Transgender runner blows out competition, sets season records in girls' races at Oregon high
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This is the crux of the issue. Politics and science are not the same thing. Politics is done by consensus. Science is done by evidence.
If 99% of scientists believed the world is flat, and one scientist came along and proved the world is round. Guess what? He is right. Fuck the consensus.
Stop politicizing science!
It is identified and assigned as appropriate.
Some people are born intersex and therefore it has to be assigned based on observations.
Sex isn't the topic of discussion.
Gender is.
Sports categorizations are by gender. Not sex.
I did not say they were the same things.
I said that my description of the issue was both politically and scientifically accurate.
Scientifically it is agreed by medical professionals that sex and gender are not the same things.
Your opposition to it is your opinion.
But that doesn't change what medical professionals widely regard to be scientifically true, which is that sex and gender are not the same things.
There are lots of species that change sex naturally.
Just as the judge noted there are 30 intersex human possibilities.
Your 1% scientist still has to have enough evidence that the other 99% will accept his theory before they change theirs.
So who is your scientist who is going to change the world?
We're not talking about intersex people who are a statistically insignificant proportion of the population.
We're talking about biological men competing against biological women. Stop conflating intersex people with men in drag.
Sport has always been categorized by sex since the beginning of sports competition, not gender.
Intersex people are both male and female as the word "intersex" indicates. They're not a third gender or sex. Remember, there are only two sexes/genders.This is from a judge who educated trump's lawyer on gender.
And they are both of them at the same time?
go on, explain how that means there are only two sexes.
Trans athletes are statistically insignificant proportion of the population as well.
And sports is categorized by gender, not sex.
We call it the men's team and the women's team. We don't say the male team and female team.
One sex has a penis, the other has a vagina & tits.
The intersex person has a combination of the above.
The people claiming to be trans have a dick and want to compete against the people that have a vagina. Get it?
This is true and irrelevant in sport.
One trans athlete is enough to smash women's athletic records for all time. Because men and women are built differently.
We've already seen this, in spite of trans athletes being a teeny tiny proportion of athletes.
Men = male
Women = female
In sport, sex corresponds with gender. There are only two sexes and two genders.
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Not asking if they self-identify as trans. Asking if they fall outside of the regular XX/XY binary.
Wrong. Even if they don't accept his theory: if it's correct, it's correct. Science is not done by consensus.
Yes.
And men are not competing in women's sports. So this is a non issue.
Trans women being women, only women compete in women's sports.
They are a statistically insignificant number and all this noise is just the MAGA obsession with race, gender and sexual orientation.
As the name suggests, sports teams are by gender, not sex.
Trans women are not women. That's why we use the prefix trans, to differentiate the fact that the individual is a biological male that believes he's a woman. Such men don't belong in women's sports.
Yes, the word trans indicates that their gender identity is that of a woman.
Since gender identity and sex are not the same things, a trans woman is a woman.
No, you don't get to be anything that you merely "identify" as. That's not how reality works and it's the height of stupidity.
As an adult you should know this by now.
A trans woman is a trans woman; not a woman.
