better
climate record and no sign Biden wants to bring down carbon emission.
Opinion | Biden Beating Trump on Oil Production
The current president's energy policies have thus far resulted in higher oil production than at any point in U.S. history.
You have to be trolling!
