No if the shooter had hit it would have sparked a civil war. I hope this turns into a positive thing where both sides realize what happens if you rile up people too much. The nutty right wingers who are blaming Biden need to be silenced and cancelled immediately
Trump just survided an assassination attempt
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Nice try...I know you're dying inside that Teflon Don is alive and is on his way to a 2nd term... nobodybis blaming the democrats with this...could be just a crazy line wolf doing his thing...but the fact is...Trump had a lot of stuff thrown at him in the past frlew year leading up to this....and every step of the way...he's looking like a victim more and more...
Nah I enjoy watching MAGA tears every time they lose which is every time since the freak outcome in 2016. Donnie Jussie Trump brought all his problems on himself. He didn't have to claim thr j6 terrorists were political prisoners, he didn't have to encourage violence against prosecutors and judges, he didn't have to steal documents from the Whitehouse and refuse to give them back, he didn't have to slander e Jean carrol after he was found liable for sexual assault, he didn't have to dox Obama, he didn't have to keep lying about the bidens being criminals. He did it all to himself and while I do believe he belongs in jail I do not condone him being murdered
Apparently a police officer confronted the suspect on the roof moments before the assassination attempt. Wouldn't your first instinct as a police officer be to shoot the suspect dead? And why wasn't he immediately on his radio warning armed suspect on the roof? This is getting more bizarre by the hour.
Yes all this rhetoric of Trump is a threat to democracy and Trump is going to start WWIII, Trump is a criminal, a fraudster, a pedophile.........it most definitely played a role in this. I also have a strong feeling they will be suppressing information about the shooter other than that he was a registered Republican.
Add on.....shooter apparently had time in at a community College for some sort of engineering courses.
Actually need to edit this as he did have community college courses in engineering.
Seattle, Portland and so on......
Real anarchy* with local progressive governments that were empathetic of the protest. It would be ridiculous to think everyone who was affected was on-board with the protesters.
* not just a couple hours
It's only getting more bizarre in your head because you, nor any of us, know the complete story.
When you climb up a ladder and poke your head up over the eave...to face an AR15 pointed at you, MY first instinct would be to DUCK and get out of the line of fire. He already has the draw on you. And your gun is probably holstered to climb the ladder. And it's pretty hard to make a good quick shot offhand on a ladder so the experienced cop would have abided by his training and good judgment to take cover before HE takes one to the head.
Could be that he DID make an immediate radio call and that's how whichever sniper took him out knew where to look. Or maybe he didn't have time or a free hand to make an immediate radio call while he was trying to get down the ladder and take cover.
Or maybe there was a systemic fuckup and the local PD, FBI and SS were working on different radio frequencies for different sectors and there was a, or a few, people in the command center coordinating the various assets and sectors. If there were 50 LE officers (locl, state, FBI and SS) at a minimum, they can't all be on the same frequency on two way radios. Unlike a phone, most of these radios are simplex, meaning that you can only have one transmission broadcast at a time. Otherwise you "step on" the first transmission and nothing gets heard.
None of us know until it is all patched together in a timeline. Like the NTSB does with aviation accidents.
Having said that... my PURE speculation from all that I have heard, seen and read is that this was a disaffected kid who was outcast by bullies, and maybe frustrated with Trump and MAGA-types who decided to end his life in a blaze of glory.
I'd also say that the SS and local LE had risk homeostasis and this was just another of the hundreds of Trump Rallies with his supporters so their security may have been more routine and perfunctory.
I'm far less inclined to think that this was some organized operation where all the cops and SS were deliberately ignoring the guy and giving him a free shot because he was planted as a stooge. If a professional team was inclined, anyone can be taken out by a sniper. In the hands of an reasonably trained shooter, a 50 cal MacMillan can reliably hit and kill a man wearing body armour from one kilometer away. It''s impossible to protect out that far.
Not to say not to have the coversation or to speculate. Our forum means absolutely nothing so we can shoot the shit all we want.
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But Trump IS a fraudster, criminal and sex offender. This word "pedophile" is tossed around by ignorant people. A pedophile is one who is sexually attrracted to PRE-PUBESCENTS. Maybe Trump is a Ephebephile, being one who is attracted to post-pubescent late adolescents and his neocortex can't interrupt that primitive attraction.
Either way, his sex drive has certainly affected his life. But I wouldn't call him a "pedophile".
Interesting read here:
SEX OFFENSE: Hebephilia – Arizona Forensics, LLC
arizonaforensics.com
“Pedophilia” refers to sexual attraction to pre-pubescent children.
“Hebephilia” refers to sexual attraction to post-pubescent minors age 11-14 .
“Ephebephilia” is sexual interest to those in later adolescence, approximately 15–19 years old.
There are strong and consistent findings in the research literature that reveal:
- Attraction to post-pubescent adolescents is normal for healthy adult males. It is a matter of biology. The “primitive brain” (mesolimbic system) in a healthy male identifies primary and secondary body characteristics in a pubescent female that signal she is capable of bearing children. The primitive brain has no sense of morality – it is pure primitive instinct. It is the job of the “thinking brain” (neocortex) to interrupt primitive impulse. Everyone experiences “inhibitory struggle” on a regular basis – whether to eat the extra donut, sleep past the alarm clock, drink too much at the bar after work, etc. This contrasting tension between our “two brains” is the basis for civilized behavior in civilized society.
- The distinction of pedophilia vs hebephilia has important implications for recovery and future risk. Pedophilia is a biologically abnormal impulse that can involve significant defect in personality and psychological health. In contrast, hebephilic actions involve “normal” impulse that are not successfully inhibited by the neocortex. These actions do not require defect in personality or psychological functioning. Notice that the DSM-5 has a diagnostic category for pedophilia but does not identify hebephilia as a mental disorder.
- Research reveals someone struggling with hebephilia is more responsive to treatment as compared to a pedophile. With proper treatment, someone with hebephilia also has a better prognosis against future relapse.
- Research suggests 3% upper limit for pedophilia and hebephilia, and 1% for strictly pedophilia. (Santilla, et al., 2010)
I think this was partly an inside job. Biden wanted Trump killed because Biden was losing the election to Trump. No other reason why the secret service and local law enforcement, would just let a 20 yr kid use a ladder to climb up on a roof, within 150 yards of Trump. As usual, just my opinion!!
Who cares about all this technical stuff. The secret service totally fawked up, and almost got Trump killed!!
IMHO, women don't belong in the secret service, especially to protect a guy as important, as Trump!!
IMHO, Trump needs a "tough" VP, not a loser like Pence, who Trump mistakenly chose in 2016. The Dems are coming for Trump "full throttle", and Trump needs a tough VP like JD Vance or Vivek. I totally agree with Matt Walsh!!
If this is true the officer should be terminated immediately. Retreating from an imminent threat is an act of cowardice.
