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TeeJay

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What happens to all the people who got one AZ shot then? Are they going to keep just enough doses to do second doses there or are they going to recommend mix and match?
I haven't heard a thing about that.
You are implying logistics and planning
Stuff which ON has lacked ever since Ford took office
 

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You are implying logistics and planning
Stuff which ON has lacked ever since Ford took office
Ontario, yes. But the shot procurement is Federal, so the question is what CANADA is going to do with the AZ shots. If we're donating because now we have lots of Pfizer and Moderna I can see putting aside a batch of AZ to cover people who need second shots and not doing anymore first shots. If the idea is just Canada doesn't get AZ anymore and it all goes elsewhere then decisions are going to have to be made. (Although Trudeau could just dodge it and insist each province decide what to do about people with only one shot of AZ.)
 

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Ontario, yes. But the shot procurement is Federal, so the question is what CANADA is going to do with the AZ shots. If we're donating because now we have lots of Pfizer and Moderna I can see putting aside a batch of AZ to cover people who need second shots and not doing anymore first shots. If the idea is just Canada doesn't get AZ anymore and it all goes elsewhere then decisions are going to have to be made. (Although Trudeau could just dodge it and insist each province decide what to do about people with only one shot of AZ.)
I read it as Feds think they over purchased AZ
As such they are going to send the extras away as they are received

Its not a recall where they tell provinces to return any unused batches that were already distributed

Plus in future they would have easier access to surplus AZ as shipped anyhow seeing as they have delayed most peoples second shots so long
 

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I read it as Feds think they over purchased AZ
As such they are going to send the extras away as they are received

Its not a recall where they tell provinces to return any unused batches that were already distributed

Plus in future they would have easier access to surplus AZ as shipped anyhow seeing as they have delayed most peoples second shots so long
They are NOT sending any AZ back. Once again pulling bullshit and nonsense facts out of your ass.
 
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What happens to all the people who got one AZ shot then? Are they going to keep just enough doses to do second doses there or are they going to recommend mix and match?
I haven't heard a thing about that.
Studies involving mixing vaccine doses are underway.
 

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Studies involving mixing vaccine doses are underway.
Hopefully it pans out and doses can be mixed because I have a feeling we are going to have a hard time getting enough AZ in for the second doses with what's going on in India.
 
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Let's say you get Pfizer, then the next shot is AstraZen.

Will the different medicines mix in your body ?

Bonus question: If you get the needle in your left buttock, does the second shot have to be in the right one?
As far as I understand when the medicines mix the following happens: the patient becomes an anti-vaxxer, starts posting anti-vaxxing nonsense on public forums, gets Covid, goes on ventilator and soon thereafter finds peace and expires.
 

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As far as I understand when the medicines mix the following happens: the patient becomes an anti-vaxxer, starts posting anti-vaxxing nonsense on public forums, gets Covid, goes on ventilator and soon thereafter finds peace and expires.
Maybe the vaccine caused people to expire?

That's what your saying.
 

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They are NOT sending any AZ back. Once again pulling bullshit and nonsense facts out of your ass.
Dummy you just repeated EXACTLY what I said
Way to prove the reading ability though
 

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TJ may be off on saying do this wait time jump with mixing doses but I don’t see how he is wrong on getting doubled doses with the AZ.

I have an appointment at one place. 2 weeks from now I get an appointment doing the AZ at a second place. What’s to stop people from doing this now and avoiding a possible shortage in 4 months?

However India is going through some serious shit now but I think in 4 months things will have calmed down so shipments will resume.
 
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TJ may be off on saying do this wait time jump with mixing doses but I don’t see how he is wrong on getting doubled doses with the AZ.

I have an appointment at one place. 2 weeks from now I get an appointment doing the AZ at a second place. What’s to stop people from doing this now and avoiding a possible shortage in 4 months?

However India is going through some serious shit now but I think in 4 months things will have calmed down so shipments will resume.
There might be legal consequences to doing that. People have been arrested for jumping the line and getting a vaccine meant for someone else before, though that was when the vaccines were just arriving and being distributed to vulnerable individuals. Since they record your health card, it's possible they'll check the records, see you've gotten 2 first doses and you might have to deal with the cops later. Of course, you won't know for sure unless you try. They may just fine you instead, or cancel your second dose appointments and give them to someone else. I don't know.
 
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There might be legal consequences to doing that. People have been arrested for jumping the line and getting a vaccine meant for someone else before, though that was when the vaccines were just arriving and being distributed to vulnerable individuals. Since they record your health card, it's possible they'll check the records, see you've gotten 2 first doses and you might have to deal with the cops later. Of course, you won't know for sure unless you try. They may just fine you instead, or cancel your second dose appointments and give them to someone else. I don't know.

