Ukraine updates

[oil&gas]

With the exception of a handful of bird-brained heroes there
is no sign of people outside Ukraine willing to risk their lives to
fight the Adolph Hitler of our time. Something must not be
right.

Having looked into recent news more thoroughly I found out to my
chagrin more than a handful of volunteer oversea fighters have given
their lives in Ukraine. My bad for the rather inaccurate post. That being
said the number of people eager to risk their lives in Ukraine is nonetheless
nowhere close to the number of people willfully joined the military to fight
Adolph Hitler and Imperial Japan in WWII. I think it is safe to say that 75%
of the population of the world have no idea the west is now fighting the
Adolph Hitler of our time. As such it is safe for me to say slipping of the
support of Ukraine in Europe and the U.S. is a possibility.

 

[Greytop19]

More than 20,000 people have signed up to join the Ukrainian Foreign Legion, which is far more than Ukraine can actually accept. So what's not true is your analysis that there's no sign of people willing to go.

Have you signed up Sir ??

 

[Greytop19]

Fuck Russia's warnings.

Victim blaming nonsense. Had Russia not invaded a Sovereign nation, the shells would not have been there. You must be the kind of guy that tells a woman that if she had headed your warnings and not gone to that party she wouldn't have been roofied and gangraped too.

Alaska was purchased from Russia in 1867.
What happens if Russia wants Alaska and invades ?
Is the answer "Fuck Russia" or is USA fucked

 

[DinkleMouse]

Having looked into recent news more thoroughly I found out to my
chagrin more than a handful of volunteer oversea fighters have given
their lives in Ukraine. My bad for the rather inaccurate post.

You're continuing
to prove you're
talking out of your
ass by having to
correct yourself.
That should be
a big sign that
perhaps your
opinions are not
the educated kind
but rather the
ignorant kind
and maybe you
should educate
yourself better
before opening
your mouth so
you don't sound
so foolish.

Ever heard
Proverbs 17:28?

"Even a fool, when
he holdeth his
peace, is counted
wise: and he that
shutteth his lips is
esteemed a man
of understanding."

Or as Lincoln is
said to have
paraphrased it:

"It is better to
remain silent
at the risk of
being thought
a fool, than to
talk and
remove all
doubt of it."

That being
said the number of people eager to risk their lives in Ukraine is nonetheless
nowhere close to the number of people willfully joined the military to fight
Adolph Hitler and Imperial Japan in WWII. I think it is safe to say that 75%
of the population of the world have no idea the west is now fighting the
Adolph Hitler of our time. As such it is safe for me to say slipping of the
support of Ukraine in Europe and the U.S. is a possibility.

Did you know that 66% of all Americans who fought in WW2 were
drafted? The British implemented National Service that required all
able-bodied men between the ages of 18 and 41 and all females aged
20-30 with only a handful of exceptions to serve, making their, at its
peak, 2.9 million strong military technically 100% drafted.

In
any
case
,
pointing
out
people
protested
against
getting
Involved
in
WW2
as
well
is
not
the
same
as
saying
"
Putin
is
the
Hitler
of
our
time
.
"

It's merely pointing out that there are always people who will prefer appeasement
at all cost, even against the likes of Hitler.

 

[DinkleMouse]

Have you signed up Sir ??

Yes. But what's your point?

 

[Anbarandy]

You're continuing
to prove you're
talking out of your
ass by having to
correct yourself.
That should be
a big sign that
perhaps your
opinions are not
the educated kind
but rather the
ignorant kind
and maybe you
should educate
yourself better
before opening
your mouth so
you don't sound
so foolish.

Ever heard
Proverbs 17:28?

"Even a fool, when
he holdeth his
peace, is counted
wise: and he that
shutteth his lips is
esteemed a man
of understanding."

Or as Lincoln is
said to have
paraphrased it:

"It is better to
remain silent
at the risk of
being thought
a fool, than to
talk and
remove all
doubt of it."


Did you know that 66% of all Americans who fought in WW2 were
drafted? The British implemented National Service that required all
able-bodied men between the ages of 18 and 41 and all females aged
20-30 with only a handful of exceptions to serve, making their, at its
peak, 2.9 million strong military technically 100% drafted.

In
any
case
,
pointing
out
people
protested
against
getting
Involved
in
WW2
as
well
is
not
the
same
as
saying
"
Putin
is
the
Hitler
of
our
time
.
"

It's merely pointing out that there are always people who will prefer appeasement
at all cost, even against the likes of Hitler.

A coupla words per line is just too much to comprehend.

One word per line is too complicated to understand.

But one alphabetical letter, one punctuation mark or character/symbol/emoji per line, well that is just perfection.

T

o

u

c

h

e

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!

 

[DinkleMouse]

Alaska was purchased from Russia in 1867.
What happens if Russia wants Alaska and invades ?
Is the answer "Fuck Russia" or is USA fucked

I don't see your relevance or your point. Are you saying if Russia says, "Give us back Alaska or we'll invade," that the US should literally just give them back Alaska?

