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Sonic Temple

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Love it - 'safe as cabbage' - I take 2000 IU per day personally. Great post my friend - thanks.
 

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Love it - 'safe as cabbage' - I take 2000 IU per day personally. Great post my friend - thanks.
Smart move. I don't take it in the summer but from about Oct 1 to March 30 I take 4,000 IU per day. Been doing so since before Covid.
 

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My doc said 1,000 units per day is sufficient. Why are you guys taking so much more?
 

Sonic Temple

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My doc said 1,000 units per day is sufficient. Why are you guys taking so much more?
I was talking that before mate - but the doc said to up as my levels were still low. I have a blood test coming up so kinda curious where the levels would be now.
 
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Love it - 'safe as cabbage' - I take 2000 IU per day personally. Great post my friend - thanks.
Smart move. I don't take it in the summer but from about Oct 1 to March 30 I take 4,000 IU per day. Been doing so since before Covid.
My doc said 1,000 units per day is sufficient. Why are you guys taking so much more?
I presently take 4500 IU per day.

Had my blood levels checked on Jan 24th

25hydoxyvitamin D Reference Range 75-250 nmol....My result was 171.8.....Should specify that this was with LifeLabs

So to Darts...Unless you get blood work done you will not know if you are in range or not. I've taken 10000 IU per day and waited 3 months before getting tested in the past and my level was 225. In other words I still wasn't out of the range. In the summer I drop to 2000 IU per day.
 

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Dr. Nurse educator says something and the puppets lap it up. Any of you take the time to look at the study he quotes?

It's nothing new. Vitamin D deficiency decreases the functioning of the immune system. But I'm sure that that youtube grifter convinced you that vitamin D is a better treatment than actual medicine.
 

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Of course we've been saying this from the beginning.....
Is this John Campbell, the notorious bullshit COVID denier grifter?

This stuff is total bullshit and the guy is a 100% griftsketch.


COVID-19 pandemic

Further information: COVID-19 misinformation

In early 2020 Campbell's YouTube channel started to focus on the developing COVID-19 pandemic.[11] Until then, his videos had been receiving an average of several thousand views each, but his channel began to receive significant traffic after it started running COVID-related videos.[10] Between February and March 2020, his channel increased from an average of 500,000 views per month to 9.6 million, mostly from American viewers.[12] By September 2020, his videos had been viewed more than 50 million times.[13] In March 2020, he argued that China's COVID-19 statistics were grossly underestimated and that the US and UK were doing too little to contain COVID-19.[8] In September 2020, he argued that more ventilation in pubs, restaurants, and cafes would be needed in addition to the existing restrictions.[14]

Early in the pandemic, Campbell spoke of the importance of a "calm and measured approach that is as informed as possible".[15] He said he wanted to assist people in making informed decisions about their health in order to counter what he saw as other people on social media "spreading absolutely bonkers—and sometimes dangerous—information".[12] In August 2020, UNICEF's regional office for Europe and Central Asia cited his YouTube channel as an excellent example of how experts might engage with social media to combat misinformation,[16] citing a March 2020 briefing by Social Science in Humanitarian Action.[17]

In August 2022 David Gorski wrote for Science-Based Medicine that while at the beginning of the pandemic Campbell had "seemed semi-reasonable", he later became a "total COVID-19 crank".[2]

Needle aspiration

In September 2021, Campbell said in a video that he believed that most people in the United Kingdom and United States were "giving the vaccines wrongly". Referencing a study on mice, he said that myocarditis could be caused if the person injecting the vaccine does not perform aspiration (checking that the needle does not hit a blood vessel by initially drawing back the plunger). Aspiration is a common technique but is not without disadvantages, so it has not been recommended by many countries.[18] The video was referenced by American comedian Jimmy Dore on his YouTube talk show to make the misleading claim that a failure to aspirate was causing myocarditis.[19]

Ivermectin

Further information: Ivermectin during the COVID-19 pandemic

In November 2021, Campbell said in a video that ivermectin—an antiparasitic drug—might have been responsible for a sudden decline in COVID-19 cases in Japan. However, the drug had never been officially authorised for such use in the country; its use was merely promoted by the chair of a non-governmental medical association in Tokyo and it has no established benefit as a COVID-19 treatment.[20] Meaghan Kall, the lead COVID-19 epidemiologist at the British Health Security Agency, said that Campbell was confusing causation and correlation and that there was no evidence of ivermectin being used in large numbers in Japan, rather that his claims appeared to be "based on anecdata on social media driving wildly damaging misinformation".[20]

In March 2022, Campbell posted another ivermectin video, in which he misrepresented a conference abstract to make the claim that it "unequivocally" showed ivermectin to be effective at reducing COVID-19 deaths, and that ivermectin was going to be a "huge scandal" because information about it had been suppressed. The authors of the abstract refuted such misrepresentations of their paper, with one writing on Twitter, "People like John Campbell are calling this a 'great thought out study' when in reality it's an abstract with preliminary data. We have randomized controlled trials, why are we still interested in retrospective cohort data abstracts?"[21]

