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The war could end sooner if Ukraine has zero interest in retaking Russian occupied
territory.

I was hoping Xi might succeed in booking some ceasefire deal. Now it looks
more likely Xi has been getting nowhere. The war may still end sooner if Biden
and NATO start toning down support both moral and material to Ukraine. Given
the U.S. has just announced the beginning of channelling of confiscated Russian
assets into rebuilding Ukraine I guess there is a chance the conflict will show signs
of abating in the battlefield before Biden completes the transfer of Russian money
to Zelensky. You don't rebuild a war-torn country until the war is over.
A couple of questions?

Do you see how Ukraine is battling for Bakhmut, why on earth would you think Ukraine has zero interest in retaking Russian-occupied territory?

Anyone paying any attention would have noticed XI/China was going in to lecture Zelensky/Ukraine into accepting Russia's terms, why do you believe Ukraine would have allowed XI to look like a hero when his ball is in Russia's court?

I'm sure the actual building will not start until they know it is safe to do so.

Based on what is being said, Russia is gearing up for a counter-offensive and Ukraine is gearing up to provide it, I don't see an end coming soon.
 

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The war could end sooner if Ukraine has zero interest in retaking Russian occupied
territory.
No.
I was hoping Xi might succeed in booking some ceasefire deal. Now it looks
more likely Xi has been getting nowhere. The war may still end sooner if Biden
and NATO start toning down support both moral and material to Ukraine. Given
the U.S. has just announced the beginning of channelling of confiscated Russian
assets into rebuilding Ukraine I guess there is a chance the conflict will show signs
of abating in the battlefield before Biden completes the transfer of Russian money
to Zelensky. You don't rebuild a war-torn country until the war is over.
No.
 
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A couple of questions?

Do you see how Ukraine is battling for Bakhmut, why on earth would you think Ukraine has zero interest in retaking Russian-occupied territory?
My zero-interest remark is a comment on the other post saying
Ukraine is showing zero interest in Russian territory. Didn't you also
say something to the effect that Ukraine will stop fighting in the
event of Putin retreating? It is never clear at what point Biden and
NATO will want the war to end. It could be anywhere between Russia
withdrawal at this point to Zelensky recapturing lost territories and
eventually marching on to Moscow. At this time I think the only safe
guess to make is Biden will let the war drags on a few more months.



Anyone paying any attention would have noticed XI/China was going in to lecture Zelensky/Ukraine into accepting Russia's terms, why do you believe Ukraine would have allowed XI to look like a hero when his ball is in Russia's court?
From what I remember the peace terms and conditions set out by
Xi are not all that favorable if not unacceptable to Putin and certainly
better than anything Biden and NATO could offer at this time which
seems to be just fighting to the end for Ukraine. Maybe Xi was just
bullshitting and terms and conditions in his lecture to Zelensky are
different and not disclosed to the public.


I'm sure the actual building will not start until they know it is safe to do so.
If it is your own money you won't feel save giving away tens of billions of dollars
to Ukraine not for the purpose of buying weapons but for reconstruction of destroyed
infrastructures of the country at a time when the end of the war is nowhere in sight.
It is possible Biden is looking for ways to end the war in his terms before the election.
I believe Biden's voters in general are sympathetic to Ukraine but I suspect they are
nowhere as supportive of fueling the war as Zelensky fan boys are on this thread.

Based on what is being said, Russia is gearing up for a counter-offensive and Ukraine is gearing up to provide it, I don't see an end coming soon.
 

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Zelensky recapturing lost territories and
eventually marching on to Moscow.
This statement is totally absurd and you know it! Of course, Ukraine wants their own territory back but to say they would be encouraged by Nato to march into Moscow shows your biased and pro-Russian stance. They haven't even thrown a rocket into Moscow and it Nato has been careful and has made it clear, this was off the table but hey, never let facts get in the way of supporting your hero.
 

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This statement is totally absurd and you know it! Of course, Ukraine wants their own territory back but to say they would be encouraged by Nato to march into Moscow shows your biased and pro-Russian stance. They haven't even thrown a rocket into Moscow and it Nato has been careful and has made it clear, this was off the table but hey, never let facts get in the way of supporting your hero.

