Huh ? Want to repeat that?danmand said:You are a fool (notice I did not use the B word) if you think you can
run a public utility without unions. It can and will never happen.
You could easily run one but you can't get there from here.
Huh ? Want to repeat that?danmand said:You are a fool (notice I did not use the B word) if you think you can
run a public utility without unions. It can and will never happen.
It is.Moraff said:yup cause god knows the automated 407 is much cheaper and efficient than the New York Thruway that has those old-fashioned human collectors.
Bus drivers, subway drivers, collectors (ticket takers) are all teh same position by salary and we get $26.54/hour with time and a half for voluntary overtime and double time for forced/mandatory overtime. We feel that the break down is like this: $6/hour for driving the bus - $20.54 / hour for putting up with everyones bullshit (take that as everyone of the 1% of passengers who constitute the moron population of this fine city) and that simply is not enough for me to put up with all that bullshit.KBear said:It would be interesting to see the actual pay scales for different jobs at the TTC. Drivers, cleaners, ticket takers, etc.
Does anyone else think that 55k a year to collect tickets seems like a fair wage. Unless, somehow I missed the "Faculty of Ticket Collection" building on my way to class everyday at U of T in my Graduate studies....Jaedon said:Bus drivers, subway drivers, collectors (ticket takers) are all teh same position by salary and we get $26.54/hour with time and a half for voluntary overtime and double time for forced/mandatory overtime. We feel that the break down is like this: $6/hour for driving the bus - $20.54 / hour for putting up with everyones bullshit (take that as everyone of the 1% of passengers who constitute the moron population of this fine city) and that simply is not enough for me to put up with all that bullshit.
Ditto that.mmmburritos said:Does anyone else think that 55k a year to collect tickets seems like a fair wage. Unless, somehow I missed the "Faculty of Ticket Collection" building on my way to class everyday at U of T in my Graduate studies....
What about the BS that the riders have to take from you (you as in general ttc employees), what do the riders get for that? Even higher fares?Jaedon said:Bus drivers, subway drivers, collectors (ticket takers) are all teh same position by salary and we get $26.54/hour with time and a half for voluntary overtime and double time for forced/mandatory overtime. We feel that the break down is like this: $6/hour for driving the bus - $20.54 / hour for putting up with everyones bullshit (take that as everyone of the 1% of passengers who constitute the moron population of this fine city) and that simply is not enough for me to put up with all that bullshit.
Punching drivers in the face, now thats a clever solution Thats a person doing his job..... and might not even want to go on strike but has to as the majority vote for it. Tell you what, cops get thier money from our taxes and got a raise recently, go punch one of them in the face. I haven't checked your posting history, are all your posts as brilliant as this? I am gonna suffer as much as everyone else who relies on the TTC for 100% of my transportation needs yet can survive the inconvenience without suckerpunching anyone.big dogie said:Do the people that have to walk to work on Monday have a choice? These stupid fucks are holding the city hostage, they wouldn't do shit to help you, I say give their over-paid ass's a nice beat down and they can stick it right up their kinnier.......
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Complete shutdown, no "work to rule".Esco! said:So what is the TTC strike suppose to entail????
Cutback in buses and subway cars coming each hour???
Or complete shutdown of all subway, bus and streetcars???
Does anyone know???
I dont think its smart of their Union to do thatThe Bandit said:Complete shutdown, no "work to rule".
I don't see how increased compensation of TTC drivers/ticket takers will actually reduce the incidence of 'bullshit'; attract job applicants to a difficult job, yes, keep employes, sure--but that doesn't seem to be the problem here. If that is really how most TTC workers see their pay break down, then they're not making the point about poor treatment to management, or management doesn't know how to deal with the problem. Or, the 'bullshit' is just an excuse for greed. The transit constables are a step in the right direction, but (a) they have to be in the trouble spots and (b) there need to be many more.Jaedon said:...
Bus drivers, subway drivers, collectors (ticket takers) are all teh same position by salary and we get $26.54/hour with time and a half for voluntary overtime and double time for forced/mandatory overtime. We feel that the break down is like this: $6/hour for driving the bus - $20.54 / hour for putting up with everyones bullshit (take that as everyone of the 1% of passengers who constitute the moron population of this fine city) and that simply is not enough for me to put up with all that bullshit.
So NOW you want to be treated like others? hmmm. I have no probs with that, but what would that really prove to you? If anything i think it'd totally backfire and work against you if you want to compare general public and ttc.xdog said:For all those people complaining about incomes for TTC employees, please list your job, income, and education. I'm sure you wouldn't mind giving other people a chance to decide if you're worth it or not....
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