Trump on Joe Rogan

[Butler1000]

Better than showing a lack of reading comprehension.

It's amazing how you got owned by your own post, but just can't suck it up.

Homeland Security Pick Gen. John Kelly Fails to Disclose Ties to Defense Contractors

Kelly didn't disclose he was vice chairman at the Spectrum Group. Now we've found him listed on the boards of two defense contractors he didn't disclose either.

theintercept.com

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/john-kelly-resign-dhs-contractor-233410

Here are two more articles where it is proven he worked for multiple defense contractors prior to being Trump's chief of staff.

Including a failure to disclose them.

How your reading comprehension?

 

[Valcazar]

Muslims are voting for Stein, not Trump. Muslims hate Trump. I am talking about the consequences of doing so.

There are absolutely Muslims voting for Trump.
There are even Muslims voting for Trump because of Gaza.

 

[WyattEarp]

The question then would be who leaked to the press that she was in talks with Rogan to do the show?
As mentioned, Rogan had refused Trump many times before this, so what made Rogan change his mind?

I don't know. My point still stands. You probably don't want to flirt with doing the Rogan podcast unless you really want to do it. Everything leaks these days.

Just after Trump was on, Rogan was asked by some comedian panelists is she coming. He said they are still talking. They asked two, three hours? He didn't think that long. They joked 22 minutes. Rogan quickly responded that it would have to be an hour.

Now we don't know what this response actually means, but one might surmise Rogan and Harris' team are talking and the length of time is a negotiating point.

 

[WyattEarp]

There are absolutely Muslims voting for Trump.
There are even Muslims voting for Trump because of Gaza.

There were Muslims who voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020.

 

[Valcazar]

It's amazing how the Republican Party has morphed into the sane progressive party.

The seismic shift happened because of Trump.

The level of disconnect from reality you have is s-tier.

 

[WyattEarp]

You would be wrong.

I disagree. I know a lot of people. The only ones I know that are raising the fascist issue never voted for Trump in 2016 or 2020.

I'm sure there are a very small group of people that are persuaded by this argument. However, the polling strongly suggests the argument that Democracy is under threat is not landing.

If anything, "Fascist", "Hitler" are great rallying cries to motivate liberal voters. And because the Democrats have put this into the news, the liberal media echo chamber can repeat this over and over again in their newscasts for the next week.

 

[Valcazar]

Yeah, I completely agree and it already seems the interview has lost the media's attention and all have moved on.

I don't think clips went viral in either direction.
I certainly haven't noticed anything that is THE CLIP from the show

 

[Valcazar]

I don't know. My point still stands. You probably don't want to flirt with doing the Rogan podcast unless you really want to do it. Everything leaks these days.

But who says she didn't really want to do it?

They couldn't schedule it.
Should people have not leaked it if they were in even very preliminary talks?
Maybe not.
The question is who did that?

Just after Trump was on, Rogan was asked by some comedian panelists is she coming. He said they are still talking. They asked two, three hours? He didn't think that long. They joked 22 minutes. Rogan quickly responded that it would have to be an hour.

Now we don't know what this response actually means, but one might surmise Rogan and Harris' team are talking and the length of time is a negotiating point.

Which is what I have assumed seemed the most likely issue. Scheduling.

Trump is perfectly happy making his rally wait for three hours.
She is not.
So she has been looking for a shorter time (especially since I don't think Rogan would ever do a podcast remotely).

 

[Valcazar]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1850943863525163235

NEW: Ballot box lit on fire in Vancouver, Washington with hundreds of ballots reportedly inside. The incident happened shortly after 4 a.m. after smoke was seen coming out of the ballot box. The last ballot pickup at the location was nearly 24 hours earlier meaning there were likely hundreds of ballots inside. Only a handful were saved according to KATU2. Voters who dropped their ballots off at the location are being told to "contact the Election Auditor's Office IMMEDIATELY for a new ballot."

I have to admit that I didn't expect the MAGA crowd to go for straight up ballot destruction as part of the plan to cast the election in doubt.
I probably should have, though.

 

[Valcazar]

It's more like the Dem crowd going for straight up ballot destruction......LMAO

In Washington?
Where they are winning and no one considers it a battleground state?

Why?

This serves the Trump campaign only.

- It causes chaos about "what the real vote count is".
- It destroys primarily democratic ballots.
- It re-enforces the whole idea that anything other than in-person voting is unreliable.
- People in the MAGA media bubble will believe "It's more like the Dem crowd going for straight up ballot destruction"

Everything about this is upside for the Trumpists.

 

[WyattEarp]

Should people have not leaked it if they were in even very preliminary talks?
Maybe not.
The question is who did that?

I hope you are not asking these questions in an accusatory tone. Perhaps if Kamala wins, they can censor Joe Rogan. (That's a joke. Everyone but Frank will likely understand that.)

I think the leak came from the camp that has the most to gain.......the Rogan camp. They could be trying to pressure her to appear and might have also used it to prompt Trump to appear.

But who says she didn't really want to do it?
They couldn't schedule it.
...............................
Which is what I have assumed seemed the most likely issue. Scheduling.

Trump is perfectly happy making his rally wait for three hours.
She is not.
So she has been looking for a shorter time (especially since I don't think Rogan would ever do a podcast remotely).
But who says she didn't really want to do it?

We will likely never know what Rogan and Harris' team discussed and whether her schedule is really that tight. One thing we know for sure is neither of us really know.

By the way, Rogan has on rare occasions done his podcast remotely. I don't know what length of time is/was being discussed, but one might presume that his format obligates a minimum of one hour for a discussion. Rogan even says his show is not your standard Q&A.

