Its really just too bad Harris decided to support the genocide in Israel instead of the views of her voters.
She looks to have blown her chance.
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She looks to have blown her chance.
To say Harris is for genocide is a lie and the typical distortion of facts without a full understanding of the complex situation.
Harris has made it clear there needs to be an end to the war and the release of the remaining hostages. Innocents being used by Hamas as human shields are being killed, which has to stop. Biden has been forceful in discussions with Israel and sent Blinken and other U.S. officials on an 11th-long trip to the Middle East to get a settlement.
What should Israel do when on Oct 7th they had as a percentage of population a worse attack than our 9/11 with Hamas a terror organization whose founding and goal his to destroy Israel right next to them in Gaza and hiding and shooting rockets into Israel from homes and under hospitals etc.? Ok, just stop going after them and allow them to do another mass massacre like Oct 7th?
Harris clearly supports peace, and the US is primarily supplying defensive weapons like Iron Dome and the newest Thad missile defense system. But part of the defense is the large US bombs with the ability to destroy the Hamas underground tunnels.
Biden has tried to get Israel PM to a peace agreement, but neither he nor Hamas seems willing to any agreement. Israel wants a security agreement and Hamas wants to destroy Israel.
I disagree with some of Israel's policies such as settlements in the West Bank
But it is a far more complicated situation and to say Harris is for genocide is a lie and the typical distortion of facts without a full understanding of the complex situation.
At least it seems Biden was able to convinced Israel to only do a military retaliatory attack on Iron for their 178? Missiles that attacked Israel instead of hitting more serious nuke or oil structures avoiding it seems, any civilian deaths. Unlike the Gaza situation, where noncombatants are being used as human shields.
Can someone who has listened to it (Rogan-Trump Podcast) tell me whether Trump is at all challenged by Rogan?
Or is it hours of Rogan pandering to Trump? Is anything like Jan. 6th, Trump's crimes, affairs, revolving door of advisors during his presidency, Epstein connections & refusal to release the list, Russian money flowing into people like Musk, etc... brought up?
I don't need even need Trump to be slammed or anything like that - but are those issues even brought up?
Or is it hours of Rogan pandering to Trump? Is anything like Jan. 6th, Trump's crimes, affairs, revolving door of advisors during his presidency, Epstein connections & refusal to release the list, Russian money flowing into people like Musk, etc... brought up?
I don't need even need Trump to be slammed or anything like that - but are those issues even brought up?
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Except who gives a shit?...
The Rogan show is part of the rightie media echo sphere by and large. Much cyber ink has been spilled in this thread attempting to show that Rogan isn't a total ass kisser and can be independent. But his past choice of guests and topics marks him out to be far right.
Few who watch the show would ever conceivably vote for Harris. And Rogan's own views are likely to be hostile to her. She could use the same time slot more productively appearing on other shows and reaching out to independent voters.
Yes, John Kelly is always in the news, YA OKAY Butt. More Butt facts pulled out and attempted to be smeared.
Did you get this ridiculous talking point you just threw out from Vance??
You are such a in the closet Trump Sycophant is entertaining.
You should be able to follow the logic here.
The Rogan show wasn't important until the Harris campaign made it important by getting into talks with him. I don't always understand the cultural zeitgeist, but podcasts are currently big and his podcast is the biggest. Rogan now attracts a lot of attention. I don't think Rogan wanted to be in the middle of the political battle this year.
Perhaps you are right about appearing on other shows, but at this point I think she would reaching the same audience repeatedly. At least Rogan's audience would be new to her. I already mentioned his audience probably favors legalized cannabis and is pro-abortion. There are also certainly young black men who listen to Rogan.
Lastly, have you watched his show? He isn't hostile his guests. He uses his long-form format to give guests a podium. He does ask questions, but they're not unexpected or adversarial. Brett Baier could be considered far more adversarial than Rogan would ever be.
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Harris is very much for the genocide, there is no doubt. Walz even stated that he and Harris support the US policy of 'expansion'. The US could have ended the genocide by ending all weapons deliveries to Israel, instead they sent an extra $8 billion for an invasion in Lebanon and sent US planes to refill for Israel's attack on Iran. Both Biden and her have said they support a ceasefire while sending $40 billion in bombs, blocking all UN actions, attacking the ICC and ICJ and sending in US soldiers to aid in the genocide.
This is why she has lost the Muslim vote, lots of the youth vote and minority votes.
There is a good chance this will cost her the election.
How fucked does your stance have to be to lose the Muslim vote to the guy who pushed for a ban on Muslims?
He was a general and as most generals take orders from above but wait for Vance to send you his next talking points so you are better prepared.
But here's what you leave out.
The choice isn't between going on Rogan and sitting at home on your living room couch. Presumably, there are other events that are scheduled for Harris which are rated as being more useful or less potentially problematical.
Is there something wrong with sitting on your living room couch? I have a fridge full of beer and the NFL is on today.
Maybe. I read she's still making planning to make appearances to get out the suburban women vote. My opinion is they're on-board by now and the smaller group of suburban women who aren't are also locked in to vote for Trump.
Do we really know what info and strategy her campaign has? The fine points, I mean.
In other words some of the youth and minority and Muslims are very fucked in the head because they now effectively support the guy who pushed for a ban on Muslims
They get promoted for being warmongers, then get plum positions after as lobbyists and board members in the arms industry.
You really that naive?
Please point out any facts, NOT FICTION, that you have about John Kelly being a lobbyist or sitting on a board for the arms industry. Unless you can, then you are pretty much full of shit, right?
John F. Kelly - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
https://www.defense.gov/About/Biographies/Biography/article/602724/general-john-f-kelly/https://www.defense.gov/About/Biographies/Biography/article/602724/general-john-f-kelly/
Go ahead, show us, prove you don't just make shit up.
I disagree. They were plenty of votes to be mined in his audience. Lots of independent, 18-34 men who were voting for RFK, like Tulsi Gabbard, and could be swayed.
Ad with the margins in the swing states, changing 50,000 votes in Michigan or Penn with one podcast is a game changer. Especially this late.
Please point out any facts, NOT FICTION, that you have about John Kelly being a lobbyist or sitting on a board for the arms industry. Unless you can, then you are pretty much full of shit, right?
John F. Kelly - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
https://www.defense.gov/About/Biographies/Biography/article/602724/general-john-f-kelly/https://www.defense.gov/About/Biographies/Biography/article/602724/general-john-f-kelly/
Go ahead, show us, prove you don't just make shit up.
When 80 percent of US generals go to work for arms makers
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80%
And your Wiki page lists Acuity international with him as a board member. Look at their link. I win.
