Toronto Maple Leafs 2011/12
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Well ... I would prefer Canadian born players, but if it gets the Leafs to the promised land I can look the other way during national team tournaments.
Besides it was just an observation that came to mind when I heard Kipper talking about Ryan, furthermore I would love to see Getzlaf come this way instead. Not asking too much am I ? :biggrin1:
What would it take to bring Bobby Ryan to Toronto?
Would you make this trade?
Luke Scheen straight up for Bobby Ryan?
Two first round draft picks for Bobby Ryan?
The whole Grabroksi line with Kulemin and Maccarthur for Bobby Ryan and another player or darft choices?
It's intriguing as the Leafs can make a decent offer. Other teams who need scoring, might not have much to offer as the struggling Ducks would want some players in return and not draft choices.
Would you make this trade?
Luke Scheen straight up for Bobby Ryan?
Two first round draft picks for Bobby Ryan?
The whole Grabroksi line with Kulemin and Maccarthur for Bobby Ryan and another player or darft choices?
It's intriguing as the Leafs can make a decent offer. Other teams who need scoring, might not have much to offer as the struggling Ducks would want some players in return and not draft choices.
One thing I am almost shocked about this Leaf team, is their third line, the rookies. They look like they belong. No shit man.
Watching them play, when did the Leafs had a third line that played that well?
They couldn't send defense-man Gardiner back to the minors. How can they send Crabb, Fratten or Colbourne back to the minors?
Remember these guys? Camerilli, and Armstrong? Yeah, they play for the Leafs too.
Send the kids back down, or let them stay and start making trades.
Watching them play, when did the Leafs had a third line that played that well?
They couldn't send defense-man Gardiner back to the minors. How can they send Crabb, Fratten or Colbourne back to the minors?
Remember these guys? Camerilli, and Armstrong? Yeah, they play for the Leafs too.
Send the kids back down, or let them stay and start making trades.
Yeah, you're right, my mistake.
Then again, he so out of the picture, easy to forget.
All three players on the current kid has played better than him, and he did not play badly.
I do not think the Ducks would give up Ryan for Schenn straight up.
Two firsts for Ryan ? I doubt the Ducks would do that either.
I think Anaheim would want an NHL player, a prospect and/or a first pick.
Game day. Toronto, Ontario.
Let me put these two games in perspective.
They are two games of six vs Boston in a season of 82 games. The Leafs have played 24, with four remaining against the Bruins which takes us to 28. That leaves 54 games in which the Leafs have to win about 30, add to that the single points for OT losses and that gives the Leafs mid-90's in points. should be good enough for the playoffs. So even though I want the Leafs to win, and yes I get the symbolic test in these two games, they are only two games.
Leaf Nation and non-Leaf fans alike must keep this in mind come tomorrow and Sunday mornings.
The Bruins are doing well. They are a point back of the Leaf for first in the division and second over all in the East. They have two games in hand on the Leafs.
Gustavsson will start for the Leafs with Scrivens as back up for at least one more game.
Kessel has been quiet on the goal front for the past couple of weeks. A breakout would be nice tonight.
Leafs should play dump and chase, use their speed on Chara, McQuaid, Ference and the rest of the Bruin D and cash in their chances.
Let me put these two games in perspective.
They are two games of six vs Boston in a season of 82 games. The Leafs have played 24, with four remaining against the Bruins which takes us to 28. That leaves 54 games in which the Leafs have to win about 30, add to that the single points for OT losses and that gives the Leafs mid-90's in points. should be good enough for the playoffs. So even though I want the Leafs to win, and yes I get the symbolic test in these two games, they are only two games.
Leaf Nation and non-Leaf fans alike must keep this in mind come tomorrow and Sunday mornings.
The Bruins are doing well. They are a point back of the Leaf for first in the division and second over all in the East. They have two games in hand on the Leafs.
Gustavsson will start for the Leafs with Scrivens as back up for at least one more game.
Kessel has been quiet on the goal front for the past couple of weeks. A breakout would be nice tonight.
Leafs should play dump and chase, use their speed on Chara, McQuaid, Ference and the rest of the Bruin D and cash in their chances.