Everything is possible. It is just a matter of probability. I could say Putin
taking over the entire Ukraine is also possible and certainly what he wants.
But chance of that transpiring is about as slim as Ukraine fighting back
into Moscow. Surely neither scenario is likely to transpire. But look at
it this way. If Zelensky has the will and resources to continue
fighting won't you want them to stop? I understand
nuclear retaliation from Putin is a big risk. But I can also assure
you provided that Ukraine is willing Russian nuclear missiles
can be countered. Putin's fear is once Ukraine becomes a full-fledged
NATO member Russia's nuclear capability will be pretty much rendered
impotent. The west has the technology to intercept Russian
missiles over Ukraine soil. With nuclear missiles Russia is a weak
superpower. Without it they pose no more threat than the inept military
of Saudi and Iran. Of course no Ukrainians in their right mind will
want to risk detonation of one single nuclear missile in their
country to take out Putin in a proxy war for the west. Put it this way,
NATO may not have a concrete plan of having Ukraine marching into
Moscow but if such chance comes up it surely will want to see the
war escalating beyond Russian withdrawal from Ukraine. By now
the price to pay for not removing Putin to the west is hefty beyond
your imagination.
 

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They haven't even thrown a rocket into Moscow and it Nato has been careful and has made it clear, this was off the table but hey, never let facts get in the way of supporting your hero.
I think it is possible Ukraine has not ruled out assassination by drone
attack or some other alternatives to throwing a rocket into Moscow.
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Assassinating Vladimir Putin?
RON UNZ • MAY 15, 2023

Early on the morning of May 3rd the Kremlin was attacked by two explosive drones, and although these were destroyed by the defenses, the Russian government claimed that the incident had probably been an assassination attempt against President Vladimir Putin.

I was skeptical at the time, but when Ray McGovern was interviewed a few days later he seemed to take the accusation seriously. Given his 27 years as a CIA Analyst, including serving as head of the Soviet Policy Group, I tend to trust his judgment on such matters:
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EU to curb Indian fuel imports made with Russian oil
May 16, 2023

Josep Borrell, the European Union’s foreign policy chief, has said that the bloc will act against the importation of Indian petroleum products that use Russian oil, in rare explicit criticism of India’s role in helping Russia evade Western sanctions amid the war in Ukraine.

In an interview with the Financial Times, Borell said the EU did not mind increased oil trade between Russia and India but urged a crackdown on India reselling Russian oil into Europe as refined fuel, including diesel.

India has emerged in the past year as a top buyer of Russian oil following Moscow’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine on February 24, 2022. Access to cheap Russian crude has boosted output and profits at Indian refineries, enabling them to export refined products competitively to Europe. In recent months, reports in Reuters and Bloomberg among others, have cited mounting evidence of Indian firms buying Russian oil, refining it and selling it to Europe.

“That India buys Russian oil, it’s normal. And if, thanks to our limitations on the price of oil, India can buy this oil much cheaper, well the less money Russia gets, the better,” Borrell said in the interview. “But if they use that in order to be a centre where Russian oil is being refined and by-products are being sold to us . . . we have to act.”

Borrell said he would raise the issue with India’s foreign minister, Subrahmanyam Jaishankar, when they meet on Tuesday. Jaishankar is in Brussels for the first meeting of the India-EU Trade and Technology Council.

Refined petroleum is India’s top export, and major restrictions on its sale would be a blow to the national economy. Such curbs might also add pressure on India to pull back from its traditionally strong relationship with Russia, which has grown economically since the start of the Ukraine war.

Indian refiners, which rarely bought Russian oil previously due to high transport costs, imported 970,000-981,000 barrels per day (bpd) of it in fiscal 2022/23 (April-March), accounting for more than a fifth of the country’s overall fuel imports.

Russia’s largest oil producer Rosneft and top Indian refiner Indian Oil Corporation have also signed a deal to increase and diversify oil grades delivered to India substantially.

According to ship-tracking data from Kpler, Reliance Industries and Nayara Energy are the key Indian exporters of refined fuels and buyers of Russian oil. India typically exported an average of 154,000 barrels per day (bpd) of diesel and jet fuel to Europe before Russia invaded Ukraine. However, that has increased to 200,000 bpd after the EU completely banned Russian oil products imports from February 5 this year, data from Kpler shows.

Any mechanism to stem the flow of Russian oil would need to be implemented by the national authorities, Borrell told the FT, suggesting that the EU could target buyers of Indian refined fuels, which it believes are derived from Russian crude.

