Trump cuts off Ukraine at knees, We negotiate peace. then you do what we say.

[silentkisser]

WTF ??

this current mess has been ongoing since 2014
Ukraine / Russia have had disputes / conflicts wars for the last 500 years
time to give it a rest for a little while
are there not enough dead bodies for you yet ?

I agree, I'd love to see the war end. But why does that mean Russia gets to keep its stolen territory? Why would the US, the global super power, allow such activity? Why would Vance and Trump try to force Ukraine to sign over valuable mineral rights? I understand that this might be a lot to handle for you, but don't you think a country has a right to defend itself? Germany was emboldened by seizing the Sudetenland, who's to say that Russia wouldn't think about going to, say, Latvia or Estonia.

Would you give in to Russia if they incurred into our territory? Or China? Or the US? Because your responses feel like the answer would be a yes.

 

[dirtydaveiii]

maybe for his next act Trump and Putin will lay out the terms of annexing Canada.

 

[nottyboi]

maybe for his next act Trump and Putin will lay out the terms of annexing Canada.

Putin would not have a say in that, and annexing Canada does not really threaten Russia.

 

[nottyboi]

I agree, I'd love to see the war end. But why does that mean Russia gets to keep its stolen territory? Why would the US, the global super power, allow such activity? Why would Vance and Trump try to force Ukraine to sign over valuable mineral rights? I understand that this might be a lot to handle for you, but don't you think a country has a right to defend itself? Germany was emboldened by seizing the Sudetenland, who's to say that Russia wouldn't think about going to, say, Latvia or Estonia.

Would you give in to Russia if they incurred into our territory? Or China? Or the US? Because your responses feel like the answer would be a yes.

There is a right to self determination in the UN charter, the people in the annexed territories have voted to join Russia, so its all legit. Just like how Quebec can vote to leave.

 

[mandrill]

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While everyone is distracted, here is how Trump proposed to take half of all the mineral wealth of Ukraine. Before the negotiations with Putin. No country has tried anything on this scale since the Treaty of Versailles - and those reparations were taken from enemies not allies.

 

[mandrill]

There is a right to self determination in the UN charter, the people in the annexed territories have voted to join Russia, so its all legit. Just like how Quebec can vote to leave.

Probably the fakest, fixed-est "elections" since - well, since any other bullshit Russian or Soviet elections, I guess!!!!

 

[JohnLarue]

I agree, I'd love to see the war end. But why does that mean Russia gets to keep its stolen territory?

??
you do not always get the outcome you want ...... in a war

Why would the US, the global super power, allow such activity?

why did the US agree to partition Korea in 1953 ?
why did the US abandon south Vietnam in1973 ?
why did the US not complete the invasion of Canada in 1812?

this current conflict has been ongoing since 2014 .
time to put an end the the fighting

Why would Vance and Trump try to force Ukraine to sign over valuable mineral rights?

because they wanted them

I understand that this might be a lot to handle for you, but don't you think a country has a right to defend itself?

Ukraine cant defend itself with out western money , specifically US money
Now the US government is heading down the path of insolvency
The tit has gone dry
You need to wake up to this fact.

Germany was emboldened by seizing the Sudetenland, who's to say that Russia wouldn't think about going to, say, Latvia or Estonia.

who's to say Germany wont give it another go ?

Russia took quite a beating against Ukraine,
If NATO does not push further east, they are likely to stay put
If not, we will cross that bridge when we get to it
For now Russian and Ukrainian youth can focus on a peaceful life instead of becoming corpses

Would you give in to Russia if they incurred into our territory? Or China? Or the US? Because your responses feel like the answer would be a yes.

Did you get a honours degree in stupid ?

 

[nottyboi]

Probably the fakest, fixed-est "elections" since - well, since any other bullshit Russian or Soviet elections, I guess!!!!

If it was really fake Ukraine or the USA would demand a UN monitored referendum. The reason they don't, is they know Russia would win it and the annexation would be fully legitimized. If they thought Russia had no chance of winning, they would demand it just to humiliate Russia. See what I mean by you people being unable to read between the lines? You only believe the tripe force fed to you. 🫡

 

[nottyboi]

More Russians die each week in Ukraine than babies born in Russia. Russia is long term fucked.

So then why worry about them. Let then vanish into history.

 

[wigglee]

Actually, this is the topic and it has nothing to do with Israel.
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Here is the quote from you which I responded to...." The conversation always seems to stop when I ask which country in the middle east is a greater ally to the US than Israel. "

 

[Frankfooter]

Here is the quote from you which I responded to...." The conversation always seems to stop when I ask which country in the middle east is a greater ally to the US than Israel. "

Zionists are always the victim.

trump keeps making the US more and more irrelevant to world politics.
Aligning with Putin is just one more step towards collapse.

 

[silentkisser]

There is a right to self determination in the UN charter, the people in the annexed territories have voted to join Russia, so its all legit. Just like how Quebec can vote to leave.

