Trump gets a $355 million kick to the crotch, will he pay up?

Butler1000

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Your home has a market value. If it is appraised it is so at today's market value. You do not get to tell a lender your home is worth 5M while in reality, it is worth only 1.2M. If you do so on an application it can be looked at as an attempt to garner more funds, in other words, a FRAUD.
What lender ever accepts an owner’s valuation? And remember he PAID BACK THE LOAN. So where is the fraud? The lender decides the value. Not the owner.
 
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What lender ever accepts an owner’s valuation? And remember he PAID BACK THE LOAN. So where is the fraud? The lender decides the value. Not the owner.
Once again you are applying BUTLER logic instead of reality. IF YOU misrepresent and lie on a mortgage application, YOU CAN be charged with FRAUD!!! That's it, case closed, that is reality. Sure in most cases the bank requires an appraisal but that has nothing to do with if you lie on an application you can be charged with fraud.
 

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What lender ever accepts an owner’s valuation? And remember he PAID BACK THE LOAN. So where is the fraud? The lender decides the value. Not the owner.
But he got a lower interest rate - or access to the loan $. And some of the debts were not paid back. He went bankrupt and screwed creditors a lot.
 

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You might see that in your dreams. There is a new word out there, errogant. It's when someone is seriously wrong, but are to wrapped up in themselves to admit it. Smelvis and his crowd fit that definition🤡...
Your opinion is noted but answer my question. When this gets overturned how mad will you people be?
 
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Butler1000

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Once again you are applying BUTLER logic instead of reality. IF YOU misrepresent and lie on a mortgage application, YOU CAN be charged with FRAUD!!! That's it, case closed, that is reality. Sure in most cases the bank requires an appraisal but that has nothing to do with if you lie on an application you can be charged with fraud.
What's the lie? Real estate value is fluid. And the bank testified the were just fine.
 
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The headlines say: “Russian Oligarch CEO spends 9000 dollars on a pair of sneakers to support Trump.” Sounds catchy, but I came from Ukraine (back when it was still the Soviet Union) as a refugee with my dad. The man had 4 dollars in his pocket. I busted my ass since I was 13 years old, worked every dirty job you can think of to get to a point where I can splurge on a $9000 pair of collectible sneakers, served in the U.S. Military to shown my honor and gratitude for the opportunity to do so… But I guess that headline would not have gotten clicks by saying “Russian Refugee,” or “Ukrainian Refugee,” or perhaps… just a man. I wasn’t trying to make a political statement by buying the shoes, but still received a ton of messages saying, “You support Trump, therefore you lost a follower and client.” Here, I thought clients bought watches from Luxury Bazaar, due to our 21 years in business and our personalized service. What a confirmation of how divided this country is. With that said—no mean tweet, comment on IG, or newspaper article will stop me from being a patriot of this great country. This is great country that once took in a poor immigrant and gave me the opportunity to be where I am today. The country that stands to give us all a fighting chance. I love this country, and I am proud to be an American. You wanna hate me for wanting this country to be thriving and unified as one—go ahead and judge this sneakerhead for my politics. But just know that no matter what, I do pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, and God bless America
 

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What lender ever accepts an owner’s valuation? And remember he PAID BACK THE LOAN. So where is the fraud? The lender decides the value. Not the owner.
Wow! Like to see details on where Trump ever "paid back" a loan - rolled over, maybe...
 
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