 

[WyattEarp]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1850711379633951104

Mitch this doesn't sound real so I have to question the entire clip. Beav, doesn't think I question you and others about their poor Twitter sources.

 

[mandrill]

The guy's an off-color comedian on the rise. It's not a great joke, but it's a fairly straight-forward Halloween joke that makes the huge, huge offense that Black people like watermelons.

The U.S. is moving away from hyper-sensitivity in our language and culture. You're going to see some corners of our culture fight it, but it's happening. I hope Canada follows suit and doesn't get upset as a culture about every joke or misphrased comment. Who doesn't like a good Newfie joke? Or Jordan Peterson for that matter?

If you really want to be offended, you should find and post Hinchcliffe's Puerto Rico joke which doesn't really land. Republican leaders basically said it was a terrible joke and denounced it. These things will happen when you fill an arena and mix entertainment with politics.

You thought the "Black people like watermelons" joke was funny?

If the guy wants to be edgy, pick something new that's actually amusing. And the PR joke was just offensive sludge.

Listen: I was looking at old "Two Broke Girls" re runs the other day and found them funny af and lamented the fact that shit is so PC and lame these days. But the jokes on that show were smart and cute, as well as edgy. Hinchcliffe's jokes were inept, unfunny and offensive in that they milked stereotypes from 50 years ago without pushing any new boundaries or being creative. The laughter from what should have been his optimum audience of dumb, racist white people was very sparse.

And no - I don't like Newfie jokes. They're old, trite and boring. If someone wants to try out some edgy, but funny af jokes about Punjabis in Brampton or Jamaican-Canadians or small town hosers, please tell me how to listen to those.

And the last thing. Peterson's not funny either. Except the sad way he overdresses. That's funny. In a tragicomedy way.

 

[WyattEarp]

When did you pose the same question to him?

What makes you say that I do not watch it from start to finish?

I have several times questioned Mitch about his proclivity for Twitter sourced news and commentary. I just did in fact.

My thinking that you don't really watch Twitter clips start to finish is that many of your clips don't stick the landing. The headlines sounds more profound than the actual information in the clip.

Now beyond that is my own preference to not want to watch a clip over ten minutes long. I am not interested in watching an obscure Twitter commentator spending most of that time telling me what to think about a thirty second soundbite.

 

[Valcazar]

I hope you are not asking these questions in an accusatory tone.

No. I just think it is interesting.
If it is a tactical error, then the point where it goes bad is where it goes public.

I think the leak came from the camp that has the most to gain.......the Rogan camp. They could be trying to pressure her to appear and might have also used it to prompt Trump to appear.

Very possible.
If so, then it is an error the Harris camp really couldn't avoid.
The moment they went into negotiations with Rogan, they were at risk of that happening.

We will likely never know what Rogan and Harris' team discussed and whether her schedule is really that tight. One thing we know for sure is neither of us really know.

Agreed.

By the way, Rogan has on rare occasions done his podcast remotely. I don't know what length of time is/was being discussed, but one might presume that his format obligates a minimum of one hour for a discussion. Rogan even says his show is not your standard Q&A.

I didn't know he has done them remotely on occasion.
As for time, I agree it would have to be at least an hour or it isn't really a Rogan show.
It also seems he prefers there to be no time limit, and just talks until they're done.
That could also have been a sticking point.

 

[Valcazar]

Do you ever say anything smart? Don't bother answering.

So your explanation of this is what... random hooliganism?

 

[Valcazar]

You're not even worthy of a reply. I'm not wasting valuable keystrokes on someone clearly without intellect.

Awww.
That's sweet.
Thanks.

 

[squeezer]

It's amazing how you got owned by your own post, but just can't suck it up.

Homeland Security Pick Gen. John Kelly Fails to Disclose Ties to Defense Contractors

Kelly didn't disclose he was vice chairman at the Spectrum Group. Now we've found him listed on the boards of two defense contractors he didn't disclose either.

theintercept.com

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/john-kelly-resign-dhs-contractor-233410

Here are two more articles where it is proven he worked for multiple defense contractors prior to being Trump's chief of staff.

Including a failure to disclose them.

How your reading comprehension?

As I've mentioned, we are speaking about today and of course, a General should be working with defense contractors where their skills come in handy. After his calling Trump a treasonous bastard who doesn't deserve to ever sit in the Whitehouse, do you have anything about his sitting on any boards today? Although even if it is, it makes no difference because it has nothing to do with his opinion of the draft-dodging coward.

TODAY was the original post, not his past! Do you understand???? Is it clear????? Accept failure because by now, you should be used to it.

 

[Valcazar]

At least you're smart enough to understand. Color me impressed. Now if we could just get you past basic math we might be able to make something out of you yet. I know, I know, I'm an optimist.

So I guess the real question is whether or not I start paying attention to your posts now and see if you will be a fun chew toy or not.
I thought you and squeezer had a thing going on trading insults.

 

[Butler1000]

As I've mentioned, we are speaking about today and of course, a General should be working with defense contractors where their skills come in handy. After his calling Trump a treasonous bastard who doesn't deserve to ever sit in the Whitehouse, do you have anything about his sitting on any boards today? Although even if it is, it makes no difference because it has nothing to do with his opinion of the draft-dodging coward.

TODAY was the original post, not his past! Do you understand???? Is it clear????? Accept failure because by now, you should be used to it.

It matters because the arms dealers want him out and Harris in. What does that tell you?

It tells me they will use her to continue to extend and create create little regional conflicts they can exploit.

This primary reason for working for them is as a reward for pushing the above.

And you are a war monger for supporting the worst form of lobbying in Washington D.C. Rhe one that kills people directly for profit.