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Except no new wars happened under Trump the first time. He is fact negotiated the end of Afghanistan. The Biden/Harris administration is funding the war in Gaza, and now has moved troops in. How can it get worse?
Yes Trump negotiated the end of the Afgan war, but Biden is getting the blame after extending the deadline and no one had any clue that the Afgan army would not defend against the Taleban. Biden and Trump get credit for ending the longest war but it was Biden that took the action. No, it is war and we had to leave some good helpers etc behind. It was a mess. Usually ending a war is far harder than starting a war.

How can it get worse? Easy, the Iran backed organizations founded on the principal of wiping out Israel.
 

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Yes Trump negotiated the end of the Afgan war, but Biden is getting the blame after extending the deadline and no one had any clue that the Afgan army would not defend against the Taleban. Biden and Trump get credit for ending the longest war but it was Biden that took the action. No, it is war and we had to leave some good helpers etc behind. It was a mess. Usually ending a war is far harder than starting a war.

How can it get worse? Easy, the Iran backed organizations founded on the principal of wiping out Israel.
The question was, how can it get worse from a Gaza resident's perspective.

And if the Pentagon "didn't know", then that would be a massive failure on their part, from an intelligence perspective, being too naive, and not properly preparing.

The fact is the Pentagon tried to drag their feet hoping to not have to leave. And then rushed it. It was all on them. The Military Industrial Complex tried to control things.
 

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Exactly just like Trump will lie and say anything to please the crowd in front of him. He wanted a Muslim ban and now he says they all love him. Deranged Idiot who wants to be Heil Trump
How is that "tirelessly working on a ceasefire thing every day" working out? Maybe we should ask Liz Cheney to broker a peace deal?
 
Biden has not placed a single restriction on Israel. Not one. Israel is doing exactly what it wants to do, on its timeline, with whatever force it has decided to do.
Biden has consistently tried to get PM Israel to negotiate a peace deal, free the hostages in exchange for Hamas prisoners (unfair balance since to many more were released in last hostage deal) yet guarantee the security of Israel. Most of the Western free word had supported Biden's' leadership to end the war. But neither side wants to end it. Biden has sent Blinkin on 11 trips to the middle east, discuss with Allies, and Quatar as intermediate to get a peace deal and emphasizes the ending of the innocent bloodshed in Gaza etc. But Israel is fighting against those that seek its destruction and believe they need to destroy them to ever have peace.

At least the response to the Iran sending massive missiles into Israel to only go after military targets most leaders credit Biden for seemingly convincing Israel to not do more extensive attacks on Iran to try and not escalate further.
 

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Dude, in the wiki link YOU posted it lists a company he is a board member on with military contracts. I win
Haha that's my little squeegee. Dumb as dirt but he doesn't give a fuck. 🤷‍♂️ :ROFLMAO:
There you go Butt, you now fall into Jimi class of "enlightened" *$%@#...LMAO

This is the board you are speaking of


Read and try to understand what exactly this company does! Try hard and don't come off as a Jimi the clown persona.

which he was before working for your hero and cult leader. Did I miss somewhere where it says he currently sits on the board of a military company and NOT THAT there would be anything wrong with it, he's a EX army general, swoooosh, but that goes over your head because you pretend to want the US to be demilitarized. Consider Trump wants to use the military against Americans that won't fly now will it?

"Before joining the Trump administration in January 2017, Kelly had been on the board of advisors of DC Capital Partners, an investment firm that owns Caliburn International. Kelly was selected as the first Secretary of Homeland Security in the Trump administration. Kelly earned a reputation for being an aggressive enforcer of immigration law. After six months, he was selected to replace Reince Priebus as White House Chief of Staff in an attempt to bring more stability to the White House.[2] He was the first career military officer to serve in the position since Alexander Haig during the Nixon and Ford administrations.[3]"
 

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Biden has consistently tried to get PM Israel to negotiate a peace deal, free the hostages in exchange for Hamas prisoners (unfair balance since to many more were released in last hostage deal) yet guarantee the security of Israel. Most of the Western free word had supported Biden's' leadership to end the war. But neither side wants to end it. Biden has sent Blinkin on 11 trips to the middle east, discuss with Allies, and Quatar as intermediate to get a peace deal and emphasizes the ending of the innocent bloodshed in Gaza etc. But Israel is fighting against those that seek its destruction and believe they need to destroy them to ever have peace.

At least the response to the Iran sending massive missiles into Israel to only go after military targets most leaders credit Biden for seemingly convincing Israel to not do more extensive attacks on Iran to try and not escalate further.
Did he try by restricting arms?

No?

Hmmm, so then he has failed quite miserably.

Look, I fully support Israel. Have Said as much numerous times. But we are now discussing it from the Arab American perspective and how they perceived it. It's called empathy. And so when they choose not to vote for either party because of the policies I can't and won't blame them. When they choose a protest vote it's a valid choice. If it was your family member dead, displaced I wouldn't blame you either.

