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Dundas town, now part of Hamilton city, was known as Cootes Paradise and Spencer Creek before name change to Dundas.

Dundas st is named after the town that the street originates in. So rename the town first?? :)
Need to learn geography pal Hwy 5 (Dundas Street) is nowhere near the Town of Dundas.
 

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Hhmm.....so look what I found about the dude who Kitchener was named after




This guy sounded like a real asshole. He killed 12,000 Sudanese and also ran a concentration camp for POW's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_concentration_camps

Just for fun we should start a fake petition to get Kitchener's name changed.
Lets see if those pussy politicians will cave in to our demands 😂
Believe Kitchener Ontario was Berlin Ontario until mid-way through WW1 and mob sentiments being anti-German forced a name change. Same reason why the royals changed their name from Saxe-Coburg-Gotha to "Windsor"....sounded too German at a time when too many young men were getting killed in the war.
 
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I have a theory that Tory has gone along with this as a way of looking like he is doing something without actually doing something (a Humphrey move to allude to previous comments) because supposedly Toronto can't do this unilaterally because the land ownership system (love it or hate it) registers land by municipal street. I'm no lawyer but think that this would mean that Ontario would have to effect the change as well or else we will have two streets....and Tory looks like he tried but it was just those darned Tories at Queen's Park....
 
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Why then do we still celebrate the monarchy in this country then? Get rid of the images of the Queen, Victoria Day, etc. or anything that's remotely attached to the monarchy. By extension, that means The Charter of Rights and Freedoms should go too because The Queen signed it into law. We should also get rid of the British parliamentary system we're still holding onto.

It should be clear that the lists of things to be offended about has no end. There's no practical way to cleanse all of that out of the country. Even if you could, it won't change happening on the ground in the reserves. Focus on those problems first! As for road signs, I believe the MTO does that work so it really only benefits those workers.
Absolutely, why do you need queen and king of England to be head of Canada state anyway? I don't see anything that Canada needs to have a king or queen of other country to be Canadian head of state. Frankly, we don't need Victoria Day as well. Why do we need to have a birthday of Queen Victoria of England to be our holidays?

Similarly, we don't need English style of parliament to be here in Canada. We can create our own parliament system. Looking at the Americans, after they broke out from England by mean of bloody war, American doesn't need to have king or queen of England to be head of American state. American have their own house and senator systems which is not the English style parliament. In addition, they have the birthdays of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln as their holidays and not the birthday of Queen Victoria.

I hope you see and understand my point.
 

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Why do we need to have a birthday of Queen Victoria of England to be our holidays?

Similarly, we don't need English style of parliament to be here in Canada. We can create our own parliament system. Looking at the Americans, after they broke out from England by mean of bloody war, American doesn't need to have king or queen of England to be head of American state. American have their own house and senator systems which is not the English style parliament
I can see getting rid of Queen Victoria day. For the Canadas she just isn't all that important.

As for looking to the Americans for guidance on how to run a government. Hell to the no. The US is where good government goes to die. It's a complete hot mess.

 
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NotADcotor

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We should name the street Doug the Thug Glatt from the movie Goon.
1: Can't go wrong with 'ockey on da h'ice
2: He is a goon and a strong family man so the Cherry boys will love him.
3: His brother is gay and he will fuck your shit up if you say anything about the gay. Also his play style has been likened to being gay porn hard. Also he is best friends with someone who is about as socially retarded as you can get while still being neurotypical. Sort of counts are being special needs friendly and diversity friendly. So the Woke crowd will be OK with it.
4: He steps up to protect an annoying French teammate so even the 5 French people in the GTA will be OK with him.
 

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I hope you see and understand my point.
What point? You just rehashed what I wrote earlier.

There's certainly precedent for countries to move from a parliamentary system to something else, but what for? That will take a lot of debate, time and resources.

Meanwhile the situation in the reserves doesn't change.
 

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Why don't we just black out the last three letters "das" and rename the street and whatever "Dun"? A small can of paint and we're done. Let's get on with our lives.
 