“If they sell, it is because someone is buying. And we have to look at who is buying,” he said.

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You'd be stupid if you didn't learn anything from this war about drones, tanks and missiles.
Yeah, what technology is there to engage reentry vehicles on the ballistic trajectory? Between 2k and 5k of them? Pray tell.
 

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It should come as good news to you folks that Russia's oil
industry will be hit so hard by sanctions by the end of the war
that sooner or later it won't have sufficient surplus oil to
export to Europe after meeting the demands of India and China,
 
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Everything is possible. It is just a matter of probability. I could say Putin
taking over the entire Ukraine is also possible and certainly what he wants.
But chance of that transpiring is about as slim as Ukraine fighting back
into Moscow. Surely neither scenario is likely to transpire. But look at
it this way. If Zelensky has the will and resources to continue
fighting won't you want them to stop? I understand
nuclear retaliation from Putin is a big risk. But I can also assure
you provided that Ukraine is willing Russian nuclear missiles
can be countered. Putin's fear is once Ukraine becomes a full-fledged
NATO member Russia's nuclear capability will be pretty much rendered
impotent. The west has the technology to intercept Russian
missiles over Ukraine soil. With nuclear missiles Russia is a weak
superpower. Without it they pose no more threat than the inept military
of Saudi and Iran. Of course no Ukrainians in their right mind will
want to risk detonation of one single nuclear missile in their
country to take out Putin in a proxy war for the west. Put it this way,
NATO may not have a concrete plan of having Ukraine marching into
Moscow but if such chance comes up it surely will want to see the
war escalating beyond Russian withdrawal from Ukraine. By now
the price to pay for not removing Putin to the west is hefty beyond
your imagination.
Man, has the Kreal demon entered your body and taken it over??? LMAO

Dude, YES, when Putin commenced his "military operation" he believed full well he would be welcomed with open arms, take out Zelensky and install a leader of his choice, and basically run all of Ukraine. If you recall, the attempt to head toward Kyiv was in motion at the start. Russian forces captured key areas to the north and west of Kyiv, leading to the international prediction of the city's imminent fall but the Ukrainians would have nothing of it and fought back like champs and NO THIS IS NOT A PROXY WAR! Ukrainians are in this fight heart and soul to keep their country so this bullshit and nonsense of a proxy war is just that. If the US and Nato wanted to wipe Russia out and go all in, it would be playing out completely differently but hey, once again, don't ever let facts get in the way.
 

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I think we can at least agree the west staying the course
as it is now is the only certain thing to say on where the war is
going. I cannot predict when and where the war will end. I
can only make a guess of the likelihood of different outcome.
I never said NATO wants to wipe Russia out. I do believe regime
change in Moscow is something they desire. And that doesn't
have to be something in planning for the west to wish Ukraine
to do more than guarding their unoccupied territories against
Putin. Whether you agree the war is a proxy war or not it will drag
on until Europe's support is weakening and/or Biden's
approval rating is faltering. If Biden and NATO continue to stay
the course we can expect the war to carry on into 2024.

Man, has the Kreal demon entered your body and taken it over??? LMAO

Dude, YES, when Putin commenced his "military operation" he believed full well he would be welcomed with open arms, take out Zelensky and install a leader of his choice, and basically run all of Ukraine. If you recall, the attempt to head toward Kyiv was in motion at the start. Russian forces captured key areas to the north and west of Kyiv, leading to the international prediction of the city's imminent fall but the Ukrainians would have nothing of it and fought back like champs and NO THIS IS NOT A PROXY WAR! Ukrainians are in this fight heart and soul to keep their country so this bullshit and nonsense of a proxy war is just that. If the US and Nato wanted to wipe Russia out and go all in, it would be playing out completely differently but hey, once again, don't ever let facts get in the way.
 

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I think we can at least agree the west staying the course
as it is now is the only certain thing to say on where the war is
going.
Biden and US intelligence made this claim a long time ago. Nothing has changed because Putin doesn't want serious negotiations or be trusted to seriously negotiate.

I suspect by the end of the summer he will be either knocked off by his own people because I sense a serious beating coming to his troops.

 
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“So the UK wanted to poison the DonBass and instead the UK poison the west of Ukraine “
~Alex Christoforou


Yep, Russia wait until the wind is more favourable. All that DU dust get blown into Poland and Germany!
 
