Toronto Garbage Strike Poll......
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The results of this pole seem consistent with the poles that appear on CityTV. I'd love to see the City hold out and those union A-holes get screwed and have to return to work with their tails between their legs.
Thunderballs said:
I would love to see these unionist GONE
and replaced with people who actually care about doing a good job at a decent wage.I never saw it but I was told today that cityTV did a man on the street poll and 81% said: let em rot, we'll deal with the smell....
BUT, will our dickhead mayor listen to what his constituents want? Probably not, he'll cave in and give the unions double what they're asking for....
BUT, will our dickhead mayor listen to what his constituents want? Probably not, he'll cave in and give the unions double what they're asking for....
Thunderballs said:
They won't ever have their tails between there legs because even if they get 10% of what they are asking for, they call it a win and trumpet it to whomever will listen to them.
Bingo!buckwheat1 said:
The weekly savings for not paying salaries and benefits for 30,000 employees is about $20 Million, gross and I think I'm low. Another week or so and Miller will have made up a good chunk of the money the feds declined to give him.
fuji said:
I was under the impression that some of these rules were permanantly set in place but you have a point, if it was part of a negotiated contract then it expires with that contract.
This is the time to break the union's back. Let's hope Miller has the balls to do it.
He was on The Edge yesterday morning and he realizes the public is behind him in not giving in.......He actually said something that indicates he isn't totally stupid: His position is: sick days are for when you are sick...that's all........
Can't the city hire replacement workers? I'd think in these economic times there would be people willing to work.. and how special can the skills be.
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That would be an excellent solution. The problem is that the mayor is an NDPer. Being an American, I don’t know how much you know about the NDP, but they have an official relationship with organized labour (i.e. in the case of the provincial party, unions get 25% of the delegates to the NDP leadership conventions). Technically, there is no “party politics” at the municipal level. However, much of the support (e.g. financial, etc.) that got Miller elected came from unions. Moreover, for an NDPer to hire replacement workers would philosophically be unheard of. It would be like the modern American republican party having an atheist as a presidential candidate.onthebottom said:
Personally, I have a pet theory that it is not surprising that NDP politicians like Miller and Rae have problems with unions. Strikes are costly for unions. Thus, it seems to me that it is only rational to expend that cost when you expect to face less resistance (i.e. you have an NDP politician in charge).
PS. I wonder how long it will take for the city's support in this poll to break the 90% level.
oldjones said:
The city could hire replacement workers tommorow. Someone is correct--the only reason it hasn't happened yet is that Miller is a union puppet. The only thing that's stopped him from giving them everything they want is that he can read polls too, and must be worried.
When the union was illegally blocking access to dump sites instead of berating them and seeking an immediate injunction Miller actually berated the people trying to drop off their trash.
It's pathetic. Hopefully the next mayor we get knows how to look out for taxpayers' interests.
Mrbig1949 said:
Semantics.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and swims like a duck, it's a freakin' duck. He's so NDP he probably bleeds orange.
Agreed, the fact that he did not renew is membership a year or two ago, means nothing. Bush would still be a republican even if he let his membership lapse (assuming they have traditional party memberships in the American system). If Miller had ripped up his membership card, etc. it might be different but he made it clear he was not rejecting NDP philosophy.blackrock13 said:
Personally, I think Miller is in the same type of tough position that Rae was in. By being overly friendly to the preferences of NDP supporters initially he pissed of the general public. Now that he cannot give his traditional supporters everything they want (e.g. the current strike) he is also going to lose many of them. I really think his only hope of winning again is for his opposition to really split the vote. However, I fully admit that in recent years Canadian politics has been very hard to predict so I could very well be wrong. Nonetheless, I will be surprised if he is reelected.