We can agree on that, but that's not what happened. Do you think that "referendum" back then was legit? Because it was done really quickly, had no opposition campaign, and got 97% "yes," which is, again fishy. Was it really the will of the people of Crimea to do that? Let's not be disingenuous about what happened. I highly doubt that it was the will of the people.

 

[silentkisser]

??
you do not always get the outcome you want ...... in a war



why did the US agree to partition Korea in 1953 ?
why did the US abandon south Vietnam in1973 ?
why did the US not complete the invasion of Canada in 1812?

this current conflict has been ongoing since 2014 .
time to put an end the the fighting



because they wanted them


Ukraine cant defend itself with out western money , specifically US money
Now the US government is heading down the path of insolvency
The tit has gone dry
You need to wake up to this fact.


who's to say Germany wont give it another go ?

Russia took quite a beating against Ukraine,
If NATO does not push further east, they are likely to stay put
If not, we will cross that bridge when we get to it
For now Russian and Ukrainian youth can focus on a peaceful life instead of becoming corpses



Did you get a honours degree in stupid ?

No, but I apparently have a knack in engaging with partisan trolls with the IQ of warm milk. Hi John....

 

[nottyboi]

We can agree on that, but that's not what happened. Do you think that "referendum" back then was legit? Because it was done really quickly, had no opposition campaign, and got 97% "yes," which is, again fishy. Was it really the will of the people of Crimea to do that? Let's not be disingenuous about what happened. I highly doubt that it was the will of the people.

As I said before, if it was, the West would be free to demand a UN monitored referendum in the UN, if Russia refused it, it would delegitimize the annexations. But the west probably knows via intel that Russia would accept it and if they won it would fully legitimize the annexations. 97% yes is not that fishy when you consider that place has been under attack since 2014 and anyone who was pro Ukraine probably left. Many people also left for Russia.

 

[richaceg]

Or righties just giving in to the aggressor. Sad.

Or righties have the common sense to not get dragged into this conflict...it's time for NATO to stop pursuing Ukraine and time for Ukraine to abandon that dream. US spent almost 70% of the entire NATO aid to ukraine...had the rest of the EU just matched the US funding to Ukraine...Russia wouldn't have been so bold to keep going...but no...everybody expects the US to bail everyone out....why does Zelensky act like he's entitiled to all that funding? Because of Joe's promises...

 

[Anbarandy]

Or righties have the common sense to not get dragged into this conflict...it's time for NATO to stop pursuing Ukraine and time for Ukraine to abandon that dream. US spent almost 70% of the entire NATO aid to ukraine...had the rest of the EU just matched the US funding to Ukraine...Russia wouldn't have been so bold to keep going...but no...everybody expects the US to bail everyone out....why does Zelensky act like he's entitiled to all that funding? Because of Joe's promises...

English please, English!

 

[oil&gas]

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Would you give in to Russia if they incurred into our territory? Or China? Or the US? Because your responses feel like the answer would be a yes.

The scenario in such invasions is not quite like what is going
on in the Ukraine War.

Invasion of Canada by Russia will be considered an
attack by other NATO members as an attack on their
ally and military response will be triggered. Invasion
of Canada by the U.S. will be a different situation.
It seems likely Canada would have to fight American invaders
on its own like Iraq.

With Ukraine it is more like NATO's proxy war that initially show the promise of taking
out a potential threat to the west at no cost of human lives and low cost of military and economic aid to the invaded country used as the tool to fight the war. As it turns
out the war is not going well so it seems prudent to opt out of the war though the
U.S. still wants to reap profits from the war by grabbing Ukraine's mineral resources.

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Or righties have the common sense to not get dragged into this conflict...it's time for NATO to stop pursuing Ukraine and time for Ukraine to abandon that dream. US spent almost 70% of the entire NATO aid to ukraine...had the rest of the EU just matched the US funding to Ukraine...Russia wouldn't have been so bold to keep going...but no...everybody expects the US to bail everyone out....why does Zelensky act like he's entitiled to all that funding? Because of Joe's promises...

Was it Joe who signed the Budapest memorandum in 1994 ? Russia got the nukes and then fucked over the Ukraine. Now sleazeball rapist convicted felon Trump lies and blames Ukraine for starting the war and is taking away their sovereignty. This is way worse than when he fucked over Afghanistan. It hasn't even been a month and the world is greatly destabilized due to trumps dictator policies. He said he will be a dictator from day one and so far that's one of the few promises he's made good on

 

[JohnLarue]

No, but I apparently have a knack in engaging with partisan trolls with the IQ of warm milk. Hi John....

too funny

still backing all the ideological failures of the moron Trudeau?

you should learn how to think for yourself before questioning anyone's IQ

 

[richaceg]

Was it Joe who signed the Budapest memorandum in 1994 ?

It wasn't Trump either...Trump wants this war to stop...enough lives were lost...Even if Russia removes it's troops from Ukraine Tomorrow...you'd still be whining.