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Russia Strikes Ukrainian Arms Depot, Prompting Speculation Of Possible Fallout

MONDAY, MAY 15, 2023 - 09:40 PM
Authored by Adam Morrow via The Epoch Times,
Moscow says its forces have destroyed a large munitions depot in Ukraine’s western city of Khmelnytskyi.
“One AFU [Armed Forces of Ukraine] ammunition depot has been destroyed close to Khmelnytskyi,” the Russian Defense Ministry stated in its daily briefing for May 14. Khmelnytskyi, the target of Russian strikes in February, is located roughly 170 miles southwest of Kyiv.



Ukraine’s Energy Ministry confirmed that a “massive” Russian barrage damaged an energy facility in the city in the early hours of May 13.

According to the ministry, the local power supply wasn’t affected by the strikes.

The city’s local military administration similarly reported that multiple drones had targeted “critical infrastructure.”

Khmelnytskyi’s mayor, Oleksandr Symchyshyn, said schools, residential buildings, and industrial facilities were damaged in what he described as a “terrorist attack.”

Speaking on the Telegram messaging app, Symchyshyn claimed that the Russian strikes had left a number of civilian residents injured.

On the same day, a Russian missile barrage destroyed a storage facility in the Ukrainian city of Ternopil, located just west of Khmelnytskyi.

Fallout Concerns
Following the strike in Khmelnytskyi, video footage began circulating on Russian social media accounts that purportedly shows CCTV footage of the blast. The footage shows a facility—the nature of which is unclear—being rocked by a massive explosion, sending an enormous fireball into the sky.

This is probably the biggest explosion of the entire Ukrainian war

The Khmelnytskyi depot must’ve had a massive amount of fuel/ammunition for it to have multiple big recurring explosions pic.twitter.com/rpigK3D4qV
— LogKa (@LogKa11) May 13, 2023
The Epoch Times couldn’t verify the authenticity of the footage or whether it portrayed the recent Russian strike in Khmelnytskyi.

Nevertheless, the scope of the blast—and its fiery aftermath—has reportedly prompted speculation online that the targeted facility housed Western-supplied munitions containing depleted uranium.

In March, the UK announced plans to provide Kyiv with depleted uranium shells for its Challenger 2 combat tanks, 14 of which have already been sent to Ukraine.

Due to their extremely high density, depleted uranium shells are able to penetrate heavy armor. But they can also pose health risks to humans, animals, and ecosystems in and around impact areas.

Following London’s announcement, Russia’s Foreign Ministry warned that the potential effects of munitions containing depleted uranium would be “impossible to control.”

Russian President Vladimir Putin has vowed to “respond accordingly” if such munitions are employed on the battlefield.

According to Intel Slava Z, a pro-Moscow news aggregator, rumors have spread on Ukrainian social media that the recent explosion in Khmelnytskyi had led to the dispersal of depleted uranium particles.

In a Telegram post, it claimed that there were “already reports” that radiation levels had surged in the vicinity of the city.

The Epoch Times was unable to verify the assertions.


Allies Pledge More Arms to Kyiv
The strike in Khmelnytskyi coincided with a trip by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to Berlin, where he met with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz.

It was Zelenskyy’s first visit to the German capital since Russia launched its invasion of Ukraine—Moscow calls it a “special military operation”—early last year.

Shortly before the Ukrainian leader’s arrival, Germany unveiled a fresh $3 billion aid package for Kyiv—its single largest contribution to date.

On May 15, Zelenskyy visited London, where UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak pledged to provide Ukraine with additional long-range missiles and attack drones. Last week, the UK announced that it had delivered Storm Shadow cruise missiles, which boast a range of more than 150 miles.

Speaking to Sunak, Zelenskyy said his country’s ongoing conflict with Russia was a matter of “security” for Ukraine and “all of Europe.”


Soon afterward, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov accused the UK of “pumping weapons” into Ukraine.

“This won’t drastically change the course of the special military operation,” he said. “But it will definitely lead to further destruction.”

According to Sunak’s office, the UK prime minister plans to urge Kyiv’s other allies to step up support for Ukraine’s war effort at an upcoming meeting of G-7 leaders.

Reuters contributed to this report.
 