Also I didn't say, "Fuck Russia." I said, "Fuck Russia's warnings." If you aren't even going to quote me properly in a short post like that, you're clearly ridiculously disingenuous. And I stand by that sentiment.

You don't get to threaten someone that you'll kill them if they move, point a gun at them, then pull the trigger when they move and blame them for it because you warned them. Russia chose "Special Military Action", Russia is responsible for every death related to it until they get the fuck out of someone else's country and stop throwing missiles at it.

 

[NotADcotor]

I do reckon the probability of that to happen could be a tad
smaller than what Biden and NATO may accomplish:

1) Regime change in Moscow.
2) Putin paying war reparation.
3) Putin arrested by Hague Court and tried for war crime.
4) Ukrainians would be the only ones who decide when the war ends
and they would have the west’s support until then.

Since 1 to 4 appear to have been presumed to be realistic scenarios by
well-respected and intelligent people I hope me mentioning a very unlikely
outcome of the war is not as frivolous.

If you can't tell the difference between the 4 options above and suggesting that Ukraine is making reservations at Dorsia in Moscow... My dude.

 

[NotADcotor]

Have you signed up Sir ??

So what. People keep bringing this up. Have you signed up to go fight Boko Haram? Oh well I guess you must support them. Do you go out walking the streets like Batman, oh I guess you must love criminals and the things they do.

I ain't going over, hell if a bunch of foreigners were marching towards my home town, I'd in the old days be willing to suck off every dude on the draft board to avoid being sent to the front, or get titays installed or whatever it takes.
That doesn't make me a pacifist, I am a coward. There is a difference. I mean Crikey, a bloke could get 'urt.

 

[Leimonis]

Meanwhile in Russia

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1659637884033400832

 

[oil&gas]

If you can't tell the difference between the 4 options above and suggesting that Ukraine is making reservations at Dorsia in Moscow... My dude.

I was suggesting probability of any of the 4 options to materialize
is low.

1.
How probable George Bush could have pulled off regime change in
Baghdad by not invading Iraq?

2.
Why would Putin feel obliged to pay war reparation before
Ukraine soldiers ventured into Russian territory. I guess it is
possible Putin would be so scared he might agree to pay
before Zelensky reached Moscow though. I do think this
is a tad more probable than Zelensky marching into Moscow.


3.
What is the chance of making an arrest of Putin outside
Russia on the warrant issued by Hague court? I know
they can capture Putin while he is vacationing in some
NATO member state so I do consider the odds of this
is better than Ukraine marching into Moscow like 2.

4.
I understand it is up to Zelensky to decide when he is to
stop fighting in the battlefield. But that won't make him the
boss of the proxy war he is fighting. It is up to Biden and
NATO to decide the level of support to Ukraine and when
the support is to end.

 

[squeezer]

When it rains in the Kremlin it pours on Putin's war party, oh that dirty-ass warmongering little bitch.

The widow of Putin's political mentor and mother of his rumored goddaughter is increasingly voicing concerns about Russia's war in Ukraine

Sen. Lyudmila Narusova's growing public aspersions about the war signal a growing discontent among Russian leaders and mounting chaos in the Kremlin.

ca.yahoo.com

 

[Valcazar]

You don't get to threaten someone that you'll kill them if they move, point a gun at them, then pull the trigger when they move and blame them for it because you warned them. Russia chose "Special Military Action", Russia is responsible for every death related to it until they get the fuck out of someone else's country and stop throwing missiles at it.

A highwayman holds a pistol to my ear, and mutters through his teeth, "Stand and deliver, or I shall kill you, and then you will be a murderer!"

 

[mandrill]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1659630335393513473

 

[Addict2sex]

Fuck Russia's warnings.

Victim blaming nonsense. Had Russia not invaded a Sovereign nation, the shells would not have been there. You must be the kind of guy that tells a woman that if she had headed your warnings and not gone to that party she wouldn't have been roofied and gangraped too.

Typically bullshit spin!
The hard fact ukraine started shelling killing innocent Russian speaking Ukrainian and killing them!
You must the kind think is ok to turn a blind eye ( see no evil and hear no evil commit by Ukrainian Nazis ) when a rapist selectly rape a innocent Russian child and then dont expect the victim child father not to react by killing the rapist! So in this case you blame Russia.
So therefore had Ukraine Nazis had not started killing Russian speaking Ukrainian in donbass region , Russia would had not start special Military operations or Russia invasion in Ukraine to defend DonBass.
Here the facts on Ukrainian started shelling the DonBass.

How Ukraine started shelling the Donbass in the lead-to Russia's invasion of Ukraine - Seemorerocks

OSCE Reports Reveal Ukraine Started Shelling The Donbas Nine Days Before Russia’s ‘Special Military Operation’ The Biden Administration, U.S. political officials, and the corporate media are lying the American public into World War III. All of my articles on the Ukraine-Russia War — Part I, Part...

seemorerocks.is

Here are more facts about Ukraine Nazis which obviously western governments ignored!

