Trump on Joe Rogan

[mandrill]

Quiet Ukraine as well. But yes absolutely the President doesn't decide world events in a bubble.

But my major point was Shaq expects Arab Americans to project what might happen as possibly worse than what is happening. And so my Question is, how can it get much worse from their perspective?

Because the Dems have to walk a tight rope to keep both their moderate centrist pro Israel voters and their far left Frankies in line before the election - and after to some extent.

Whereas Trump will just whoop ass the Muslims like a demented angry old chimpanzee in a rage.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Except no new wars happened under Trump the first time. He is fact negotiated the end of Afghanistan. So from an objective standpoint your premise is false. It has in fact been worse under Biden. All you have to do is add up the dead, maimed and destroyed.

You are not thinking objectively and using empathy to see their view. You are arguing from only your opinion subjectively and mostly from projected opinion and not what has occured.

Please note as well he has not expressed any desire or policy this time to even a ban. I think he is likely to be far more concerned this time with internal American policy and trade policy.

Actions matter. The Biden/Harris administration is funding the war in Gaza, and now has moved troops in. How can it get worse?

And none of those things about wars and Afghanistan has anything to do with Gaza.
This is not my opinion. It is infact you that is projecting your opinion here.
Muslims are voting for Stein, not Trump. Muslims hate Trump. I am talking about the consequences of doing so.
You talked about policy.
I showed you how purely and objectively based on policy alone, Trump is worse for Muslims here, and for Palestinians over there.
Muslims who will vote Jill Stein, will vote based on an her stated policies which are pro-Palestinian.
Sure, but that will end up with a Trump presidency as a consequence whose stated policies are very anti-Palestinian.
They will end up with a guy who they hate even more than they do Harris.
If they were objective they would consider this and vote Harris.
I also showed you a video where Trump explicitly says that that he will remove all restraints on Netanyahu and that Biden is holding him back.
His words not mine.
So as I said, purely and objectively based on policy positions alone, a Trump/Vance Presidency is worse for Muslims than Harris/Walz.

 

[Leimonis]

Actions matter. The Biden/Harris administration is funding the war in Gaza, and now has moved troops in. How can it get worse?

Gee I don’t know maybe US betraying their ally and letting Palestinians and other Islamist terrorists cleanse and massacre Israelis and massively undermine US presence on the global scene could be a little bit worse?

 

[Butler1000]

And none of those things about wars and Afghanistan has anything to do with Gaza.
This is not my opinion. It is infact you that is projecting your opinion here.
Muslims are voting for Stein, not Trump. Muslims hate Trump. I am talking about the consequences of doing so.
You talked about policy.
I showed you how purely and objectively based on policy alone, Trump is worse for Muslims here, and for Palestinians over there.
Muslims who will vote Jill Stein, will vote based on an her stated policies which are pro-Palestinian.
Sure, but that will end up with a Trump presidency as a consequence whose stated policies are very anti-Palestinian.
They will end up with a guy who they hate even more than they do Harris.
If they were objective they would consider this and vote Harris.
I also showed you a video where Trump explicitly says that that he will remove all restraints on Netanyahu and that Biden is holding him back.
His words not mine.
So as I said, purely and objectively based on policy positions alone, a Trump/Vance Presidency is worse for Muslims than Harris/Walz.

Lol. So you think a travel ban is worse than funding a war? Wow. You haven't shown anything. At best they would carry the same policy. And those voters who think that are staying home, only voting down ballot, or voting for Stein in protest.

Do you ready think you can shame them into voting for Harris?

 

[Butler1000]

Gee I don’t know maybe US betraying their ally and letting Palestinians and other Islamist terrorists cleanse and massacre Israelis and massively undermine US presence on the global scene could be a little bit worse?

I agree. But that is MY perspective. What is the average Arab American's? It's their tax dollars too. So from THEIR perspective, how is a vote for the Dems a good thing,?

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Lol. So you think a travel ban is worse than funding a war? Wow. You haven't shown anything. At best they would carry the same policy. And those voters who think that are staying home, only voting down ballot, or voting for Stein in protest.

Do you ready think you can shame them into voting for Harris?

You keep projecting.
Muslims are not voting for Trump.
They are voting for Stein.
That ends up helping Trump but Muslims do not see Trump in a positive light at all.
Trump's stated positions are both a travel ban and expansion of war against Palestinians.
I posted a video with a clip of Trump saying so.
You dont have to shame voters.
You can help them see reason.

 

[Butler1000]

You keep projecting.
Muslims are not voting for Trump.
They are voting for Stein.
That ends up helping Trump but Muslims do not see Trump in a positive light at all.
Trump's stated positions are both a travel ban and expansion of war against Palestinians.
I posted a video with a clip of Trump saying so.
You dont have to shame voters.
You can help them see reason.