Michael Moore said as much on MSNBC on Joy Reid. He said he won't insult them by demanding their vote and is looking elsewhere in Michigan for votes. The Dems can't win this one. It's essentially a no win for that vote and you should just accept it.
 

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There you go Butt, you now fall into Jimi class of "enlightened" *$%@#...LMAO

This is the board you are speaking of


Read and try to understand what exactly this company does! Try hard and don't come off as a Jimi the clown persona.

which he was before working for your hero and cult leader. Did I miss somewhere where it says he currently sits on the board of a military company and NOT THAT there would be anything wrong with it, he's a EX army general, swoooosh, but that goes over your head because you pretend to want the US to be demilitarized. Consider Trump wants to use the military against Americans that won't fly now will it?

"Before joining the Trump administration in January 2017, Kelly had been on the board of advisors of DC Capital Partners, an investment firm that owns Caliburn International. Kelly was selected as the first Secretary of Homeland Security in the Trump administration. Kelly earned a reputation for being an aggressive enforcer of immigration law. After six months, he was selected to replace Reince Priebus as White House Chief of Staff in an attempt to bring more stability to the White House.[2] He was the first career military officer to serve in the position since Alexander Haig during the Nixon and Ford administrations.[3]"
It's a military contractor. The CEO was an arms dealer. It's a subsidiary of the War Machine.

I win.
 
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How is that "tirelessly working on a ceasefire thing every day" working out? Maybe we should ask Liz Cheney to broker a peace deal?
Answer is neither side wants it. Biden can not force a deal only use persuasion which hasn't worked other than to it seems rain in the counter attack on Iran. Trump has no idea how to end it other than saying the war happened under Biden which makes no sense. Biden had nothing to do with the Oct mass attack on Israel. It would happened the same if Trump had been Pres in the October massacre of Israel.
 

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It's a military contractor. The CEO was an arms dealer. It's a subsidiary of the War Machine.

I win.
YOU LOSE because you can't read or you just enjoy making shit up!

Also, do you have anything that he even still sits on the board? If you read it you would know it was prior to working with Trump but I get it, never let facts ruin your fantasy.


About Acuity International

Acuity International, headquartered in Reston, Virginia, provides process and technology-based critical services to global government and commercial enterprises. With expertise in a range of engineering and consulting, software solutions, medical care, occupational health, global mission, environmental remediation, and secure and complex construction management services, augmented by deep expertise in cybersecurity, artificial intelligence, and cloud solutions, Acuity International is positioned to assist its customers in their critical missions anywhere in the world with the latest technology and repeatable processes.
 

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Answer is neither side wants it. Biden can not force a deal only use persuasion which hasn't worked other than to it seems rain in the counter attack on Iran. Trump has no idea how to end it other than saying the war happened under Biden which makes no sense. Biden had nothing to do with the Oct mass attack on Israel. It would happened the same if Trump had been Pres in the October massacre of Israel.
80% of dem voters want it.
Too bad Harris chose to aid genocide.
 

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And the result would be the mass destruction of Israel and many more lives lost when the Muslim terroists groups could not stage an even more deadly than the 1200 murdered, the hostages and zillions injured, burned alive etc like they did on October - worse than our 9/11.

I don't mean all Muslims, but those that associate themselves with the terroirs groups who were founded and their goal to to wipe out Israel.
Declaring that Muslims want to commit genocide so therefore you need to commit genocide first is pretty nazi level thinking.
Congrats on wiping Palestine off the maps despite the UN ordering Israel to get the fuck out of Palestine and end the illegal occupation within a year.
Bummer that the price is trump winning, and of course trump is Israel's choice, not Harris.

 

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There we go, just like Mitchy about Trump Frankie vomits into every thread with the same shit.
 
Did he try by restricting arms?
No because if he did he would be helping the tourists goals and encourage another Oct like massacre of Israeli.

Look, I fully support Israel. Have Said as much numerous times. But we are now discussing it from the Arab American perspective and how they perceived it. It's called empathy. And so when they choose not to vote for either party because of the policies I can't and won't blame them. When they choose a protest vote it's a valid choice. If it was your family member dead, displaced I wouldn't blame you either.

Michael Moore said as much on MSNBC on Joy Reid. He said he won't insult them by demanding their vote and is looking elsewhere in Michigan for votes. The Dems can't win this one. It's essentially a no win for that vote and you should just accept it.
I largely agree with above. But the choice is supporting Israel or terrorists' and by not voting for either party in such a close election they are helping the Heil Trump side who wants to follow more in Hitlers steps as a dictator and strong man as well as create ongoing division in the US and massive court battles on chaos from such a unleashed mad man whose goal to retribution not anything positive. Or yes he was concepts but no plan on any real issue that makes any sense vs Harris specific plans to help more than the wealth get more wealhty and widen the wealth gap of Trumps proposals not to mention just dumb polices like Tariffs/Sales taxes or as if more drilling would do anything for energy prices when we are at record US production, and no excess refining capacity and lots of leases give by Biden/Harris yo use on private lands, not public.