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Russia Strikes Ukrainian Arms Depot, Prompting Speculation Of Possible Fallout

MONDAY, MAY 15, 2023 - 09:40 PM
Authored by Adam Morrow via The Epoch Times,
Moscow says its forces have destroyed a large munitions depot in Ukraine’s western city of Khmelnytskyi.
“One AFU [Armed Forces of Ukraine] ammunition depot has been destroyed close to Khmelnytskyi,” the Russian Defense Ministry stated in its daily briefing for May 14. Khmelnytskyi, the target of Russian strikes in February, is located roughly 170 miles southwest of Kyiv.



Ukraine’s Energy Ministry confirmed that a “massive” Russian barrage damaged an energy facility in the city in the early hours of May 13.

According to the ministry, the local power supply wasn’t affected by the strikes.

The city’s local military administration similarly reported that multiple drones had targeted “critical infrastructure.”

Khmelnytskyi’s mayor, Oleksandr Symchyshyn, said schools, residential buildings, and industrial facilities were damaged in what he described as a “terrorist attack.”

Speaking on the Telegram messaging app, Symchyshyn claimed that the Russian strikes had left a number of civilian residents injured.

On the same day, a Russian missile barrage destroyed a storage facility in the Ukrainian city of Ternopil, located just west of Khmelnytskyi.

Fallout Concerns
Following the strike in Khmelnytskyi, video footage began circulating on Russian social media accounts that purportedly shows CCTV footage of the blast. The footage shows a facility—the nature of which is unclear—being rocked by a massive explosion, sending an enormous fireball into the sky.


The Epoch Times couldn’t verify the authenticity of the footage or whether it portrayed the recent Russian strike in Khmelnytskyi.

Nevertheless, the scope of the blast—and its fiery aftermath—has reportedly prompted speculation online that the targeted facility housed Western-supplied munitions containing depleted uranium.

In March, the UK announced plans to provide Kyiv with depleted uranium shells for its Challenger 2 combat tanks, 14 of which have already been sent to Ukraine.

Due to their extremely high density, depleted uranium shells are able to penetrate heavy armor. But they can also pose health risks to humans, animals, and ecosystems in and around impact areas.

Following London’s announcement, Russia’s Foreign Ministry warned that the potential effects of munitions containing depleted uranium would be “impossible to control.”

Russian President Vladimir Putin has vowed to “respond accordingly” if such munitions are employed on the battlefield.

According to Intel Slava Z, a pro-Moscow news aggregator, rumors have spread on Ukrainian social media that the recent explosion in Khmelnytskyi had led to the dispersal of depleted uranium particles.

In a Telegram post, it claimed that there were “already reports” that radiation levels had surged in the vicinity of the city.

The Epoch Times was unable to verify the assertions.


Allies Pledge More Arms to Kyiv
The strike in Khmelnytskyi coincided with a trip by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to Berlin, where he met with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz.

It was Zelenskyy’s first visit to the German capital since Russia launched its invasion of Ukraine—Moscow calls it a “special military operation”—early last year.

Shortly before the Ukrainian leader’s arrival, Germany unveiled a fresh $3 billion aid package for Kyiv—its single largest contribution to date.

On May 15, Zelenskyy visited London, where UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak pledged to provide Ukraine with additional long-range missiles and attack drones. Last week, the UK announced that it had delivered Storm Shadow cruise missiles, which boast a range of more than 150 miles.

Speaking to Sunak, Zelenskyy said his country’s ongoing conflict with Russia was a matter of “security” for Ukraine and “all of Europe.”


Soon afterward, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov accused the UK of “pumping weapons” into Ukraine.

“This won’t drastically change the course of the special military operation,” he said. “But it will definitely lead to further destruction.”

According to Sunak’s office, the UK prime minister plans to urge Kyiv’s other allies to step up support for Ukraine’s war effort at an upcoming meeting of G-7 leaders.

Reuters contributed to this report.
So much for how awesome hypersonic missiles are for Putin.

 

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Ukraine Forced to Use ROBOTS to Fight Ammo Dump Fire - Radiation and Poisonous Depleted Uranium Dust
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Ukraine has had to begin using ROBOTS to carry fire hoses into the remains of an ammunition dump, blown up by Russian missiles last week, because the dump housed about $500 Million worth of British-supplied Depleted Uranium tank shells, which spread radioactive and poisonous Uranium dust all over the area.