They Are Propagandizing For Nazis But Won't Tell You That
At the start of the recent war in Ukraine 'western' media changed their mind about Ukrainian Nazi groups. What they had condemned over years in their headlines and pieces was first whitewashed and, when was not enough, simply eliminated from the context. As example I had pointed to the changing headlines and descriptions of the fascist Azov militia in the pages of the New York Times.

Mar 15 2019:

On his flak jacket was a symbol commonly used by the Azov Battalion, a Ukrainian neo-Nazi paramilitary organization.

Feb 11 2020:

Defenders of the Ukrainian Azov Battalion, which the F.B.I. calls “a paramilitary unit” notorious for its “association with neo-Nazi ideology,” accuse us of being part of a Kremlin campaign to “demonize” the group.

Mar 17 2022:

Facebook last week said it was making an exception to its anti-extremism policies to allow praise for Ukraine’s far-right Azov Battalion military unit, “strictly in the context of defending Ukraine, or in their role as part of the Ukraine National Guard.”

Apr 29 2022:

These scenes are from videos shared online in recent days by the Azov regiment, a unit in the Ukrainian military, which says they were taken in the mazelike bunkers beneath the sprawling Azovstal steel plant in Mariupol, Ukraine.

PS. The faster Russia deNazis Ukraine , the quicker the innocent people on both side of this conflict will stop dying!
Cant wait to see the Ukraine people raise up and kill Zelensly or Zelensky own generals kill him or the CIA will kill Zelensky when he become a liability! If you look at history during Vietman war the CIA kill own pro- USA South Vietnam Leader !

 

[Leimonis]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1659603229037019138

 

[squeezer]

Typically bullshit spin!


PS. The faster Russia deNazis Ukraine , the quicker the innocent people on both side of this conflict will stop dying!
Cant wait to see the Ukraine people raise up and kill Zelensly or Zelensky own generals kill him or the CIA will kill Zelensky when he become a liability! If you look at history during Vietman war the CIA kill own pro- USA South Vietnam Leader !

You're still not taking ivermectin, are you??

 

[NotADcotor]

I was suggesting probability of any of the 4 options to materialize
is low.

1.
How probable George Bush could have pulled off regime change in
Baghdad by not invading Iraq?

2.
Why would Putin feel obliged to pay war reparation before
Ukraine soldiers ventured into Russian territory. I guess it is
possible Putin would be so scared he might agree to pay
before Zelensky reached Moscow though. I do think this
is a tad more probable than Zelensky marching into Moscow.


3.
What is the chance of making an arrest of Putin outside
Russia on the warrant issued by Hague court? I know
they can capture Putin while he is vacationing in some
NATO member state so I do consider the odds of this
is better than Ukraine marching into Moscow like 2.

4.
I understand it is up to Zelensky to decide when he is to
stop fighting in the battlefield. But that won't make him the
boss of the proxy war he is fighting. It is up to Biden and
NATO to decide the level of support to Ukraine and when
the support is to end.

What you actually said
I do reckon the probability of that to happen could be a tad
smaller than what Biden and NATO may accomplish:

1) Regime change in Moscow.
2) Putin paying war reparation.
3) Putin arrested by Hague Court and tried for war crime.
4) Ukrainians would be the only ones who decide when the war ends
and they would have the west’s support until then.

1: Can happen with no intentional effort on NATO's part. He could be overthrown just by having a bad show in the Ukraine. Just a side effect of defending Ukraine. However much like Pakistan and their nukes, this probably isn't a result that anyone in the west is seeking [at least not the people at the adult table] due to the risks of nukes going walkabouts. Great if he could be tossed in favor of a more moderate person, but if a more extreme person takes over or worse some sort of breakdown, that could be a bad day.
2: Considering how many assets have been frozen this could be done regardless of if Poutine agrees or not, there are some western legal issues that would have to be addressed [or much like the US Constiution just ignored] but still, it can be achieved regardless of war outcome.
3: Yeah 3 ain't gonna happen, it's up there with a drive towards Moscow.
4:: As long as NATO is willing to foot the bills [and they should], it would be up to Ukraine when the war ends, unless Poutine gives up which well may happen. Again though, that is pretty much doable, it's up to the west.

So 3 of those 4 things are actually not just probable but very much doable... unlike Ukraine driving to Moscow and making reservations at Darsia. But I'd like to hear what Paul Allan thinks.

 

[NotADcotor]

A highwayman holds a pistol to my ear, and mutters through his teeth, "Stand and deliver, or I shall kill you, and then you will be a murderer!"

Kinda of like the old kids game. Why are you hitting yourself.

 

[Leimonis]

You're still not taking ivermectin, are you??

I never understood why this group is so unhappy with that light beer when they have been drinking their own piss just recently