I agree that it is only two games, but it is a good test as to where the Leafs stand as a team within the league. Some people have said they are only near the top of the standings because they have only played "weak" teams. I don't quite agree with that, but at least 1 win out of the two will speak volumes and would also give the Leafs confidence.
As for all these talks about trades...I am all for improving the team - but I am hesitant about going crazy as the team seem to have good chemistry and is playing decently. Unless something really makes sense right now, I would rather wait a bit and see what happens before disturbing the locker room.
As for all these talks about trades...I am all for improving the team - but I am hesitant about going crazy as the team seem to have good chemistry and is playing decently. Unless something really makes sense right now, I would rather wait a bit and see what happens before disturbing the locker room.
Until Ryan is traded or Anaheim makes a public statement that he is not on the trade block this rumour will not go away and the Leafs will be in the forefront in the media.
So here goes ...
A defenceman, forward and/or a draft pick. Barring a total collapse the Leaf first pick should not be, nor close to, a lottery pick.
These are the names coming up most often in trade talks.
Who has more upside, Schenn or Franson ? Would prefer to hold onto Schenn, being a draft pick and all. It would be nice to have him around his whole career, but if it comes down to Schenn or no Ryan ... have fun in California Luke.
Grabovski; What we have seen from him all there is or is there more ?
Kulemin; Would love to hold on to him, but guy like Ryan do not come along often.
Kadri; Like him, but 'good bye' in a heart beat.
So here goes ...
A defenceman, forward and/or a draft pick. Barring a total collapse the Leaf first pick should not be, nor close to, a lottery pick.
These are the names coming up most often in trade talks.
Who has more upside, Schenn or Franson ? Would prefer to hold onto Schenn, being a draft pick and all. It would be nice to have him around his whole career, but if it comes down to Schenn or no Ryan ... have fun in California Luke.
Grabovski; What we have seen from him all there is or is there more ?
Kulemin; Would love to hold on to him, but guy like Ryan do not come along often.
Kadri; Like him, but 'good bye' in a heart beat.
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Better showing, but a loss is a loss. Leafs played with the Bruins for two periods.
Gustavsson was OK, cannot lay the blame on his shoulders. Not that it is a secret, but these games vs Boston show that the Leafs do need something more.
Another hot scorer would be nice. While the Bruins are watching Kessel the other guy is scoring.
Gustavsson was OK, cannot lay the blame on his shoulders. Not that it is a secret, but these games vs Boston show that the Leafs do need something more.
Another hot scorer would be nice. While the Bruins are watching Kessel the other guy is scoring.
It should be what we expected. Most people didn't even think the Leafs would be contending for the playoffs (which they are) let alone have enough to be a cup winner (which the Bruins are).
As you said, it was still nice to see then be competitive against the hottest team in the league. They were in there 'til the 5-3 goal.
nazim kadri was named the first star of the month for November for 17 points in 14 games (6-11) should he be promoted or traded or kept on th marlies for longer? not only that but Joe Colborne was named first star in the ahl in october he was tearing it up with joey crabb
I was reading that forum on the Leafs on the official Toronto Maple Leafs website, and that place was basically a love in for the Leafs. Every player was good. Everyone deserves a roster spot. All positive. NO negatives, maybe just a little. What that forum needs is some of the bitterness and negativity of some of the real life losers of TERB! Getting off topic, but I would like to comment on the game yesterday.
I didn't like it when the Leafs loss! Fucking shit. After calming down, and hearing the comments from a potential TERBite, coach Ron Wilson (he certainly has the attitude), he claimed his team played well. You know what. He was right.
The Leafs did play well. I think they out chanced the Bruins. They did not get pushed around by them either. Leafs forwards were able to beat the Bruins slow defensemen wide. Leafs skated hard and played their game. Why did they lose?
Gustavason could have made a couple of more big saves. Seems to me those Bruins goals, they shove it front of the net and in bounces in. Poke checking is a lost art. But Gustavson is the backup goalie.
Back checking is not optional in the NHL. Bozak lead the league in the worst plus minus last year right?
Not dressing Dupis was a mistake. The game was kind of tame, or maybe the Leafs are tough enough. Rosehill, all I remember him doing is fanning on the puck and not getting it out of the zone.