I can see this if you book two appointmnts but with walk-ins available at the end of the day for some places, I can see it being easy to get a second dose without really jumping the line. The doses would be trashed. Better in an arm then a garbage.

I asked when getting my shot and the guy said they prefer you get your second shot at the same place to ensure identical processes and proceedures, and for continuity sake. I was also given a prescription for my second shot. My next appointment is booked for 3 months. It is tenative based on supply. He said it could be sooner and they book 3 months incase it is later and they hope it can stay in the 4 motnh timeline. So at least they are thinking.

I heard that the US is givien 60 M of AZ to other countries, Canada included so I don’t think AZ dose supply is going to be an issue.
 

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I read it as Feds think they over purchased AZ -
As such they are going to send the extras away as they are received and more bullshit


Its not a recall where they tell provinces to return any unused batches that were already distributed

Plus in future they would have easier access to surplus AZ as shipped anyhow seeing as they have delayed most peoples second shots so long
You posted this


They are NOT sending any AZ back. Once again pulling bullshit and nonsense facts out of your ass.

I responded with this

Dummy you just repeated EXACTLY what I said
Way to prove the reading ability though
Now will the REAL DUMMY please stand up, please stand up , please stand up

HINT- I am firmly planted in my comfy office chair and it's not me who will be standing up!!
 
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TJ may be off on saying do this wait time jump with mixing doses but I don’t see how he is wrong on getting doubled doses with the AZ.

I have an appointment at one place. 2 weeks from now I get an appointment doing the AZ at a second place. What’s to stop people from doing this now and avoiding a possible shortage in 4 months?

However India is going through some serious shit now but I think in 4 months things will have calmed down so shipments will resume.
TJ is encouraging folks to do this now when the testing hasn't been finalized. Yes, they are leaning towards being able to mix Moderna and Pfizer as they are from the same family of vaccines but AZ is not so it would be foolish before the true experts give the green light to do so.

I myself have taken the AZ and would love to the second hit with one of the MRNA vaccines save and allows for better efficacy provided someone like Dr. Fauci or a reputable body within the medical community after testing gives it the green light.
 

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TJ is encouraging folks to do this now when the testing hasn't been finalized. Yes, they are leaning towards being able to mix Moderna and Pfizer as they are from the same family of vaccines but AZ is not so it would be foolish before the true experts give the green light to do so.

I myself have taken the AZ and would love to the second hit with one of the MRNA vaccines save and allows for better efficacy provided someone like Dr. Fauci or a reputable body within the medical community after testing gives it the green light.
C'mon, just do what TeeJay says. He's got insight, wisdom and his finger on the pulse. He's to be trusted more than anyone in the health and science field. He's a freakin' genius for God's sake! :eek:o_O:ROFLMAO:
 

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TJ is encouraging folks to do this now when the testing hasn't been finalized. Yes, they are leaning towards being able to mix Moderna and Pfizer as they are from the same family of vaccines but AZ is not so it would be foolish before the true experts give the green light to do so.

I myself have taken the AZ and would love to the second hit with one of the MRNA vaccines save and allows for better efficacy provided someone like Dr. Fauci or a reputable body within the medical community after testing gives it the green light.

I was talking about doing what he suggested but not mixing. Just using the ploy to jump the line and get the second shot of the AZ.


I wouldn’t mix. I won’t mix even if possible. I will get the second AZ and then when you need a booster in a year - then I may switch to mRNA vaccine.
 

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There might be legal consequences to doing that. People have been arrested for jumping the line and getting a vaccine meant for someone else before, though that was when the vaccines were just arriving and being distributed to vulnerable individuals. Since they record your health card, it's possible they'll check the records, see you've gotten 2 first doses and you might have to deal with the cops later. Of course, you won't know for sure unless you try. They may just fine you instead, or cancel your second dose appointments and give them to someone else. I don't know.
Noone was arrested in this country for jumping lines

They were arrested for side effects of it

eg BC Couple flies to Yukon to get first crack at vaccine by lying where they plan to work; their arrest was for violating Quarantine requirements.
Group said they planned to drive through Canada to get to US but stopped off (illegally) to get vaccine at pharmacy.

If you have a source for any actual arrests go ahead but beyond moral issues there is no actual law being broken
(not all places even ask for health card number when you go on waiting lists either so I doubt they would notice it before you go in)

That's weird how your shot went
Hospitals will book 1st and 2nd shot at same time I have seen (eg when you are scheduled you get dates for both shots)
Maybe pharmacy are diff