Who are you go to vote for ??

Which party are you going to vote for

  • Conservative

    Votes: 43 32.6%
  • Liberals

    Votes: 40 30.3%
  • NDP

    Votes: 40 30.3%
  • Green

    Votes: 3 2.3%
  • other

    Votes: 4 3.0%
  • Not going to vote

    Votes: 2 1.5%

  • Total voters
    132
  • Poll closed .

Polaris

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The NDP will fight to kill the Senate, the Liberals have offered the NDP Senators in the past and been refused by the NDP, dispite your charicture of the NDP, the NDP hates the fucking Senate with a passion, Mulcair has made it his mission in life to kill the fucking thing.
That is a noble idea from the NDP.

However, that is where the story ends, or gets interesting depending on one's world view.

If the NDP kills the senate, they would take the money saved for themselves, their friends, then a social program for the little people.

If they kill the senate, I fully expect them to return the money to the taxpayer in terms of rebates or massive tax cuts.

Killing the senate and not giving back the money to the taxpayer, same difference.

That's the difference between the NDP and a real conservative.

The Liberals, hard to say. At first, they probably call some sort of hearing, or commission some baseless report penned by one of their friends, or one of Trudeau's friends, apparently he has lots of them and they always win the nomination, especially the phantom votes is awesome. After many delays, after killing the senate, and careful consulations with their friends, they will return some money and take some money.

That's the Liberals.

:hippie:
 

bver_hunter

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Nov 5, 2005
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That is a noble idea from the NDP.

However, that is where the story ends, or gets interesting depending on one's world view.

If the NDP kills the senate, they would take the money saved for themselves, their friends, then a social program for the little people.

If they kill the senate, I fully expect them to return the money to the taxpayer in terms of rebates or massive tax cuts.

Killing the senate and not giving back the money to the taxpayer, same difference.

That's the difference between the NDP and a real conservative.

The Liberals, hard to say. At first, they probably call some sort of hearing, or commission some baseless report penned by one of their friends, or one of Trudeau's friends, apparently he has lots of them and they always win the nomination, especially the phantom votes is awesome. After many delays, after killing the senate, and careful consulations with their friends, they will return some money and take some money.

That's the Liberals.

:hippie:
And the Conns and their Senator friends will continue to embezzle the taxpayers.
 

fmahovalich

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Aug 21, 2009
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Now the real polling..and the people paying attention..will start in Sept.

As to this poll, in a Liberal Left Environment, Harper still leads.

Very curious
 

MattRoxx

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Nov 13, 2011
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From the Globe and Mail:

Stephen Harper is a driven man, all agree, consumed by searing resentment and anger against Eastern Canada. So everyone knows what he is. But no one knows why he is that.

Maybe it doesn’t matter. In his new book, called definitively Stephen Harper, journalist John Ibbitson writes: “The government is autocratic and secretive because it reflects the personality and world view of the Prime Minister.” And again: “The government is autocratic and secretive because it reflects the personality and world view of the Prime Minister.”

So it’s perfectly reasonable to say that what drives our Prime Minister is much less important than the fact that he is driven, and in a direction that’s largely bad for the country. When you read the recent memoirs of Messrs. Mulcair and Trudeau, as I’ve reported in recent weeks, one learns disappointingly little about Justin Trudeau and quite a bit about Tom Mulcair. From Mr. Ibbitson’s book, you learn that even conservative-minded writers find much that is either mystifying or unpalatable about our Prime Minister, or both. And that includes both his personality and his works.

Still, curious people inevitably like to know why people believe and act as they do. We believe in cause and effect. As everyone knows who’s read any of the many books written about the Prime Minister, he was raised in placid, privileged suburban Toronto by doting comfortable parents. How he emerged as a mean-spirited, paranoid Albertan, deeply angry at the elites of Eastern Canada but yet perfectly at home with their powerful Albertan tar-sands counterparts, still remains inexplicable.
...
Here’s Mr. Flanagan on working with Mr. Harper: “He can be suspicious, secretive and vindictive, prone to sudden eruptions of white-hot rage over meaningless trivia. … I feared, as I still do, that he might some day bring himself down Nixon-style by pushing too hard against the network of rules constraining authority in a constitutional government. … [Like Richard Nixon, he] believes in playing politics right up to the edge of the rules, which inevitably means some team members will step across ethical or legal lines in their desire to win for the Boss.”