Schenn giving the puck away unpressured right to Lucik, then not making a strong enough play on the the very same Lucik in front of the net. That's typical Scheen. Two brain cramps on one play.
Anyways, everyone makes mistakes, but last game, all mistakes wound up in the back of the Leafs net.
Weren't you guys impressed by the thrid line? In fact, the 1st, 2nd, 3rd line all got a goal last night. The third line, as constructed now, they can play. To me, that is very surprising because they are raw rookies. Colbourne staking is not that bad. He's not that slow. Slow is like Jason Allison or Darcy Tucker. Dave Andurchuych slow.
Who would you want on the team at center. Bozak or Colbourne? To me, it obvious who belongs and who should be traded!
I didn't like it when the Leafs loss! Fucking shit. After calming down, and hearing the comments from a potential TERBite, coach Ron Wilson (he certainly has the attitude), he claimed his team played well. You know what. He was right.
The Leafs did play well. I think they out chanced the Bruins. They did not get pushed around by them either. Leafs forwards were able to beat the Bruins slow defensemen wide. Leafs skated hard and played their game. Why did they lose?
Gustavason could have made a couple of more big saves. Seems to me those Bruins goals, they shove it front of the net and in bounces in. Poke checking is a lost art. But Gustavson is the backup goalie.
Back checking is not optional in the NHL. Bozak lead the league in the worst plus minus last year right?
Not dressing Dupis was a mistake. The game was kind of tame, or maybe the Leafs are tough enough. Rosehill, all I remember him doing is fanning on the puck and not getting it out of the zone.
Schenn giving the puck away unpressured right to Lucik, then not making a strong enough play on the the very same Lucik in front of the net. That's typical Scheen. Two brain cramps on one play.
Anyways, everyone makes mistakes, but last game, all mistakes wound up in the back of the Leafs net.
Weren't you guys impressed by the thrid line? In fact, the 1st, 2nd, 3rd line all got a goal last night. The third line, as constructed now, they can play. To me, that is very surprising because they are raw rookies. Colbourne staking is not that bad. He's not that slow. Slow is like Jason Allison or Darcy Tucker. Dave Andurchuych slow.
Who would you want on the team at center. Bozak or Colbourne? To me, it obvious who belongs and who should be traded!
Game day. Boston, Massachusetts.
Another tough one. The Leafs cannot beat the Bruins. A lot of it is in the heads of the Leafs, and it is not just their size and toughness. Other things factor in, in my opinion. The trade for example, Kessel is trying harder against the Bruins then he does vs any other team in the league.
If I could give Kessel a bit of advice it would be to just let it go. Do not think of Boston as the team that drafted you, but as just another stop on the 82 game schedule.
The game, Wilson should play the shit out of Franson, the guy needs to play without worrying about making a mistake.
Gustavsson starts tonight with Reimer(is back !) backing up.
The Leafs do not have to beat Boston, they just have to mentally survive then not worry about them again until March.
Another tough one. The Leafs cannot beat the Bruins. A lot of it is in the heads of the Leafs, and it is not just their size and toughness. Other things factor in, in my opinion. The trade for example, Kessel is trying harder against the Bruins then he does vs any other team in the league.
If I could give Kessel a bit of advice it would be to just let it go. Do not think of Boston as the team that drafted you, but as just another stop on the 82 game schedule.
The game, Wilson should play the shit out of Franson, the guy needs to play without worrying about making a mistake.
Gustavsson starts tonight with Reimer(is back !) backing up.
The Leafs do not have to beat Boston, they just have to mentally survive then not worry about them again until March.
All the players should be able to play without the worry of being benched for making a mistake.
In my opinion,one of Wilson's biggest problems is he the way he handles players when they screw up. He centers them out, whether he realizes it or not,
and that does not build confidence in young players and this is a young team. Schenn and Gustavsson come to my mind as guys he has thrown under the bus.
I am sure there are others.
Lets hope Leafs play well today. Bruins are good and they are hot so it will be tough.
As it stands now, Reimer will start Saturday (tonight) against the Bruins, in Boston.