The poisonous Uranium dust is so prevalent, that human firefighters dare not go into the scene.

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The fire at the site of a missile attack on a military warehouse in Khmelnitsky is extinguished by robots, remotely.
Depleted Uranium (DU) tank shells were supplied by the British despite explicit warnings from Russia that such ammunition, if used by Ukraine, would be treated as a "Dirty Bomb" attack upon Russia, unleashing a Russian response with its own radioactive weaponry! Yet the British sent the depleted uranium shells anyway.
Now, some observers are laughing that, in its zeal to supply Ukraine, Britain has ended up being the entity that radioactively contaminated their "ally" Ukraine! Had Britain heeded Russia's warning, the shells would not have been there.
While radiation levels have "spiked" upwards since the ammunition depot was hit, they are not dangerously high, and won't be. Depleted Uranium gives off very little radiation. Here's the Radiation readings for that city:

The big trouble with Depleted Uranium is that the substance is ALSO . . . . poisonous. Breathing it in almost guarantees lung cancer and other ailments. As weather washes the DU into the soil, it pollutes ground water, thereby poisoning the area water supply for DECADES.

Moreover, pregnant women exposed to DU, suffer miscarriages and hideous birth defects of children they carry to full term

Read the rest of the Here
 
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Russia Strikes Ukrainian Arms Depot, Prompting Speculation Of Possible Fallout

MONDAY, MAY 15, 2023 - 09:40 PM
Authored by Adam Morrow via The Epoch Times,
Moscow says its forces have destroyed a large munitions depot in Ukraine’s western city of Khmelnytskyi.
“One AFU [Armed Forces of Ukraine] ammunition depot has been destroyed close to Khmelnytskyi,” the Russian Defense Ministry stated in its daily briefing for May 14. Khmelnytskyi, the target of Russian strikes in February, is located roughly 170 miles southwest of Kyiv.



Ukraine’s Energy Ministry confirmed that a “massive” Russian barrage damaged an energy facility in the city in the early hours of May 13.

According to the ministry, the local power supply wasn’t affected by the strikes.

The city’s local military administration similarly reported that multiple drones had targeted “critical infrastructure.”

Khmelnytskyi’s mayor, Oleksandr Symchyshyn, said schools, residential buildings, and industrial facilities were damaged in what he described as a “terrorist attack.”

Speaking on the Telegram messaging app, Symchyshyn claimed that the Russian strikes had left a number of civilian residents injured.

On the same day, a Russian missile barrage destroyed a storage facility in the Ukrainian city of Ternopil, located just west of Khmelnytskyi.

Fallout Concerns
Following the strike in Khmelnytskyi, video footage began circulating on Russian social media accounts that purportedly shows CCTV footage of the blast. The footage shows a facility—the nature of which is unclear—being rocked by a massive explosion, sending an enormous fireball into the sky.


The Epoch Times couldn’t verify the authenticity of the footage or whether it portrayed the recent Russian strike in Khmelnytskyi.

Nevertheless, the scope of the blast—and its fiery aftermath—has reportedly prompted speculation online that the targeted facility housed Western-supplied munitions containing depleted uranium.

In March, the UK announced plans to provide Kyiv with depleted uranium shells for its Challenger 2 combat tanks, 14 of which have already been sent to Ukraine.

Due to their extremely high density, depleted uranium shells are able to penetrate heavy armor. But they can also pose health risks to humans, animals, and ecosystems in and around impact areas.

Following London’s announcement, Russia’s Foreign Ministry warned that the potential effects of munitions containing depleted uranium would be “impossible to control.”

Russian President Vladimir Putin has vowed to “respond accordingly” if such munitions are employed on the battlefield.

According to Intel Slava Z, a pro-Moscow news aggregator, rumors have spread on Ukrainian social media that the recent explosion in Khmelnytskyi had led to the dispersal of depleted uranium particles.

In a Telegram post, it claimed that there were “already reports” that radiation levels had surged in the vicinity of the city.

The Epoch Times was unable to verify the assertions.


Allies Pledge More Arms to Kyiv
The strike in Khmelnytskyi coincided with a trip by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to Berlin, where he met with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz.

It was Zelenskyy’s first visit to the German capital since Russia launched its invasion of Ukraine—Moscow calls it a “special military operation”—early last year.

