Trump on Putin plan to recognize breakaway Ukraine regions: 'This is genius'
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How many people are dead in the Middle East and Africa because of people like David Frum?
I'm saying, and clearly, that Frum has no voice nor credibility in this conversation or any other that involves international relations. What's he suggesting, anyway? A nuclear war is a fair price for Estonia?
In life, you're either willing to step up or you're willing to bend over, drop your pants and lube up.
Everyone makes a choice, JC.
ROTFLMFAO!! This is an hypothetical scenario that will never happen. The kind of argument a journalist or an immature individual would pose...or both. The only mistake Trump made(because he is not a politician) was to answer the question honestly. There is not a person in the world that would not sacrifice Estonia in order to prevent a nuclear holocaust and the destruction of the human race. And that goes as much for Trump, Putin or even the Moron of Ottawa. There's no such thing as stepping up with MAD on the line.
To the majority of nations Russia has invaded Ukraine, and we all know that the so called "Peacekeeping" is Putin's version of a "Genocide" in the offing!!
The UN Security Council have thrown their support behind Ukraine:
Putin gets no support from UN Security Council over Ukraine
Russian President Vladimir Putin has received no support from members of the U.N. Security Council for his actions to bring separatists in eastern Ukraine under Moscow’s control.
apnews.com
That wasn't exactly what Trump said, now was it?
(In fact, I believe that Trump has stocked up gallons of lube for just this eventuality with Putin in mind.)
You know it isn't the same thing. Did these areas hold a referendum to ask if the citizens wanted to remain part of Ukraine or become independent countries? I don't seem to recall that happening. And were they being persecuted by Ukrainian forces? Was there genocide happening there, as Russia implied? It would be like the Jason Kenny saying Alberta was independent, and the US sent in troops. So, not a legal situation by any measure.
I believe the Minsk agreements called for a referendum to decide on self government status within Ukraine.
Ukraine never held the referendum.
Very accurate dissection of the Present Day Russia / Ukraine Crisis and the Trump cronies involvement in fuelling it!!
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So, you are claiming that Satan is dumb? IMHO, he should be pretty smart to rule the underworld. being smart and doing good things are not the same. Do you think Hitler was dumb? He may made a few error that cost him the war but he was smarter than most people in his time.
P.S.: I only support the "Putin is a genius" part of Trump speech
. I hope you agree with it too. Pretty smart move by Putin.
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OK, here is teh secuence of events:
1) Lugansk People's republic and Doneck People's republic declare independence (long tome ago)
2) Russian recognised theiir independence
3) A few minutes after the independence was recognized, LPR and DPR ask for military help from Ruussia
4) A few hours after that the military help was approved by Russian President and Parliament and help was offered.
Now, where exactly the LETTER of the law was violated? And remember about the precedent of recognition of self-declared countries (like Kosovo) in the past. Not supporting Putin (I hate the man and what he stands for) but the plan was pretty smart. And since he did not invade the rest of Ukraine, the USA will do virtually nothing about it.
Does not matter - Russia has a veto power in security council. I think China will abstain.
How about Kharkiv? Will the West allow Putin to take Kharkiv? How about other parts of Eastern Ukraine?
