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Skoob

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So you own Tampons and Crack Pipes. Well brave of you to admit it!! 😄 😆😂🤣
Here...I'll type slower so you can read things clearer...."Recognize" ....is very different than ..."own".
Just a reminder...I wasn't the one who posted that pic....you were.
 
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He also got COVID during that period. And, while the mind might be willing, the body might not be able. So, while he might have wanted to keep going, he realized it was in the country's best interest to step aside. That's real leadership.

As for the definition of coup, the Oxford Dictionary, which is the gold standard, defines it as: a sudden, violent, and unlawful seizure of power from a government. Which....this was none of the above. Harris didn't illegally boot Biden from office, nor was it violent or an unlawful seizure.

As for Emhoff and the allegations....Yes, it is concerning. But, as mentioned, it doesn't change the fact that he is not running for office. And, it isn't like this hasn't been covered by the MSM. Finally, they are allegations. I'm not going to say one way of another if he did or did not do what they claim....But, I am also more sceptical about allegations that appear in the Daily Mail (or Daily Fail as many call it). Who's to say this isn't a plant, they couldn't find anything on Harris so they went after her husband. And, the fact of the matter is the Republican candidate has multiple accusations of sexual assault...but that doesn't seem to bother MAGA....
ah yes the Covid excuse...another good one to explain why he said himself he was ready and good to continue and then overnight wasn't.
Are we comparing multiple dictionaries now? I provided a definition, so did you...it's subjective but my point is the same...it's obvious he didn't willfully "step aside". There was no election process when he did.

You know very well that if the shoe was on the other foot, the left would be having strokes over this stuff. If you can't see that, I can't really help you.
 

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Here...I'll type slower so you can read things clearer...."Recognize" ....is very different than ..."own".
Just a reminder...I wasn't the one who posted that pic....you were.
I might as well remind you that you were the one spotting some stuff that reminds you of the tampons and crack pipe that you are very familiar with!!
That is although those are unlikely to be either of those stuff that you made up!! But then you believe all the conspiracy theories, so that is not very surprising!!
 
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So you were bragging when you decided to share a pic of your tv stand with us?
Once again another fake allegation as that is NOT MY TV STAND.
Same lies that you once made up that Frankfooter and I are supposed to be the same person........ROTFLMAO!!
 

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What Biden said is 100% true here:

The issue is the large downward revision in the employment numbers months in August. It should call into question the Bureau of Labor's accuracy.


Some election watchers also noted the Fed cutting rates by 50 basis points right before the election was a bit large. 25 basis points is a normal step. This is also very questionable because if the job numbers are accurate the 50 basis point cut looks very premature.
 
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As for the definition of coup, the Oxford Dictionary, which is the gold standard, defines it as: a sudden, violent, and unlawful seizure of power from a government. Which....this was none of the above. Harris didn't illegally boot Biden from office, nor was it violent or an unlawful seizure.
I'm not sure why you are continuing to quibble over the word "coup". Everyone knows what it means and we know it is routinely applied to nonviolent changes in power.

You're citing Oxford dictionary as the gold standard, but for some reason ignoring their guidance. The Oxford Learner's Dictionary noted the usage "She lost her position in a boardroom coup (= a sudden change of power among senior managers in a company)."
 
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I might as well remind you that you were the one spotting some stuff that reminds you of the tampons and crack pipe that you are very familiar with!!
That is although those are unlikely to be either of those stuff that you made up!! But then you believe all the conspiracy theories, so that is not very surprising!!
"Spotting some stuff" in a photo YOU posted.
 
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Once again another fake allegation as that is NOT MY TV STAND.
Same lies that you once made up that Frankfooter and I are supposed to be the same person........ROTFLMAO!!
Those weren't lies...those were opinions and accusations. Very different.
Now go tidy up your place, it's a mess!
 
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ah yes the Covid excuse...another good one to explain why he said himself he was ready and good to continue and then overnight wasn't.
Are we comparing multiple dictionaries now? I provided a definition, so did you...it's subjective but my point is the same...it's obvious he didn't willfully "step aside". There was no election process when he did.

You know very well that if the shoe was on the other foot, the left would be having strokes over this stuff. If you can't see that, I can't really help you.
You have no insight into what Biden was thinking when he made his decision. He could have stayed and ran. Maybe he realized he was going to lose, and it was more important that he step aside and let Harris take over. The only reason this is an issue for the right is because she's reinvigorated the Democrats, and Trump isn't able to coast to what most people thought might be an easy victory. But, the fact is, this was not a coup. And, shockingly, the Democratic party is allowed to make their own rules about who is the candidate. And, the fact that Harris is already the VP, and could be president if Biden were incapacitated, makes the transition of candidates easier. She was already on the ticket.

You can keep saying it was a coup but it doesn't make it true.
 
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I'm not sure why you are continuing to quibble over the word "coup". Everyone knows what it means and we know it is routinely applied to nonviolent changes in power.

You're citing Oxford dictionary as the gold standard, but for some reason ignoring their guidance. The Oxford Learner's Dictionary noted the usage "She lost her position in a boardroom coup (= a sudden change of power among senior managers in a company)."
The point here is that there is no evidence that Biden was forced out. The right is doing all they can to pretend Harris is not the legitimate candidate, and I'm sure at some point they'll try the birther movement because both her parents are immigrants...Actually, I've already seen that bullshit on social media....I know it is so outside the right-wings scope to understand a leader can choose to put the country over their ambitions. Biden got sick, realized how taxing it was, and also realized he wasn't polling well. So, is it impossible to believe he felt that the country needed to avoid another Trump term at the cost of him running for re-election? Biden is a decent person who wants to help all Americans, and he sees Trump as a threat to democracy. So, I reject the idea that this was a coup. As I said, no evidence, just rants from the right-wing fever swamp. And they're all butt hurt because they thought they could cruise to an easy victory over Biden. And now the tables have turned, and that campaign has not been effective in slowing Harris's momentum.
 
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The point here is that there is no evidence that Biden was forced out. The right is doing all they can to pretend Harris is not the legitimate candidate, and I'm sure at some point they'll try the birther movement because both her parents are immigrants...Actually, I've already seen that bullshit on social media....I know it is so outside the right-wings scope to understand a leader can choose to put the country over their ambitions. Biden got sick, realized how taxing it was, and also realized he wasn't polling well. So, is it impossible to believe he felt that the country needed to avoid another Trump term at the cost of him running for re-election? Biden is a decent person who wants to help all Americans, and he sees Trump as a threat to democracy. So, I reject the idea that this was a coup. As I said, no evidence, just rants from the right-wing fever swamp. And they're all butt hurt because they thought they could cruise to an easy victory over Biden. And now the tables have turned, and that campaign has not been effective in slowing Harris's momentum.
Biden was forced out. Harris was appointed by the party elders.

What went down went down. People can cheer it or criticize it. However, we don't need lessons spinning what's in the dictionary.
 
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