To which Mr. Ibbitson adds: “There are disagreeable aspects to Stephen Harper’s personality …He can fly off the handle … He is suspicious of others … this closed, repressed personality is capable of lashing out from time to time … his legendary temper. He can descend into rages, sometimes over trivial things. … His personality also comes out in the tactics that the Conservative Party uses against enemies – which are, in a word, ruthless.”
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But if I were on the hustings in the next few weeks, I’d have great fun hoisting Mr. Harper with John ibbitson’s petard. After all, he cites many (though by no means all) of the reasons Mr. Harper’s critics claim that he has undermined Canadian democracy. Indeed, Mr. Ibbitson himself questions whether the Harper government has been “autocratic, secretive and cruel,” and answers: “Yes, sometimes,” giving as an example that “The omnibus bills were bad bills. They abused the parliamentary process.”

Then I’d share with my audience Mr. Ibbitson’s outrage at Mr. Harper for: one, his government’s decision to deep-six the long-form census, a decision he attributes to the Prime Minister alone; and two, the PM’s gratuitous attack on the integrity of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. Any opposition audience would be on their feet cheering when hearing Mr. Ibbitson’s conclusion that in his criticism of Beverley McLachlin “the Prime Minister had set a dangerous precedent, undermining the separation of executive and judiciary powers on which the whole democratic system of government is based.”

So this latest election-time book may well end up finding a more prominent place in the actual campaign than either of the memoirs of the leaders of the opposition. With his legendary terrible temper, Mr. Harper will not be amused.
 

ogibowt

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Aug 3, 2008
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Now the real polling..and the people paying attention..will start in Sept.

As to this poll, in a Liberal Left Environment, Harper still leads.

Very curious
and just how many women voted in the Terb poll...hardly a constituency sympathetic to Harper....on a site dominated by well to do middle aged men he should be leading by more..
 

squeezer

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Jan 8, 2010
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Now the real polling..and the people paying attention..will start in Sept.

As to this poll, in a Liberal Left Environment, Harper still leads.

Very curious
Looks like the NDP has surpassed the Reformers in here too. LMAO
 

IM469

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Jul 5, 2012
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Wow - even the children's singer Raffi has gone political - sort of - he is on the 'anyone but Harper' bandwagon. He could join the military vets who are protesting Harper's appearances. Military vets singing along with Raffi ... that would be interesting to see.
 

oldjones

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Looks like the NDP has surpassed the Reformers in here too. LMAO
Current totals reflect the same split that handed power to Harper's Rump with less than a third of the overall votes. The only difference this time around (and it's taken us far too long to arrive at it) is that finally the other parties are saying they will not keep him in power just to avoid another election, and will defeat him on the Throne Speech.

Who we do want in power may be unclear, but after a whole series of elections with the Rump unable to move its vote count into anything near majority territory it is abundantly clear who we do not want. Time to get on with some of the other ugly realities of politics and pick the the next least worse.
 

MattRoxx

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Now the real polling..and the people paying attention..will start in Sept.

As to this poll, in a Liberal Left Environment, Harper still leads.

Very curious
You have higher moral and ethical standards for escorts than politicians. Your beloved Cons have committed much worse "bait and switch" than all the Asian agencies in Toronto. They say they'll do something for you and then ask for more time and after keeping you waiting, cancel those plans (eg Senate reform). They've even essentially "banned" you from hobbying (by making it illegal).
Yet you keep going back and supporting them - with your vote.

You need to wake up and see Harper's Cons as the whores they really are, interested in nothing but money (and power) and willing to screw you over with empty promises and fake pictures.

Fake lake http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...l-laughing-stock-liberals-say/article4322130/
Fake citizenship ceremony http://news.nationalpost.com/news/c...fake-citizenship-broadcast-blames-bureaucrats
Fake student program announcement http://thetyee.ca/News/2015/06/29/Photo-Op-Stephen-Harper/

When you support the fakers and the bait-and-switchers, they only become more brazen and blase about their methods.
 

fmahovalich

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Aug 21, 2009
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The poll in TERB continues to have Harper on top.....by a slim margin. The CBC now has Harper on top as well by a slim margin. Enough to win the govt at this point.

NDP have dropped to 3rd, with Liberals making gains in Quebec.
 

someone

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Now the real polling..and the people paying attention..will start in Sept.

As to this poll, in a Liberal Left Environment, Harper still leads.

Very curious
Others have pointed out demographic reasons why Harper does well in a terb poll (e.g, men who can afford SPs don't make a representative sample). However, another reason Harper would do well on terb is that it is it is completely anonymous. The following makes a good argument that many public opinion polls may be underestimating conservative support: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/glob...-behind-opinion-poll-results/article26587805/
Of course, whether they underestimate it enough to have any significant effects on the election outcome remains to be seen.
 
Ashley Madison
Toronto Escorts