Trump Says U.S. Will Impose Massive Tariffs On Mexico, Canada And China From Day 1

NotADcotor

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Considering he negotiated the deal with Mexico and Canada that is currently in effect, he if does this he is basically admitting his negotiating skills are total shit.

And his followers won't see it.

Also where is this 25% coming from, I thought he was saying 10 or 20%.

If this did go through, we should reduce our military spending to 1%, gotta get the money to pay for those damages somehow
Also it's a pretty hostile act from your biggest trading partner.

Any Canadian who supported this guy is a masochist, on the level of Queers for Palestine.
 

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La la land
So does this mean as a negotiation tactic Canada will ban or stop Illegal Immigrants who have resided in the US and entered the US illegally from entering Canada.?

Then we will stop sending Wood for housing development.
 

JohnLarue

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We won't go broke.
The American consumers who will be paying for it, will.
the us economy is far more domestically driven than exporting countries like Canada and Mexico
thus it is far better positioned in a trade war

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if you believe the number china publishes, they are also very domestic
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JohnLarue

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So does this mean as a negotiation tactic Canada will ban or stop Illegal Immigrants who have resided in the US and entered the US illegally from entering Canada.?

Then we will stop sending Wood for housing development.
"Then we will stop sending Wood for housing development." has to be a joke

In 2023, the United States Department of Commerce (Commerce) increased the duty rate on Canadian softwood lumber exports to 14.54%:
 
I bet you still think Kamala had a chance. It sounds like the sinking ship of MSNBC as it slowly goes bankrupt.
Trump won the "We the People" vote by less than 2% (1.6% latest), the slimmest majority in 20 years. The Electoral College was created to take the vote from the people and into the hands of the elite.

MSNBC and CNN with facts lost to the lies and "alternative facts" on social media vs real journalists that double check that bothersome thing called facts and science. Many of the Fox news team left i.e. Chris Wallace fed up with the fake news from the evening opinion folks not real journalism based on facts
 

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Whatever the actual policy of the new US government will be, Canada will have to negotiate with the US on the basis of mutual merit.
 

JohnLarue

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told you guys this was coming. You go woke you go broke. Get rid of Trudeau and get the Canadian culture back in the middle, not this liberal garbage that is abnormal.
yes
we do not want Mr. dress up in charge going into these negotiations
Trump hates Trudeau & Trump can be vindictive
and his ego will demand he is able to claim a victory over Canada and Mexico in the negotiations
no question we will get battered about and will likely have some industries which will have to give up some protectionist policies ie. Quebec dairy
Trudeaus taxes on social media companies .>> bye bye

China is the real target
 

Leimonis

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If a true leader of America imposes tariffs, we know it’s for the good of working people and we shall accept it with gratitude!
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If a true leader of America imposes tariffs, we know it’s for the good of working people and we shall accept it with gratitude!
This isn't as far-fetched as it sounds. Bernie Sanders probably supports tariffs too.
 

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Well if he goes throgh with this nonsense we will just have to accept China as our new best friend and join BRICS and BNR.
 
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Trump won the "We the People" vote by less than 2% (1.6% latest), the slimmest majority in 20 years. The Electoral College was created to take the vote from the people and into the hands of the elite.

MSNBC and CNN with facts lost to the lies and "alternative facts" on social media vs real journalists that double check that bothersome thing called facts and science. Many of the Fox news team left i.e. Chris Wallace fed up with the fake news from the evening opinion folks not real journalism based on facts
That you think those two stations are actually relevant says so much. They aren't.


Cripes this girl has far more reach, and in 37 minutes discects pretty much everything the Dems did wrong. And she is a lefty by the way. And very entertaining.
 
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Butler1000

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I like the take by o'Leary who said he threaten 400% tariffs on China. That will bring them to the table, or bankrupt them.
 
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thanks for you input Dave. I respectfully have to disagree. I can tell by your response we are just operating in vastly different paradigms.

Legacy media was very biased and this can easily be seen when msnbc or cnn aired a story and narrated to their leanings. If you went back and looked at long format of these videos on YouTube/X, you could see they cherry picked what they wanted to show. This is why legacy media is dying. They are not what you grew up with as a kid 30/40/50 years ago. Trump won despite all of legacy media promoting this bias.

I would assume almost all of your age demographic would disagree with everything I just said.
Being a nerd for facts, when they show the videos of what Trump says which is often provable lies and lies after lies, which can be facted checked I don't see how that is bias.

Just one simple example is Trump on video that the networks have played saying often that we "have the worst economy ever." That is a lie. If you look at the accepted international definition of "economy," it is measured by GDP growth. We are having the best economy of all major nations, other than India as measured by GDP. As the Economist and other international media ha said we are the "envy of the world". Europe is in terrible shape, The US Dollar has been mostly soaring as has the equity markets with all-time highs.

Often, the bias will be in the videos of Trump saying one thing and then saying precisely the opposite. Facts are facts not bias. And it is backed by video tape at his rallys etc, how can than be bias.

Grocery prices are higher due to, in the case of eggs, the millions of dead chickens due to bird flu. Coffee is increasing due to a lack of harvest due to extreme drought or heat, which most experts agree is due to fossil-fueled climate change. Yes, maybe 5% of scientists think it's just normal fluctuations.

Trump ran on lowering grocery prices. HOW? Harris had the only long-shot potential of going after price gouging (good luck with that and years of court fights) or being against mergers like the current Kroger case the Democratic Secretary of Commerce is fighting against. Trump has never suggested any specific way. Maybe price controls, which were a disaster the last time they were tried.

Anyway I could go on and on. Harris had specific proposals for each problem, while Trump just tears everything apart with no specific ideas other than his theory from his book, if you tell people lies enough they become facts. Just like how other dictators have rose to power. The border deal that many R's liked, but Trump told them to reject it since he would rather use it in his campaign than solve a problem. His entire life has been full of fraud (Trump U, his Charity, The Trump Org head in prison for tax fraud.etc), lies, six bankruptcies and nothing more than his ego, abuse of women, constant foul language and vicious attacks vs. any real solutions. He is an entertainer and circus act showman, not to be admired.

CNN, on most panels, had Scott Jennings always giving the Trump side of arguments. I don't see how you can argue with the facts of the fact-checkers on CNN that fact check both sides and in the debates etc have challenged Harris at times, but the truth is Trump simply lies, gives half turths and greatly exongerates far more if you fact check.

“The Art of the Deal,” 1987: The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration — and a very effective form of promotion.
 

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yes
we do not want Mr. dress up in charge going into these negotiations
Trump hates Trudeau & Trump can be vindictive
and his ego will demand he is able to claim a victory over Canada and Mexico in the negotiations
no question we will get battered about and will likely have some industries which will have to give up some protectionist policies ie. Quebec dairy
Trudeaus taxes on social media companies .>> bye bye

China is the real target
It will be fun to see PP squirm when Trump shafts Canada, but sad for rest of us who have to cope with the Canadian automotive industry's collapse and the ensuing economic pain. Maybe even a 20% tariff on Alberta oil heading south. All you Canadian Trump cheerleaders will be realizing a rather mixed blessing and it won't be due to being "great again"
 

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The King of Kings putting Russia first.

I'm sure Putin will be happy to sell to Trump all the aluminum, copper and cobalt the USA needs.
 
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