Vaccines

In November 2021, Campbell quoted from a non-peer-reviewed standalone journal abstract by Steven Gundry saying that mRNA vaccines might increase the risk of heart attack, and said that this might be "incredibly significant".[4] This video was viewed over 2 million times within a few weeks and was used by anti-vaccination activists as support for the misinformation that COVID-19 vaccination causes heart attacks.[4] According to a FactCheck.org review, although Campbell had drawn attention to the abstract's typos and its lack of methodology and data, he did not mention the expression of concern that had been issued against it.[4]

In March 2022, Campbell posted a misleading video about the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, claiming that a Pfizer document admitted that the vaccine was associated with over 1,000 deaths. The video was viewed over 750,000 times and shared widely on social media. In reality, the document explicitly discredited any connection between vaccinations and reported deaths.[3]

In July 2022, Campbell gave an error-filled account of an article published in the New England Journal of Medicine and falsely claimed that it showed the risk to children from COVID-19 vaccination was much greater than the risk of getting seriously ill from COVID-19 itself. The video received over 700,000 views. The article actually showed that COVID-19 vaccination greatly reduced the risk of children getting seriously ill from COVID-19.[22]

In December 2022 Campbell posted a video in which he made selective use of statistics to make the misleading claim that COVID-19 vaccines were so harmful that they should be withdrawn. The paper he used was in reality only considering hospitalisations from COVID-19 in a short time window, and not the overall vaccine risk/benefit balance. David Spiegelhalter, chair of Cambridge University's Winton Centre for Risk and Evidence Communication, said that such use of the data seemed "entirely inappropriate".[23]

Death count

A popular misconception throughout the pandemic has been that deaths have been over-reported.[5] In January 2022, Campbell posted a video in which he cited figures from the British Office of National Statistics (ONS) and suggested that they showed deaths from COVID-19 were "much lower than mainstream media seems to have been intimating". He concentrated on a figure of 17,371 death certificates showing only COVID-19 as the cause of death. Within a few days, the video had been viewed over 1.5 million times.[24] It was shared by Conservative Party politician David Davis, who called it "excellent" and said that it was "disentangling the statistics",[5] while American comedian Jimmy Dore used it to claim that COVID-19 deaths had been over-reported and that the figures proved that the public had been victims of a "scaremongering campaign".[25] The ONS responded by debunking the claims as spurious and wrong.[26] An ONS spokesman said suggesting that the 17,000 figure "represents the real extent of deaths from the virus is both factually incorrect and highly misleading".[25] The official figure for COVID-19-related deaths in the UK for the period was over 175,000 at the time; in 140,000 of those cases, the underlying cause of death was listed as COVID-19.[5][27]

Monkeypox parallels

In July 2022, Campbell posted a video in which he promoted the misleading idea that "parallels" could be drawn between the SARS-CoV-2 virus which causes COVID-19 and the 2022 monkeypox outbreak because "both pathogens were being studied in laboratories" prior to an outbreak. The misinformation was embraced by American comedian Jimmy Dore and achieved wide circulation on social media, marking the third time Dore had used a Campbell video to spread COVID-19 misinformation.[28]
 
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mandrill

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Of course we've been saying this from the beginning.....
Of course "we" have. You re-post pretty much every COVID misinformation grift that's ever been done and recommend it to the board.
 

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Of course "we" have. You re-post pretty much every COVID misinformation grift that's ever been done and recommend it to the board.
Like usually you are full of shit.
Peak Prosperity is quotin clinical studies proved vitamins D do decrease mortality rate from covid 19.

 

mandrill

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LoL wikipedia … If you use wikipedia as a source in college/ university you get an F.
Any Wikipedia lost all credibility went they said Hunter Biden laptop is fake Or Russian disinformation !
Vitamin D is nonsense and John Campbell is a notorious fraud, Addy.
 

mandrill

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Like usually you are full of shit.
Peak Prosperity is quotin clinical studies proved vitamins D do decrease mortality rate from covid 19.

Peak Prosperity are the biggest grifters out there, Addy. You've been gulled and mulled.
 

The Oracle

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LoL wikipedia … If you use wikipedia as a source in college/ university you get an F.
Any Wikipedia lost all credibility went they said Hunter Biden laptop is fake Or Russian disinformation !
Exactly!....I always advise everybody who asked to get regular blood work and with that to get your vitamin D levels checked.

It's actions are being viewed more as a hormone these days than as a vitamin. It's imperative that one be in range.
 

basketcase

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Like usually you are full of shit.
Peak Prosperity is quotin clinical studies proved vitamins D do decrease mortality rate from covid 19.
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Which is far, far different that the followers who think this means vitamin D prevents or cures it. The study proves what we've all known, generally healthy people are at less risk of serious consequences. That's it.
 

basketcase

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p.s. Funny to see people championing vitamin D as a panacea against covid because healthy levels show some ability to help reduce serious negative outcomes while rejecting the vaccine that has extensively been proven to significantly reduce those same impacts.
 

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Wait.
We're pretending that study is "definitive" now?
 
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