And Trumps constant lies. Remember when he first ran, he needed no money since he was so rich he could pay for his own campaign. Now making huge profits form his Presidency and relies on donors and special money interests exactly the opposite of his pledge since he was so wealthy. And the Saudi billions given to Jr. He is about as corrupt as the mafia and now wants to turn the Justice Dept and military against his enemies and named Pulaski and Shermer sp? All his fradulent organizations and on and on. A big time criminal now immune from prosecution when Pres per his Supreme Court.

All this should be more of a concern to Arabs and all America vs what can be done to force agreement in the Middle East that would not assure the safely of Israel in order to stop the human shields being used in Gaza
 

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YOU LOSE because you can't read or you just enjoy making shit up!

Also, do you have anything that he even still sits on the board? If you read it you would know it was prior to working with Trump but I get it, never let facts ruin your fantasy.


About Acuity International

Acuity International, headquartered in Reston, Virginia, provides process and technology-based critical services to global government and commercial enterprises. With expertise in a range of engineering and consulting, software solutions, medical care, occupational health, global mission, environmental remediation, and secure and complex construction management services, augmented by deep expertise in cybersecurity, artificial intelligence, and cloud solutions, Acuity International is positioned to assist its customers in their critical missions anywhere in the world with the latest technology and repeatable processes.
Lol. Just admit you asked if he had ties. I found it in your own link. And these companies are all tied together in a quid pro quo web. The generals approve the contracts, then get plum positions later. Kelly was given this one which he then left to try to ride herd on Trump.

It's all right there. Congratulations, you played yourself.
 
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Answer is neither side wants it. Biden can not force a deal only use persuasion which hasn't worked other than to it seems rain in the counter attack on Iran. Trump has no idea how to end it other than saying the war happened under Biden which makes no sense. Biden had nothing to do with the Oct mass attack on Israel. It would happened the same if Trump had been Pres in the October massacre of Israel.
I agree. But the Muslims are questioning why are their tax dollars being used. It's that simple. They aren't asking the government to take their side, they are asking them NOT TO TAKE ONE.

And if not they lose their support.
 

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No because if he did he would be helping the tourists goals and encourage another Oct like massacre of Israeli.



I largely agree with above. But the choice is supporting Israel or terrorists' and by not voting for either party in such a close election they are helping the Heil Trump side who wants to follow more in Hitlers steps as a dictator and strong man as well as create ongoing division in the US and massive court battles on chaos from such a unleashed mad man whose goal to retribution not anything positive. Or yes he was concepts but no plan on any real issue that makes any sense vs Harris specific plans to help more than the wealth get more wealhty and widen the wealth gap of Trumps proposals not to mention just dumb polices like Tariffs/Sales taxes or as if more drilling would do anything for energy prices when we are at record US production, and no excess refining capacity and lots of leases give by Biden/Harris yo use on private lands, not public.

And Trumps constant lies. Remember when he first ran, he needed no money since he was so rich he could pay for his own campaign. Now making huge profits form his Presidency and relies on donors and special money interests exactly the opposite of his pledge since he was so wealthy. And the Saudi billions given to Jr. He is about as corrupt as the mafia and now wants to turn the Justice Dept and military against his enemies and named Pulaski and Shermer sp? All his fradulent organizations and on and on. A big time criminal now immune from prosecution when Pres per his Supreme Court.

All this should be more of a concern to Arabs and all America vs what can be done to force agreement in the Middle East that would not assure the safely of Israel in order to stop the human shields being used in Gaza
They don't care. It's about taking sides. They aren't going to be pragmatic anymore than a Ukrainian will be. They just want it to stop. A simple ceasefire. I get it. Hamas is on the ropes(and will take decades to reorganize) so they are desperate to sue for a ceasefire to do just that. And Israel appears to be taking a page out of the Sri Lankan playbook looking to wipe them out at whatever cost.

I agree with this. It's a fight with no quarter and will only end with a winner and a loser. In this I choose Israel. But I won't insult the families of innocents in Gaza by also slapping then in the face saying they are bad people for wanting it to stop to save lives. It's a no win from a humanitarian perspective.

Stop trying to mitigate the decisions and just accept the notion that the Biden/Harris administration is willing to let Israel do what they have to to secure long term USA interests in the region. And to fund it.
 

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Imagine Kamala doing a long form interview on her economic policies, whether you agree with it or not.

Like this:


Keep imagining. You'll never see it. It'll never exist.

But it doesn't matter... soon she'll be relegated to the dustbin of political history.
 
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