NotADcotor

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Why don't we just black out the last three letters "das" and rename the street and whatever "Dun"? A small can of paint and we're done. Let's get on with our lives.
Or just leave the Das.

Anyone who speaks German can't be all that bad.

die Bart die, it means the Bart the.
 
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Absolutely, why do you need queen and king of England to be head of Canada state anyway? I don't see anything that Canada needs to have a king or queen of other country to be Canadian head of state. Frankly, we don't need Victoria Day as well. Why do we need to have a birthday of Queen Victoria of England to be our holidays?

Similarly, we don't need English style of parliament to be here in Canada. We can create our own parliament system. Looking at the Americans, after they broke out from England by mean of bloody war, American doesn't need to have king or queen of England to be head of American state. American have their own house and senator systems which is not the English style parliament. In addition, they have the birthdays of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln as their holidays and not the birthday of Queen Victoria.

I hope you see and understand my point.
For starters, Victoria was never "Queen of England". There's been no "Queen of England" since 1707. There is also no "English" style parliament. It's the Westminster system we use in Canada and it's "British".

Also, Canada is a member of the Commonwealth of Nations, like New Zealand and Australia. We all tip our hat to our history as former members of the British Empire and current members of the Commonwealth.

As far as "looking at the Americans", why do people like you think we always need to be "looking at the Americans" for guidance?

Nope, don't understand your point. Any of them.
 

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Lord Kitchener committed numerous atrocities in the name of Empire, most notably putting Boer families into concentration camps. The British wanted Boer gold mines for themselves.

Victoria Day should be changed to Terry Fox Day and his Run should be held then.

 
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For starters, Victoria was never "Queen of England". There's been no "Queen of England" since 1707. There is also no "English" style parliament. It's the Westminster system we use in Canada and it's "British".

Also, Canada is a member of the Commonwealth of Nations, like New Zealand and Australia. We all tip our hat to our history as former members of the British Empire and current members of the Commonwealth.

As far as "looking at the Americans", why do people like you think we always need to be "looking at the Americans" for guidance?

Nope, don't understand your point. Any of them.
I really like hearing your " why do people think we always need to be "looking at the Americans".
I fucking hate when my friends say shit like that.
Example, "Americans do it why can't we". Or everything is better in the US. Well then fuck off and move their.
 
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I really like hearing your " why do people think we always need to be "looking at the Americans".
I fucking hate when my friends say shit like that.
Example, "Americans do it why can't we". Or everything is better in the US. Well then fuck off and move their.
I'd upvote that post 1,000 times, if only I could.
 
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Absolutely, why do you need queen and king of England to be head of Canada state anyway? I don't see anything that Canada needs to have a king or queen of other country to be Canadian head of state. Frankly, we don't need Victoria Day as well. Why do we need to have a birthday of Queen Victoria of England to be our holidays?

Similarly, we don't need English style of parliament to be here in Canada. We can create our own parliament system. Looking at the Americans, after they broke out from England by mean of bloody war, American doesn't need to have king or queen of England to be head of American state. American have their own house and senator systems which is not the English style parliament. In addition, they have the birthdays of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln as their holidays and not the birthday of Queen Victoria.

I hope you see and understand my point.
Well, I'm sure this all made sense to you when you typed it.

Me, I'm not sure I'm following you.
 

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Let's just declare year zero and start from scratch. Oh, wait didn't they try that in Cambodia? There's probably less than 100 people in the whole GTA who give a shit who this Dundas character was and even fewer who actually knew what he did or didn't do. And this is what our "leaders" are debating in the midst of a pandemic, economic wasteland, shitty roads and unaffordable housing-to name just a couple of pressing issues. Truly we have crossed into idiocracy.
 
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explorerzip

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Well, I'm sure this all made sense to you when you typed it.

Me, I'm not sure I'm following you.
He was clumsily trying to reply to me when I suggested that if people are truly offended by Dundas, Ryerson, etc. then we should be equally if not more offended by the monarchy. I was being sarcastic, however, because completely purging the monarchy from Canada is a pointless exercise and it would never end. Even if we could do that, it still would not change the experience of First Nations one bit. So we'd spend a lot of time, energy and money for no benefit.
 
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