OMG, I'm not questioning that. I'm just saying the law is now in a paradox where not only is it illegal to buy a legal service, but you can be charged for failing to pay for something you will be charged with if you do buy it anyway. The law is an ass and it should be made legal for every side if you're going to charge someone for theft/fraud.
Toronto area man charged after allegedly failing to pay for sexual services
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It’s not really that much of a paradox.
unenforced laws happened. Have you ever been given a warning for speeding?
I agree the law is stupid, but it was created to protect sex workers (by allowing them to work openly, safely) and at the same time criminalize clients who they see as the bad guys in all this. Stupid, and why can’t 2 adults decide on the terms around them having sex?
but that is what the law is. Legal to sell, illegal To buy.
The discussion was about the drug dealer ripping off the customer.
If you're referring to what I posted I meant the drug purchaser not paying the dealer. That may have been a bad example but I've never heard of someone being charged criminally for not paying for a service rendered. It's my understanding that's civil litigation so the service provider would file a lawsuit for the funds owed.
Drug dealers have their own methods of collecting money owed…
His intent was to pay as expressed to the person providing the service. It's like going to a restaruant, you order the food, you eat it. If you don't pay you stole the the food.The guys seems to be a grade A scumbag and has a history of ripping people off.
However am a bit confused. So he did not pay the sex worker, so it means he technically did not purchase sex. So how can purchasing sex and not purchasing sex both be a crime?
Just legalize the damn thing already.
I was wondering that myself. To think they are probably someone already in a hard spot and then this asshole does this to them. Not cool.
I believe the story to be real though.
With countless threads in all sections about personal hygiene of client and SP , from the mug shot of this scum bag, an hour in a car wash may not have bee sufficient.
Story can be true, but with a crack head or alcoholic.
Since when did "play now, pay later" start ? Unless I am wrong, the donation is up front and then the show starts.
Story can be true, but with a crack head or alcoholic.
Since when did "play now, pay later" start ? Unless I am wrong, the donation is up front and then the show starts.
The drug dealer finds you and pops two bullets between your eyes and anyone else with you. Debt collected.
Suppose he argues that he was not happy with the “service” in graphic detail and thus did not pay ?
How can someone be charged with not paying for an illegal service by LE ? The accused will be incriminating himself under Bill C-36 . Perhaps the accused should sue Durham LE and the sex workers go after the guy in civil court or send him to “ collections”
What a waste of taxpayer money and court resources !!!!
How can someone be charged with not paying for an illegal service by LE ? The accused will be incriminating himself under Bill C-36 . Perhaps the accused should sue Durham LE and the sex workers go after the guy in civil court or send him to “ collections”
What a waste of taxpayer money and court resources !!!!
It is not “purchasing” sexual services. It is “obtaining” sexual services. Too completely different things. He is can be guilty of obtaining and not paying. It is not that hard to figure out.
You don’t send a shoplifter to collections, you send them to jail. Seems like you think he should not be charged at all and should be able to basically get away with not paying escort.
It was not a level playing field for years for us. It is not like we don’t know what it is like to be on the shit end of the stick. And I think you are totally over estimating your numbers. But at least you don’t have to worry about buying raped or murdered so you have that bonus going for you. Bottomline - we all accept the risk. You don’t need to pay for sex. You can use your hand or find free sex. Not being rude. Just being factual.
And our “service” is different. We don’t bill. We get paid right away. Like a restaurant. If you don’t pay for your meal, you get arrested. This is criminal. Not civil. All the way. I don’t see how you can see it any differently.
So you are willing to have us have detailed records, which can be submitted to the government upon request at any time? I think you are on an island alone on that one. LOL
Does this apply to illegal drugs ? Purchasing versus obtaining ?
Just amazing this scum bag started a 4 page thread.
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So should a “bad trick” get a criminal record for not paying a prostitute for an illegal service, a service for which the prostitute has immunity from prosecution? We have not heard why the accused refused to pay which could be for several interesting reasons.
What I would like to see is the removal of the arcane and stupid laws and selective enforcement in this country when it comes to prostitution to protect the rights and safety of the sex worker and patron alike.
I don’t know. I don’t buy drugs where I would have to worry about this.
you don’t need to hear why he didn’t pay. That is for the judge. I’m just point out that whether it was legal or not, he would still be charged with theft.
but it seems some of you don’t care that he did this to multiple woman and want his poor record clean from prosecution.
