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Trump Says U.S. Will Impose Massive Tariffs On Mexico, Canada And China From Day 1

thanks for you input Dave. I respectfully have to disagree. I can tell by your response we are just operating in vastly different paradigms.

Legacy media was very biased and this can easily be seen when msnbc or cnn aired a story and narrated to their leanings. If you went back and looked at long format of these videos on YouTube/X, you could see they cherry picked what they wanted to show. This is why legacy media is dying. They are not what you grew up with as a kid 30/40/50 years ago. Trump won despite all of legacy media promoting this bias.

I would assume almost all of your age demographic would disagree with everything I just said.
Being a nerd for facts, when they show the videos of what Trump says which is often provable lies and lies after lies, which can be facted checked I don't see how that is bias.

Just one simple example is Trump on video that the networks have played saying often that we "have the worst economy ever." That is a lie. If you look at the accepted international definition of "economy," it is measured by GDP growth. We are having the best economy of all major nations, other than India as measured by GDP. As the Economist and other international media ha said we are the "envy of the world". Europe is in terrible shape, The US Dollar has been mostly soaring as has the equity markets with all-time highs.

Often, the bias will be in the videos of Trump saying one thing and then saying precisely the opposite. Facts are facts not bias. And it is backed by video tape at his rallys etc, how can than be bias.

Grocery prices are higher due to, in the case of eggs, the millions of dead chickens due to bird flu. Coffee is increasing due to a lack of harvest due to extreme drought or heat, which most experts agree is due to fossil-fueled climate change. Yes, maybe 5% of scientists think it's just normal fluctuations.

Trump ran on lowering grocery prices. HOW? Harris had the only long-shot potential of going after price gouging (good luck with that and years of court fights) or being against mergers like the current Kroger case the Democratic Secretary of Commerce is fighting against. Trump has never suggested any specific way. Maybe price controls, which were a disaster the last time they were tried.

Anyway I could go on and on. Harris had specific proposals for each problem, while Trump just tears everything apart with no specific ideas other than his theory from his book, if you tell people lies enough they become facts. Just like how other dictators have rose to power. The border deal that many R's liked, but Trump told them to reject it since he would rather use it in his campaign than solve a problem. His entire life has been full of fraud (Trump U, his Charity, The Trump Org head in prison for tax fraud.etc), lies, six bankruptcies and nothing more than his ego, abuse of women, constant foul language and vicious attacks vs. any real solutions. He is an entertainer and circus act showman, not to be admired.

CNN, on most panels, had Scott Jennings always giving the Trump side of arguments. I don't see how you can argue with the facts of the fact-checkers on CNN that fact check both sides and in the debates etc have challenged Harris at times, but the truth is Trump simply lies, gives half turths and greatly exongerates far more if you fact check.

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yes
we do not want Mr. dress up in charge going into these negotiations
Trump hates Trudeau & Trump can be vindictive
and his ego will demand he is able to claim a victory over Canada and Mexico in the negotiations
no question we will get battered about and will likely have some industries which will have to give up some protectionist policies ie. Quebec dairy
Trudeaus taxes on social media companies .>> bye bye

China is the real target
It will be fun to see PP squirm when Trump shafts Canada, but sad for rest of us who have to cope with the Canadian automotive industry's collapse and the ensuing economic pain. Maybe even a 20% tariff on Alberta oil heading south. All you Canadian Trump cheerleaders will be realizing a rather mixed blessing and it won't be due to being "great again"
 

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The King of Kings putting Russia first.

I'm sure Putin will be happy to sell to Trump all the aluminum, copper and cobalt the USA needs.
 
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Being a nerd for facts, when they show the videos of what Trump says which is often provable lies and lies after lies, which can be facted checked I don't see how that is bias.
You are talking to the sorts of people who label any criticism of their cult leader as derangement syndrome, as Trump living in their head rent free and or crying over the election [which is a lot better than trying to overturn election results and staging a coup].

It is pointless even trying to discuss anything with them. I strongly dislike the left on many grounds [but apparently am a libtard somehow] but the Trumptards are completely next level in living in a world of pure imagination.
 

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Imagine now the price of food in the US! The import a lot from mexico. Add the fact that 50% of construction workers and 50% of farm crop picker are undocumented. If he deports them it will have a huge impact on price in the US.

Those 2 measures are important for maga wingnut because they lack the intelligence to truly understand them.
 

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We won't go broke.
The American consumers who will be paying for it, will.
The thing is, We buy more from the US than the US buys from us... Canada has better negotiating power to keep Trump from implementing the Tariffs...if the Keystone is revived...we might be seeing 5% to 10%...or we'll see how Peepee executes... Mexico is fucked but that's because they fuck up with the border crisis...China's economy relies heavily on US and Canada...Nike and most clothing brands will get hit with those tariffs... IMO Canada will be fine...
 
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Tariffs are paid by consumers. Not the exporters.
Rather than hate Trump and discredit his power, be concerned for your fellow Canadians. The guy can cripple any country he wants.

Scotiabank Analysis: In April, Scotiabank projected that a minimum 10% tariff, along with other economic policies, could reduce Canada’s GDP by 3.6% at its peak, increase inflation by 1.7 percentage points, and raise interest rates by 190 basis points. 

TD Economics Report: TD Economics assessed the impact of a 10% across-the-board tariff on Canadian goods and services exports. Their findings indicated that such tariffs would significantly harm Canada’s economy, especially if Canada retaliated with similar measures.
 
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Wish there was a way to ensure the US gets none of Canada's fresh water. Let them choke on their own drought if this is how it's going to be.
 
