Only racist fanatics consider having an equal number of Palestinians in your country suicide. The rest of us call it normal.
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Unfortunately, none of this face saving will work. Eventually you had to confirm what I had been asserting along. The IDF has barred Israeli Jews from entering, let alone live in Areas A and B. And the you tried to say it was only recently but it turns out they've been doing it for 14 years.I have already agreed you can "win" your clown game, I established my point that the Palestinians ethnically cleansed all the Jews from that territory. You don't even dispute it, you are just fixated on this irrelevancy.
I can't do anymore to help you. You self destructed.
A bunch of foreigners with no lawful claim to Israeli citizenship whose flooding of Israel is meant as a ploy to overthrow the government and rewrite the constitution.Only racist fanatics consider having an equal number of Palestinians in your country suicide. The rest of us call it normal.
Never going to happen.
You're right. What you've described is never going to happen. But the ethnically cleansed Palestinians are going to exercise their Right of Return. Not only that. They are going to get their property and land back. Do you really think that the dreary racist ideology of zionism will hold back the human tide of freedom?A bunch of foreigners with no lawful claim to Israeli citizenship whose flooding of Israel is meant as a ploy to overthrow the government and rewrite the constitution.
Never going to happen.
There is no right of ancestral return.You're right. What you've described is never going to happen. But the ethnically cleansed Palestinians are going to exercise their Right of Return. Not only that. They are going to get their property and land back. Do you really think that the dreary racist ideology of zionism will hold back the human tide of freedom?
Land rights on the other hand are indeed heritable. The state, however, can expropriate land, and has lawfully expropriated it.
The former owners should receive compensation for their expropriated land once they make peace with Israel.
The right of return is inviolable. They are returning. It will be a great day for universal human rights but a bad day for Zionism.There is no right of ancestral return.
Land rights on the other hand are indeed heritable. The state, however, can expropriate land, and has lawfully expropriated it.
The former owners should receive compensation for their expropriated land once they make peace with Israel.
According to the UN resolution it only needs to be honored for those willing to live at peace. That hasn't happened yet.The right of return is inviolable. They are returning. It will be a great day for universal human rights but a bad day for Zionism.
Someone who was not born in Israel obviously cannot "return" there, has no right to, no right to Israeli citizenship, etc.
They most obviously can return. The right of return is inviolable. And instead of wasting everyone's time, provide us with a real world example where the children of those ethnically cleansed were not allowed to return.According to the UN resolution it only needs to be honored for those willing to live at peace. That hasn't happened yet.
Someone who was not born in Israel obviously cannot "return" there, has no right to, no right to Israeli citizenship, etc.
For once, don't fold.
Two different groups here:They most obviously can return. The right of return is inviolable.
1. people born on Israeli territory
2. their descendants
Group 1, there is a UN resolution making their return conditional on peace.
Group 2 do not have any right to return to Israel, period. Their right of return is to their own country, which is not Israel.
So, you folded again. You can't produce a single real world example where the children of those ethnically cleansed were not allowed to return. So it's just your nutty version again.Two different groups here:
1. people born on Israeli territory
2. their descendants
Group 1, there is a UN resolution making their return conditional on peace.
Group 2 do not have any right to return to Israel, period. Their right of return is to their own country, which is not Israel.
As per usual, I've given you real world examples in previous threads of the children of those who were ethnically cleansed returning.
No one was ethnically cleansed. The right of return also has NOTHING to do with being a refugee.So, you folded again. You can't produce a single real world example where the children of those ethnically cleansed were not allowed to return. So it's just your nutty version again.
As per usual, I've given you real world examples in previous threads of the children of those who were ethnically cleansed returning.
A citizen of Israel who is outside the country has the right to return whether they are on vacation, a refugee, or out of the country for any other reason.
You have shown no reason to believe the descendants of refugees are citizens.
If you can't come up with an example, it's just your nutty version. Plus, you've already admitted they were ethnically cleansed. As has Morris and Rabin.No one was ethnically cleansed. The right of return also has NOTHING to do with being a refugee.
A citizen of Israel who is outside the country has the right to return whether they are on vacation, a refugee, or out of the country for any other reason.
You have shown no reason to believe the descendants of refugees are citizens.
I don't need to come up with an example of non citizens being denied entry. You can visit Pearson airport and see non citizens being denied entry every day. Only citizens have a right to enter.If you can't come up with an example, it's just your nutty version. Plus, you've already admitted they were ethnically cleansed. As has Morris and Rabin.
Oh, capitulation again. You can't produce a single real world example where the children of those ethnically cleansed were not allowed to return. So it's just your nutty version again.I don't need to come up with an example of non citizens being denied entry. You can visit Pearson airport and see non citizens being denied entry every day. Only citizens have a right to enter.
There is no relevance of something like that to anything we are discussing.Oh, capitulation again. You can't produce a single real world example where the children of those ethnically cleansed were not allowed to return. So it's just your nutty version again.
The right of return has nothing to do with being ethnically cleansed. It has to do with having citizenship.
Since you can't produce a single real world example where the children of those ethnically cleansed were not allowed to return, let's see if you can produce anything that says the Right of Return is limited to those having citizenship in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights or the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.There is no relevance of something like that to anything we are discussing.
The right of return has nothing to do with being ethnically cleansed. It has to do with having citizenship.
You will likely fold at this as well.
Since you can't produce a single real world example where the children of those ethnically cleansed were not allowed to return, let's see if you can produce anything that says the Right of Return is limited to those having citizenship in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights or the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.There is no relevance of something like that to anything we are discussing.
The right of return has nothing to do with being ethnically cleansed. It has to do with having citizenship.
You will likely fold at this as well.
First you have to establish that it is your country THEN you have a right to enter.
All your talk of refugees and ethnic cleansing is an irrelevant wild goose chase. The right is inherent to all citizens of a country regardless of why they are outside the country.
The question is are they citizens? If they were born in the territory, likely yes. Otherwise there is no reason to think they are.
All your talk of refugees and ethnic cleansing is an irrelevant wild goose chase. The right is inherent to all citizens of a country regardless of why they are outside the country.
The question is are they citizens? If they were born in the territory, likely yes. Otherwise there is no reason to think they are.
The first one I'd agree is a joke. Jordan already signed over the West Bank to Israeli authority in their peace deal and want nothing to do with the Palestinians. Egypt (even under Morsi) were not fans of Hamas.Good luck selling that one.
Looks like March 29 might now be the start date for the UN push and the one start of the one state solution moves.
Nice work.
The 2nd/3rd has nothing to sell.
For that matter, try convincing the Palestinians to accept a one state solution.Good luck convincing Israel to commit suicide, the above are far more likely.