Dude, did you read the statement you quoted? I AGREED with you how they are voting.

And how the hell do you think the Gaza war can be expanded? Feel free to explain what else they can do.

Biden has not placed a single restriction on Israel. Not one. Israel is doing exactly what it wants to do, on its timeline, with whatever force it has decided to do. Their has been no restraints beyond self imposed ones. To say anything less is being naive or a lie.

Their is no difference between them. And Muslims are not blind.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Their is no difference between them. And Muslims are not blind.

But there is.
There is the travel ban, Muslim registries and rampant anti-Muslim attitudes here.
The continued and more severe bombing campaigns in Gaza with no diplomatic pressure to reign it in.
Not even lip service.

 

[Butler1000]

But there is.
There is the travel ban, Muslim registries and rampant anti-Muslim attitudes here.
The continued and more severe bombing campaigns in Gaza with no diplomatic pressure to reign it in.
Not even lip service.

Do you think the Cheney's endorsement and being on the campaign trail on stage with her make for a good impression? She is COURTING GOP voters who are NEO-CONS with that.

Diplomatic pressure? It's been a year. And they have the means by restriction of weapon transfers to place REAL pressure. Instead last week they sent troops.

Don't be naive. They Muslims aren't.

 

[Leimonis]

You dont have to shame voters.
You can help them see reason.

How can you help a chess player who can’t calculate even one move forward?

Don't be naive. They Muslims aren't.

Yeah that’s why Palestinians have been living their best life for the last 70 years. Because they are so intelligent.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Do you think the Cheney's endorsement and being on the campaign trail on stage with her make for a good impression? She is COURTING GOP voters who are NEO-CONS with that.

Diplomatic pressure? It's been a year. And they have the means by restriction of weapon transfers to place REAL pressure. Instead last week they sent troops.

Don't be naive. They Muslims aren't.

No it does not make a good impression.
But Trump makes an even worse impression on the Muslims.
If not diplomatic pressure, at least lip service.
If you are Muslim who'd you rather have in power?
Someone who pays lip service or someone who'd put you on a registry and ban your travel while openly asking Israel to go crazy?

 

[Frankfooter]

Jill Stein is never going to win.
The Palestinian issue is not a big issue for Americans.
So any vote you give to other than Kamala, will help Trump win.
If Trump wins both Palestinians and Muslims are fucked.

Palestinians and Muslims are fucked already, you think the genocide will be worse or their will be even more money going for bombs?

'Never again' means you can't vote for genocide.
Period.

 

[richaceg]

But here's what you leave out.

The choice isn't between going on Rogan and sitting at home on your living room couch. Presumably, there are other events that are scheduled for Harris which are rated as being more useful or less potentially problematical.

If it helps her campaign why would she pass that opportunity? That's a big platform...bigger than what she's been before like Charlemagne

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Palestinians and Muslims are fucked already,

So what is a little more right?

 

[Bucktee]

Yes, John Kelly is always in the news, YA OKAY Butt. More Butt facts pulled out and attempted to be smeared.

Did you get this ridiculous talking point you just threw out from Vance??

You are such a in the closet Trump Sycophant is entertaining.

That was a great interview, handled professionally and eloquently by Vance.

Imagine Kamala or her clownish VP being involved in a vigorous interview like this, getting grilled. It would be a bloodbath.

 

[Frankfooter]

So what is a little more right?

There has been no food into North Gaza for almost a month.
What more do you think can happen?

 

[squeezer]

That was a great interview, handled professionally and eloquently by Vance.

Imagine Kamala or her clownish VP being involved in a vigorous interview like this, getting grilled. It would be a bloodbath.

Yeah, like the speech right now with RFK's annoying voice and dumb ideas followed by Trump's rambling in New York. What a joke of a ticket designed to appeal to the twats of the voters in the US.

 

[Leimonis]

Palestinians… are fucked already

Love good news

 

[Leimonis]

There has been no food into North Gaza for almost a month.

There was no food, water, electricity or internet in gaza for the last year. Praise Allah for magical survival of Palestinians!

 

[squeezer]

When 80 percent of US generals go to work for arms makers

The revolving door between the Defense Department and the weapons industry spins — a new report offers ways to slow it down.

responsiblestatecraft.org

80%

And your Wiki page lists Acuity international with him as a board member. Look at their link. I win.

John Kelly has not and why wouldn't Generals be brought in to develop weapons for usage in the army? That is smart but hey, you wouldn't know that now would you?