Shortly before the Ukrainian leader’s arrival, Germany unveiled a fresh $3 billion aid package for Kyiv—its single largest contribution to date.

On May 15, Zelenskyy visited London, where UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak pledged to provide Ukraine with additional long-range missiles and attack drones. Last week, the UK announced that it had delivered Storm Shadow cruise missiles, which boast a range of more than 150 miles.

Speaking to Sunak, Zelenskyy said his country’s ongoing conflict with Russia was a matter of “security” for Ukraine and “all of Europe.”


Soon afterward, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov accused the UK of “pumping weapons” into Ukraine.

“This won’t drastically change the course of the special military operation,” he said. “But it will definitely lead to further destruction.”

According to Sunak’s office, the UK prime minister plans to urge Kyiv’s other allies to step up support for Ukraine’s war effort at an upcoming meeting of G-7 leaders.

Reuters contributed to this report.
Kim Dotcom - serial tech felon and sociopath.

Of course, Addy worships Kim Dotcom and believes everything he says.



Kim Dotcom (né Schmitz;[2] born 21 January 1974), also known as Kimble[3] and Kim Tim Jim Vestor,[4] is a German-Finnish Internet entrepreneur and political activist who lives in Glenorchy, New Zealand.[5]

He rose to fame in Germany in the 1990s as a hacker and an Internet entrepreneur who took advantage of reporters' lack of technical credibility.[6] He was arrested in 1994 for trafficking in stolen phone calling card numbers. He was convicted on 11 charges of computer fraud, 10 charges of data espionage and various other charges in 1998 that he served a two-year suspended sentence for.[6] In 2003, he was deported to Germany where he pleaded guilty to embezzlement in November 2003 and after five months in jail awaiting trial he received another 20 months suspended sentence.[7]

Dotcom is the founder and former CEO of the defunct file hosting service Megaupload (2005–2012).[8][9] In 2012, the United States Department of Justice seized its website and pressed charges against Dotcom, including criminal copyright infringement, money laundering, racketeering and wire fraud.[10] Dotcom was residing in New Zealand at the time; at the request of US authorities, New Zealand police raided his home in 2012 and arrested him. Dotcom posted bail and has been going through legal proceedings ever since to avoid extradition to the United States.

In 2017, a New Zealand court ruled that Dotcom could be extradited to the US on fraud charges related to Megaupload. Dotcom denies any wrongdoing and has accused US authorities of pursuing a vendetta against him on behalf of politically influential Hollywood studios.[11] In 2018, the New Zealand Court of Appeal upheld the lower court's ruling. Dotcom appealed to the Supreme Court of New Zealand, which ruled in 2020 that Dotcom could be extradited to the United States, but that he could challenge the decision through a judicial review.[12]

In 2013, Dotcom launched another cloud storage service called Mega, although he severed all ties with the service in 2015. He also started and funded the Internet Party.[13] The party contested the 2014 New Zealand general election under an electoral alliance with the Mana Movement and contested the 2017 general election independently, but failed to win any seats at either election.[14][additional citation(s) needed]

In 2017, Dotcom played a role in spreading conspiracy theories about the murder of Seth Rich.[15][16]

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Anatomy of MIM-104 Patriot Destruction + Primer on Kinzhal Hypersonic Missile

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Let’s break down in depth exactly what happened on the night of the Patriot attack and catch up on the known facts and speculations. Here’s what is known so far:
Russia was said to have conducted a layered, multi-vectored attack which came from various sides including north, east, and south, which included both Geran drones as screening cover, Kalibr missiles, Kh-101s, and finally the Kinzhals. The attack also likely included other cheaper types of drones as decoys to saturate the air defense, and in fact Kiev does attest to that, as in their official ‘shoot down’ graphic they include several drones they comically ID’d as Orlan ‘Supercum’ which was later changed to ‘Supercam’.
First, let’s break down how such an attack happens. Most logically, the cheaper decoy drones are sent in first to see if they can bait out any of the air defense into opening up on them. Kiev would try to use only its less important SHORAD (Short Range AD) systems against them, such as German Gepards and any Tunguskas/Shilkas and such that they might have.



