Transgender runner blows out competition, sets season records in girls' races at Oregon high

Butler1000

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Did you not read me making fun of you for this idea in a previous post. You're just salty that your poorly conceived argument fell apart and now just want to make up bullshit.

It's obvious you have no interest in discussing what's fair or women's sports but simply feel the need to protect your ego and overinflated sense of self.
Deflection

On this you are just wrong.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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It's intellectually dishonest and pathetic of you to post this. You're broken.
What I posted is both a politically and scientifically accurate description of the issue.
Your inability to absorb new information, learn and progress, is not my fault.
 
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While the State of Maine has apologized for their Governor’s strong, but totally incorrect, statement about men playing in women’s sports while at the White House House Governor’s Conference, we have not heard from the Governor herself, and she is the one that matters in such cases. Therefore, we need a full throated apology from the Governor herself, and a statement that she will never make such an unlawful challenge to the Federal Government again, before this case can be settled. I’m sure she will be able to do that quite easily. Thank you for your attention to this matter and, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!! DJT Donald Trump Truth Social Post 3/22/25 07:39 AM
Proof that the orange turd is a fascist bully of the lowest order. IMPEACH NOW!!!
 
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From the link that you posted:

Sex refers to a set of biological attributes in humans and animals. It is primarily associated with physical and physiological features including chromosomes, gene expression, hormone levels and function, and reproductive/sexual anatomy

So then sex is an immutable trait. It is not "assigned" by anyone. It is identified at birth. There is no ambiguity.

Athletic competition is restricted to members of the same sex. Regardless of what your self-described gender is.
 

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From the link that you posted:

Sex refers to a set of biological attributes in humans and animals. It is primarily associated with physical and physiological features including chromosomes, gene expression, hormone levels and function, and reproductive/sexual anatomy

So then sex is an immutable trait. It is not "assigned" by anyone. It is identified at birth. There is no ambiguity.

Athletic competition is restricted to members of the same sex. Regardless of what your self-described gender is.
This is from a judge who educated trump's lawyer on gender.

 
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southpaw

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What I posted is both a politically and scientifically accurate description of the issue.
This is the crux of the issue. Politics and science are not the same thing. Politics is done by consensus. Science is done by evidence.

If 99% of scientists believed the world is flat, and one scientist came along and proved the world is round. Guess what? He is right. Fuck the consensus.

Stop politicizing science!
 

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So then sex is an immutable trait. It is not "assigned" by anyone. It is identified at birth. There is no ambiguity.

Athletic competition is restricted to members of the same sex. Regardless of what your self-described gender is.
It is identified and assigned as appropriate.
Some people are born intersex and therefore it has to be assigned based on observations.
Sex isn't the topic of discussion.
Gender is.
Sports categorizations are by gender. Not sex.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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This is the crux of the issue. Politics and science are not the same thing.
I did not say they were the same things.
I said that my description of the issue was both politically and scientifically accurate.
Scientifically it is agreed by medical professionals that sex and gender are not the same things.
Your opposition to it is your opinion.
But that doesn't change what medical professionals widely regard to be scientifically true, which is that sex and gender are not the same things.
 

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This is the crux of the issue. Politics and science are not the same thing. Politics is done by consensus. Science is done by evidence.

If 99% of scientists believed the world is flat, and one scientist came along and proved the world is round. Guess what? He is right. Fuck the consensus.

Stop politicizing science!
There are lots of species that change sex naturally.
Just as the judge noted there are 30 intersex human possibilities.

Your 1% scientist still has to have enough evidence that the other 99% will accept his theory before they change theirs.
So who is your scientist who is going to change the world?
 

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It is identified and assigned as appropriate.
Some people are born intersex and therefore it has to be assigned based on observations.
Sex isn't the topic of discussion.
Gender is.
Sports categorizations are by gender. Not sex.
We're not talking about intersex people who are a statistically insignificant proportion of the population.

We're talking about biological men competing against biological women. Stop conflating intersex people with men in drag.

Sport has always been categorized by sex since the beginning of sports competition, not gender.
 
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Intersex people are both male and female as the word "intersex" indicates. They're not a third gender or sex. Remember, there are only two sexes/genders.
And they are both of them at the same time?
go on, explain how that means there are only two sexes.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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We're not talking about intersex people who are a statistically insignificant proportion of the population.
Trans athletes are statistically insignificant proportion of the population as well.
And sports is categorized by gender, not sex.
We call it the men's team and the women's team. We don't say the male team and female team.
 

Bucktee

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And they are both of them at the same time?
go on, explain how that means there are only two sexes.
One sex has a penis, the other has a vagina & tits.

The intersex person has a combination of the above.

The people claiming to be trans have a dick and want to compete against the people that have a vagina. Get it?
 
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Trans athletes are statistically insignificant proportion of the population as well.
This is true and irrelevant in sport.

One trans athlete is enough to smash women's athletic records for all time. Because men and women are built differently.

We've already seen this, in spite of trans athletes being a teeny tiny proportion of athletes.

And sports is categorized by gender, not sex.
We call it the men's team and the women's team. We don't say the male team and female team.
Men = male
Women = female

In sport, sex corresponds with gender. There are only two sexes and two genders.
 
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