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It will be fun to see PP squirm when Trump shafts Canada, but sad for rest of us who have to cope with the Canadian automotive industry's collapse and the ensuing economic pain. Maybe even a 20% tariff on Alberta oil heading south. All you Canadian Trump cheerleaders will be realizing a rather mixed blessing and it won't be due to being "great again"
you are really messed up to think it will be fun if Canada gets the shaft, because you want to see our next PM fail.

As much as I dislike Trudeau. the last thing I wanted to see was him fail
So you should be able to understand how painful it has been to see him constantly fail

in addition to your really messed up views you have a poor understanding of the economic threat

the Canadian automotive industry's collapse
Trump can not slap tariffs on the auto industry due to the supply chain interconnections
His proposed corporate tax cuts are a much bigger threat as the auto sector will shift more production to the US over time if Canada does not lower its corporate taxation.

Maybe even a 20% tariff on Alberta oil heading south.
Trumps plan is to lower the cost of energy to offset the costs to the US economy of the tariffs
He will likely pave the way for increased oil imports from Canada while reducing reliance on imports form the middle east
This would make sense to him in so many ways.

Trudeau has pushed US capital away from our energy sector. Money steers clear of stupid
Trudeaus decimation in the upcoming election will signal stupid is over and capital will return

Canada has trade risk heading our way, but not in the energy sector
our education system really failed you

Pierre P will have a challenge dealing with Trump, no question
Changes to Canadas boarder security and immigration and regulatory burden will ensure a far better relationship
Trump hates and despises Justin Trudeau
Canada will get steamrolled out of vindictive spite if Trudeau is not gone and soon.
Trump will respect Pierre P ( as much as he can respect a non-American)
 
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Rather than hate Trump and discredit his power, be concerned for your fellow Canadians. The guy can cripple any country he wants.

Scotiabank Analysis: In April, Scotiabank projected that a minimum 10% tariff, along with other economic policies, could reduce Canada’s GDP by 3.6% at its peak, increase inflation by 1.7 percentage points, and raise interest rates by 190 basis points. 

TD Economics Report: TD Economics assessed the impact of a 10% across-the-board tariff on Canadian goods and services exports. Their findings indicated that such tariffs would significantly harm Canada’s economy, especially if Canada retaliated with similar measures.
Crippling countries is not as simple as you think it is.
Yes retaliatory tariffs will make things expensive for us.
Tariffs are not supposed to be used for a trade war.
Tariffs are to protect domestic industry.
Not to try and arm twist countries into doing your bidding.
Those are called sanctions.
Trump is simply using the word "tariffs" for rhetorical purposes.
 
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The thing is, We buy more from the US than the US buys from us... Canada has better negotiating power to keep Trump from implementing the Tariffs...if the Keystone is revived...we might be seeing 5% to 10%...or we'll see how Peepee executes... Mexico is fucked but that's because they fuck up with the border crisis...China's economy relies heavily on US and Canada...Nike and most clothing brands will get hit with those tariffs... IMO Canada will be fine...
I think so too.
Mexico could be impacted. Particularly automotive.
But the US also exports significant amounts to Mexico, so it remains to be seen what that trade war will look like.
Tariffs on China will impact US consumers big time.
It is not simple to switch supply chains and again it matters what % tariff he levies.
China's operational costs are so low, that even the suggested blanket 60% tariff will do nothing to persuade domestic industry to switch supply chains or "make in America".
 

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I think so too.
Mexico could be impacted. Particularly automotive.
But the US also exports significant amounts to Mexico, so it remains to be seen what that trade war will look like.
Tariffs on China will impact US consumers big time.
It is not simple to switch supply chains and again it matters what % tariff he levies.
China's operational costs are so low, that even the suggested blanket 60% tariff will do nothing to persuade domestic industry to switch supply chains or "make in America".
Mexico relies heavily on the US so they don't really have any bargaining power...IMO they will most likely just kiss Trumps ass for 4 years and try to appease him, implement stricter border rules and call it a day (until further notice or until Trump is done) China relies on their cheaper products going into the US, products that US already have but at a higher price...China can't afford to pass on to the consumer if tariff happens...they no longer had the competitive edge, because let's face it...they really do make inferior product with only the lower price as their main selling point.
 

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Wasn't there the renegotiated NAFTA (by Trump) for which these new proposed tariffs would violate?
 

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Wish there was a way to ensure the US gets none of Canada's fresh water. Let them choke on their own drought if this is how it's going to be.
if that happened next thing would be a friendly visit of US Army and a nice neighbourly liberation of Canada from woke dictatorship. I am surprised it didn't happen before 2020 election anyway.
 

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Crippling countries is not as simple as you think it is.
Yes retaliatory tariffs will make things expensive for us.
Tariffs are not supposed to be used for a trade war.
Tariffs are to protect domestic industry.
Not to try and arm twist countries into doing your bidding.
Those are called sanctions.
Trump is simply using the word "tariffs" for rhetorical purposes.

that is all semantics
denial of the actual risks and opportunities

Not to try and arm twist countries into doing your bidding.
We have a free trade deal, but do not actually practise free trade
We do not even have inter-provincial free trade
Canada supply management policies are protectionist and will be attacked
taxes on US social media companies are idealist in origin and will not survive

we have a massive opportunity to provide access to energy and natural resources to the US
there will be reshoring of manufacturing and we can capture some of that if we use the energy and natural resources as a barging chip.
we need to get our house in order quickly .. bye bye Justin
 
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