Next would come the cruise missiles in order to bait out the true high value AD that may have held back with the first wave, and which Ukraine’s SHORAD systems may be useless against. Once the Patriot/SAMP-T/Iris-T/NASAMs/Crotale, etc., start opening up on the cruise missiles, Russia will be watching as closely as possible, with a variety of methods, in order to try to identify the air defense positions. I’ll get to those methods a little later.

It should be stated that there are certain positions Russia already knows are likely, and are prefigured into their search matrices. For instance, Mim-104 Patriot system is an extremely complex and large system, you can’t just set it up anywhere, like in the middle of an apartment building courtyard or something like that. These systems not only require a lot of room but also, since they are much less mobile than drivable units like Gepards and such, they are preferably situated somewhere that doesn’t have a lot of civilian ‘eyes’ in the area, so that no one films or rats them out, whether accidentally or not.

This leaves only a few real, solid choices where you can put such a system. And they are almost always put in airports, as an example. It comes as no surprise then that during the attacks on 5/16, word now has it that two of the Patriots were located at Zhuliany airport in Kiev and one at or near the Zoo, as per the following from Rybar:

About the destruction of the Patriot air defense system in Kyiv
Last night, the Russian Armed Forces destroyed at least one launcher of the Patriot anti-aircraft missile system in Kyiv. Rybar's team managed to establish the exact location of the anti-aircraft battery. In total, there were three launchers in the positional area at the Zhuliany airport, where the "Kinzal" hit.
Coordinates: 50.404161, 30.443186
Another place where the work of the Ukrainian air defense was noticed was the vicinity of the Kyiv zoo, where the fragments of the fired missiles fell. The complex itself worked in close proximity to the Kyiv Polytechnic University named after Sikorsky.
Coordinates: 50.452699, 30.459805
As for the airfield "Zhulyany", footage from the surveillance camera got into the Network. In the video, you can clearly see the launches of 32 missiles (a total of 16 for each launcher), as well as the work of barreled anti-aircraft artillery - apparently, the Patriots were covered by the Gepard.
After the ammunition load was used up, an explosion was heard: the Russian "Kinzal" managed to hit the positional area, despite "Patriots" and one "Gepard".
One was destroyed, the second was seriously damaged, but survived. The third launcher escaped damage.
Two installations stood side by side, and the third - behind the building. The Russian "Kinzal" flew between the installations, but closer to the first: there was a detonation of the fuel.
Pieces of the first installation and pieces of soil / asphalt riddled the second.
Why the third installation in Zhuliany was not involved and did not participate in repulsing the strike (or, at least, its launches were not caught on video) is a question to which we have no answer.
If you, your loved ones and relatives have information about the affected objects, enemy movements or any other sensitive information that can help our troops, feel free to write to our bot @rybar_feedback_bot.
We guarantee confidentiality.
I left in their request at the end, for anyone with information on the Patriot’s destruction to ‘come forward’ confidentially, as that will play a role in later information that is being received.




Western analysts point to differences between satellite images for May 2 and 15, 2023 overlooking the Igor Ivanovich Sikorsky Kyiv International Airport . 6 buildings/positions are visible. Presumably, there were American Patriot air defense systems. It was this territory that was hit during the recent rocket attack on Kyiv. We hope that more detailed pictures will appear in the coming days, in which, perhaps, it will be possible to consider the arrival and destruction.
The above appears to confirm a large Patriot setup in the airport added between May 2nd and May 16th.
A quick primer on the system: the basic unit of a Patriot system is a ‘battery’ which is said to consist of up to 8 launchers. These launchers can have 4 missiles each, although there are newer ones with 8 and 16 missiles like that pictured below. Ukraine was said to have received 2 batteries of Patriots total, one from Germany and another from the U.S., but it is uncertain if they’re both deployed in Kiev or even both deployed at all.



It’s almost universally recognized now that the Patriot system fired 32 missiles in the videos seen on May 16. This corresponds to either a full battery of 8 launchers firing all 4 of their missiles (8 x 4 = 32), however there’s now evidence that they in fact had two of the 16-count launchers, and fired off both of them, which I describe a little further below.

Next: how do we know for certain they were Patriots that fired that 32 missile salvo? Firstly, we know it’s all one missile type as the salvo came from the same place on video, which appeared to be at least 2-3 separate launchers positioned relatively close to each other.

Secondly, the Patriot famously fires its missiles at an inclined angle as can be seen below:



 
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