Toronto Maple Leafs - 2016/17 Season

Samranchoi

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Yeah, I think the young Leafs still have lots of upside. The question is where they will plateau? For example, I think Rielly (not Reilly) and Gardner have plateaued and don't have further upside.
I think both Rielly (23) and Gardner (26) still have the potential to get better (you can also throw Zaitsev into the conversation and hopefully they can sign him long term as has been speculated) especially on a Leaf team that will be much better over the next few years. Right now they are not in the elite when it comes to defenceman in the NHL and may never be but they are certainly a good #2 and/or #3 (at worst #4 but they are also not being paid as elite defenseman-$5 million for Rielly for another 5 years and $4 million for Gardiner for two more years and Zaitsev's reported $4.5 million for 7 years) on most of the teams in the league. From all accounts, Rielly is also considered one of the leaders in the Leafs dressing room. His character is undeniable and he is only 23 years old!

Brett Burns is considered one of the top 3 defenseman in the league and he is 32 years old. Not saying Rielly is as good or better than Burns right now (I don't watch Burns that much to know much about him) but I would never make a one for one trade for Burns with Rielly going the other way. Rielly is only 23 years old and is still learning on a young Leafs team both upfront and on defense. When the front end gets better with experience, the back end will only get better, especially if they are able to get a true #1 or #2 defenseman.

It takes longer for defenseman to reach their potential in the NHL and even though Rielly has been in the league for awhile now, he started off at a young age and on bad Leaf teams (remember the Phaneuf years!!!).

Imagine if Kadri was traded off and with the year he had in 2016/2017 on another team! All it took was maturity (on and off the ice) on Kadri's part and the team putting him in a role that was best suited to him and the game he plays. Most importantly, he has the trust of his coach and upper management as evidenced by his team friendly long term contract.

I really like the future of the Leafs and with one or two years more experience for their core players and the addition of one or two more defenseman (a true number one or at least a strong number two and three), they will become perennial Stanley Cup contenders.

2016/2017 is just the beginning for this Leaf team and management to know where they truly are compared to the elite teams in the league. Making the playoffs was a bonus and will only serve to give the young Leaf players the experience needed to be successful in future years. Just as important, the "core" young players are gaining this experience together and this can only be seen as advantageous in growing stronger as a "team".
 

shack

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Another game going into overtime.

Leafs are playing them tough and Freddie has been great in net.
 

glamphotographer

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Leafs continue to impress. I mean aren't they suppose to be gone in 4 games? I have them finished in 5 but they may just push it to 6 games.
 

Insidious Von

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The Leafs are too talented to be swept, Reilly and Gardiner are playing the best hockey of their young careers. The problem now is, with Polak out, who's going to mark Ovechkin? The Calgary Flames could be swept, their fans carried a cardboard face of Brian Birke, as one of their stars, into the game. I consider that a big curse.

Zaitsev needs to pass the concussion protocol, it may not happen soon.

Btw, 16 Tonnes needs to drop on the Chevy pitchman, what a smug asshole! Never in a million years would I buy anything Chevy.
 

catherinetog

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If the Leafs keep on playing the way they played last night, I would keep my fingers still crossed. The Leafs need extremely focus on the puck... There is only one puck or on ball in NBA.

Go Leafs Go!
 

dirkd101

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Boyle to Kapenen for winning goal in dbl OT!
Most successful teams have a 4th line that can play and chip in with the offence. The young Leafs played well last night and they put doubt in the Caps. Ovie has to be one of the worst captains on any team. He looked as if they lost the series last night, while a guy like Williams, who is a great player and who really shows up in the playoffs, says all the right things and doesn't show frustration when interviewed.
 

ultistar

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Don't see how the Leafs can beat the Caps without 2 of their top 4 defensemen, Zaitsev and now Polak (gruesome leg injury). The young Leafs have surprised all season so this is all gravy. Frankly, it's great to see them competing against the top team after finishing dead last in 2016 and being over-matched most nights.
 

kyleb899

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Most successful teams have a 4th line that can play and chip in with the offence. The young Leafs played well last night and they put doubt in the Caps. Ovie has to be one of the worst captains on any team. He looked as if they lost the series last night, while a guy like Williams, who is a great player and who really shows up in the playoffs, says all the right things and doesn't show frustration when interviewed.
How Alexander Ovechkin is one of the worst captains on any team? He is a good captain, he is getting little older now but he still good. Washington Capitals had lot chances to win the game, Frederik Andersen and Braden Holtby played a great game. The Leafs last captain was a joke, Dion Phaneuf was one of the worst captains ever
 

superstar_88

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Most successful teams have a 4th line that can play and chip in with the offence. The young Leafs played well last night and they put doubt in the Caps. Ovie has to be one of the worst captains on any team. He looked as if they lost the series last night, while a guy like Williams, who is a great player and who really shows up in the playoffs, says all the right things and doesn't show frustration when interviewed.
Goes to show how good Gardiner and Reilly are and the Coach. The rest of the Leaf defense aside from Zaitsev are castoffs from other teams.
This coach is a genius at teaching defense and deploying a speed game. We're not talking run and gun. Even putting in Kapanen to make the 4th line fast. Speed in Kapenan, JVR, Marner, Nylander, Matthews, even Hyman. Brown, Komarov, and Kadri are moderate fast. Which leaves Bozak for face off prowess and the 2 big men.
 

smuddan

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I never knew it could be so much fun "playing with house money"! Lol.

We can add Kapannen to the core as he seems to have that special ability to score big goals no matter where he plays.The fact that the Leafs managed to play so evenly with the Caps is a clear indication of how good these young Leafs already are. They actually out scored the Caps 5 on 5 but pp and pk were not as good.

Losing Polak is a significant blow and hopefully Zaitsev can make it back the next game and whoever fills in can contribute positively.
 

dirkd101

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Goes to show how good Gardiner and Reilly are and the Coach. The rest of the Leaf defense aside from Zaitsev are castoffs from other teams.
This coach is a genius at teaching defense and deploying a speed game. We're not talking run and gun. Even putting in Kapanen to make the 4th line fast. Speed in Kapenan, JVR, Marner, Nylander, Matthews, even Hyman. Brown, Komarov, and Kadri are moderate fast. Which leaves Bozak for face off prowess and the 2 big men.
Babcock is a great coach. He's bound for the HoF.

I have bashed on Gardiner in the past, but he's not a number one guy. Babcock is getting the best out of him and he might turn into a number one guy eventually. Rielly is the same, he's good, but not there just yet. Losing Polack is a big blow right now, again, not a number one guy, but a very useful and valuable guy on the back end who plays the style that the coach wants and needs.
Kapanen is a great player and he's doing just about what I thought he would. He'll move up the lineup in the future and will be a big part of this team going forward.
As for Bozak, I'm happy to admit that he's turned out better than I ever thought he would be. Getting away from Kessel and being under the Babcock's tutelage, he's turned into a good and dependable two way player.
 
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There is some kind of a metal box at the back of the net (maybe a camera?). Anyway, Nylander hit that thing dead on and the puck came back out as quickly as it went in. 3-3 going into the 3rd period.
 
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