Tucker Carlson

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It is to preempt Ukraine joining NATO and becoming an enemy state.
Riiight because Ukraine is so friendly now.

Sorry dude you are poisoned by the ultra right propaganda so I’ll have to put you on ignore with all your friends here
 

chickenriceandbeans

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Riiight because Ukraine is so friendly now.

Sorry dude you are poisoned by the ultra right propaganda so I’ll have to put you on ignore with all your friends here
Unfortunate for sure. It is not ultra right propaganda to be against military expansion. What you are standing for is infact fascist.

And do what you wish.
 

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That was later along with Biolabs, Nazis, satanism, nuclear weapons development, Ukraine about to invade Russia, the best one might be that Russia invaded Ukraine because its was concerned about Minsk agreements being ignored, as reported by Russian news agencies quoting Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov as saying.
After considering all chickenpoops posts on these. subjects it is clear that he has no fundamental knowledge or understanding of these matters. He is parroting (in his own words) the "talking points" fed to him by social media algorithms. I bet he couldn't have pointed out Ukraine on a map before this war. Nor spelled it.
 

chickenriceandbeans

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After considering all chickenpoops posts on these. subjects it is clear that he has no fundamental knowledge or understanding of these matters. He is parroting (in his own words) the "talking points" fed to him by social media algorithms. I bet he couldn't have pointed out Ukraine on a map before this war. Nor spelled it.
Hmmm and how exactly are your positions any different from what is being spouted in main stream media? I guess self awareness is not your forte. Your "understanding" consists of the parroting the tried and tested narrative of "Russia bad", "USA good" that has been around for a long time now.
 

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Thats what am saying. You have narratives here that Putin is engaged in some imperialist venture. He has his. The actual reasons though are based on the geo political situation of the region.
The actual reasons are the The Poo sees himself as a reincarnation of Peter the Great. Or wants his courtiers and grovellers to perceive him as such.
 

mandrill

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Hmmm and how exactly are your positions any different from what is being spouted in main stream media? I guess self awareness is not your forte. Your "understanding" consists of the parroting the tried and tested narrative of "Russia bad", "USA good" that has been around for a long time now.
Actually not, Chicken.

Muck of the analytical material out there on the war is very detailed and very good. You just won't go look for it because you live in your own echo chamber of tankie-ness.
 

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Hmmm and how exactly are your positions any different from what is being spouted in main stream media? I guess self awareness is not your forte. Your "understanding" consists of the parroting the tried and tested narrative of "Russia bad", "USA good" that has been around for a long time now.
USA bad, Russia way worse. It's not rocket surgery, pal!
 

chickenriceandbeans

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Actually not, Chicken.

Muck of the analytical material out there on the war is very detailed and very good. You just won't go look for it because you live in your own echo chamber of tankie-ness.
That is what you guys are doing. I've considered both positions and actual analysis of the security situation there is definitely hostile, threatening and unfair to Russia.
 

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The individual events and meetings you are fixated on are irrelevant and are an attempt to muddy the waters. What matters is the sum total of all those events, that ended in Russian demands for certain security guarantees. The security guarantees demands themselves are quite clear. Simply put, for Ukraine to not join NATO, no NATO expansion, for removal of NATO troops from Eastern Europe and demilitarization. These are reasonable demands that were not met by NATO because for NATO, success means destruction of Russia. That was never going to work.
Just wondering if you knew there were actually 9 parts to their demands, if you care to inform yourself here is the agreement they prewrote, titled ".
Agreement on measures to ensure the security of The Russian Federation and member States of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization
https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/rso/nato/1790803/?lang=en
 
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Just wondering if you knew there were actually 9 parts to their demands, if you care to inform yourself here is the agreement they prewrote, titled ".
Agreement on measures to ensure the security of The Russian Federation and member States of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization
https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/rso/nato/1790803/?lang=en
Thanks yes, I have read this before. What I said earlier is a fair summary of what is in here.
 

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Hmmm and how exactly are your positions any different from what is being spouted in main stream media? I guess self awareness is not your forte. Your "understanding" consists of the parroting the tried and tested narrative of "Russia bad", "USA good" that has been around for a long time now.
My family has suffered the brutality of post WW1 and WW2 Soviet invasions, attempted genocide, Russification, 50 years of oppressive Soviet occupation and could have as easily been "liberated" by these inhuman, savages as the Ukrainians are today. I still even own the property that was returned to the rightful owners after the Soviet Union FAILED. My relatives live and farm the property and have since 1993. I visit every couple years and have even been asked to get involved in business and politics there.

So, I have known of, studied and continue to keep up to date on the issues and thoughts on BOTH sides for about 35 years. It is in my best interests to know how the Soviet-style Russians think, before they act on their delusions.

But you seem to have much more insight than me. Maybe I should download Tik Tok and Truth Social after all...🤔
 
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SchlongConery

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You have your narratives they have theirs. Doesnt mean much.

The actual reasons are because of the geopolitics of the region brought on my NATO expansion.
You can't spell Minsk and I'm surprised you can spell geopolitics. You understand neither.

Was also wondering what rock you used to hide under here on Terb before you appeared out of nowhere last week and have made 196 posts on politics since then? Not any about fucking women either. You certainly are no academic and lack critical thinking skills, an open mind and testosterone.

So who were you?
 
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My family has suffered the brutality of post WW1 and WW2 Soviet invasions, attempted genocide, Russification, 50 years of oppressive Soviet occupation and could have as easily been "liberated" by these inhuman, savages as the Ukrainians are today. I still even own the property that was returned to the rightful owners after the Soviet Union FAILED. My relatives live and farm the property and have since 1993. I visit every couple years and have even been asked to get involved in business and politics there.

So, I have known of, studied and continue to keep up to date on the issues and thoughts on BOTH sides for about 35 years. It is in my best interests to know how the Russians think, before they act on their delusions.

But you seem to have much more insight than me. Maybe I should download Tik Tok and Truth Social after all...🤔
So to summarize you have a personal bias and animosity towards the Russians. Okay, I understand where you are coming from.

Russians on the other hand feel threatened the same way you are and therefore are invading.
 
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