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Trump to be sentenced on Jan. 10 on 34 charges, before his Jan. 20 inauguration

dirtydaveiii

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Perhaps the jury and the judge didn't do a good job. Maybe and very likely the sentencing is a big nothing. Then maybe it gets thrown out on appeal.
The judge didn't do a good job so he was overruled like aileen cannon .? Don't remember that happening. How does the jury not do a good job lol because they didn't come back with the verdict you wanted?
 

dirtydaveiii

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What exactly are you looking for here?

DA Alvin Bragg is an elected official in a liberal domain. Of course, he's going to jawbone this case for a long time. Appeal the sentencing against a sitting President? Doubt it. Talk about it? Yes, perhaps talk about it a lot.

Let's also be real.....Judge Merchan is no Trump fan. It's not like he's deliberately trying to cut Trump much slack.
Do you think it's fair for judges to cut people slack because they have more money than others or are more popular ? Isn't that the exact opposite of how your justice system is suppose to work? Was the judge in hunters case wrong because he didn't cut him and slack and was the jury wrong too ? If you use precedence, the Republican laid exactly the same charges against Democrat John Edward's but the circumstances were far different and the jury acquitted him. As for hunter, the republican states have never convicted someone for only lying on their gun purchase form without committing another crime. In Florida there is no legal penalty for it
 
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The judge didn't do a good job so he was overruled like aileen cannon .? Don't remember that happening. How does the jury not do a good job lol because they didn't come back with the verdict you wanted?
I'm just giving you the possibilities.

Can a jury be confused by the instructions and considerations in a court case? Can a judge show bias and make things indiscernible?

Of course yes, that's why we have an appeals system. When things don't work in a court, they get overturned. There's no other way to put it. You don't have to like it, but that's how it works.
 

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I'm just giving you the possibilities.

Can a jury be confused by the instructions and considerations in a court case? Can a judge show bias and make things indiscernible?

Of course yes, that's why we have an appeals system. When things don't work in a court, they get overturned. There's no other way to put it. You don't have to like it, but that's how it works.
Its going to be entertaining watching a convicted felon and fraudster pledge the oath of allegiance to the constitution.
 

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I think you are scatting. What about this? What about that? I think even an attorney like mandrill will tell you individual court cases shouldn't take on the weight of everything going on in the world. This case isn't about treason, insurrection, Hunter Biden or seeing that rich people get punishment. Each case gets argued on it's own merit and precedence. It's merely a case about an organization misclassifying payments which isn't really all that uncommon.

Do you think it's fair for judges to cut people slack because they have more money than others or are more popular ? Isn't that the exact opposite of how your justice system is suppose to work?
I don't even think this case has any great merit as a felony. So your asking a leading question. I said before the conviction that there would be no prison sentence because the alleged crime did not rise to that level of punishment.

If you use precedence, the Republican laid exactly the same charges against Democrat John Edward's but the circumstances were far different and the jury acquitted him.
My opinion was the Edwards case was not far different. That's why no Federal prosecutors were interested in taking up what clearly is a Federal case.

As for hunter, the republican states have never convicted someone for only lying on their gun purchase form without committing another crime. In Florida there is no legal penalty for it
The Federal gun charges were not the most egregious of Hunter's convictions. A prison sentence for the first-time gun offense was not certain either. The real problems for Hunter were the tax fraud convictions.

Finally and most importantly, the power of the Presidency eliminated any punishment. So I think you basically undermined your own argument.
 
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dirtydaveiii

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I think you are scatting. What about this? What about that? I think even an attorney like mandrill will tell you individual court cases shouldn't take on the weight of everything going on in the world. This case isn't about treason, insurrection, Hunter Biden or seeing that rich people get punishment. Each case gets argued on it's own merit and precedence. It's merely a case about an organization misclassifying payments which isn't really all that uncommon.



I don't even think this case has any great merit as a felony. So your asking a leading question. I said before the conviction that there would be no prison sentence because the alleged crime did not rise to that level of punishment.



My opinion was the Edwards case was not far different. That's why no Federal prosecutors were interested in taking up what clearly is a Federal case.



The Federal gun charges were not the most egregious of Hunter's convictions. A prison sentence for the first-time gun offense was not certain either. The real problems for Hunter were the tax fraud convictions.

Finally and most importantly, the power of the Presidency eliminated any punishment. So I think you basically undermined your own argument.
On June 3, 2011, Edwards was indicted by a federal grand jury in North Carolina on six felony charges, including four counts of collecting illegal campaign contributions, one count of conspiracy, and one count of making false statements
 

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On June 3, 2011, Edwards was indicted by a federal grand jury in North Carolina on six felony charges, including four counts of collecting illegal campaign contributions, one count of conspiracy, and one count of making false statements
...........and it didn't go anywhere after the trial.
 
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Whiners will ALWAYS whine.
The real whiners were the Jan 6th Insurrectionists that could not accept that the 2020 Elections were 100% legitimate!!
 

bver_hunter

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No...he is above lawfare.
No, he is above the law as any other citizen committing such fraud and criminal activities would spend time in jail!!
 

bver_hunter

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I suppose Trump can still be the president if convicted.
He can issue orders behind bar, I imagine.

He looks at home in that environment!! 😁 😆🤣
 
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DA Alvin Bragg is an elected official in a liberal domain. Of course, he's going to jawbone this case for a long time. Appeal the sentencing against a sitting President? Doubt it. Talk about it? Yes, perhaps talk about it a lot.

Judge Merchan is no Trump fan. It's not like he's deliberately trying to cut Trump much slack.

Judge Merchan, who is known for his lack of favor toward Trump, has taken the unusual step of announcing his intentions ahead of delivering his decisions. This gives District Attorney Alvin Bragg maximum time to act. While Bragg's efforts may not ultimately change the final outcome, the process of appealing these cases will keep Trump's name under public scrutiny.
Trump is betting on various scenarios: that he may not live to face the consequences of civil or criminal matters by the end of his presidential term, or that he can change the law to allow a third term. Failing that, he could even push for a write-in campaign. While write-in votes have been historically rare in high-profile elections. Strom Thurmond's 1954 U.S. Senate campaign in South Carolina being a notable exception. Trump may consider this option if he grows desperate.
In an extreme scenario, he might rally his supporters, including groups like the Proud Boys and his MAGA base, to take drastic action. However, whether he retains the same level of support by the end of a potential second term is uncertain. Many of his supporters have already become disillusioned, even before he begins another term in office.
 

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