Toronto area man charged after allegedly failing to pay for sexual services

[mandrill]

The guys seems to be a grade A scumbag and has a history of ripping people off.

However am a bit confused. So he did not pay the sex worker, so it means he technically did not purchase sex. So how can purchasing sex and not purchasing sex both be a crime?

Just legalize the damn thing already.

He "obtained sexual services" for consideration. The "consideration" was his promise to pay after he fucked her. It works. Contracts 101.

I buy this Ford for no money down and I will pay the dealership $500 per month starting next month. It's a contract.

 

[curr3n_c1000]

I agree with everything said about this guy. But it makes me wonder about the SPs not asking for their money before getting started, since that's usually the norm especially for first time encounters.

LTO_3

Some of these women got the game backwards.

Always Cash before Ass.

 

[curr3n_c1000]

Not condoning what this guy did, but look how bizarre the law has become. On top of the oxymoron of sex being illegal to buy but legal to sell, now it's a crime to not pay for an illegal activity? Imagine the mob calling the cops because someone didn't pay the agreed upon protection money. Just make it legal.

His full charges: Janarthanan SATHIANATHAN, age 32, of Ajax is charged with Theft Under $5000 x3 and Obtaining Sexual Services for Consideration x3.

Investigators would further like to remind the community of the 2013 Supreme Court decision that ruled Canada’s laws in relation to prostitution were considered unconstitutional. The laws changed to provide a layer of safety for those involved in the sex trade however, the purchase of these services continues to be illegal. The sex trade is still considered a high-risk lifestyle and police would like to remind those involved of the resources available.

So im assuming it's not illegal to charge him because of some built in loophole to protect SW.

It happened to an unnamed America athlete over a decade ago. He thought he could get away without paying but he found out the laws in Canada will enforce payment.

Male Facing Charges after Obtaining Sexual Services and Refusing to Pay - Durham Regional Police Service

The official website of the Durham Regional Police Service.

www.drps.ca

 

[Jenesis]

Not condoning what this guy did, but look how bizarre the law has become. On top of the oxymoron of sex being illegal to buy but legal to sell, now it's a crime to not pay for an illegal activity? Imagine the mob calling the cops because someone didn't pay the agreed upon protection money. Just make it legal.

Even if they made sex work legal, what he did By not paying is still a crime. Your mob analogy is apples to oranges.

What WE are doing is legal and we have every right to protect ourselves.

 

[Jenesis]

The guys seems to be a grade A scumbag and has a history of ripping people off.

However am a bit confused. So he did not pay the sex worker, so it means he technically did not purchase sex. So how can purchasing sex and not purchasing sex both be a crime?

Just legalize the damn thing already.

The charge is not “purchasing”. It is “obtaining”. Which he did. Completely makes sense.

Also for others. Theft is right as well. We are legally allowed to sell our services. Since you guys want to use drugs. It is legal for me to have oxy but if someone takes my oxy - it is illegal for them. They stole it. This is the same thing. We can offer the service for a price , and he stole that when he didn’t pay the price.

If the facts are correct then he is equally guilty of both and the charges seem right.

If he was charged with sexual assault charges for non-payment - I don’t think that would fly.

 

[Fun For All]

Believe it or not some people have actually called 911 to report being ripped off in a drug deal. Every year or so on the news they report a summary of strange calls the 911 service receives(ie. my pizza is late).

If you give someone money, for anything including buying drugs, and he rips you off, that is robbery.

 

[jcpro]

If you give someone money, for anything including buying drugs, and he rips you off, that is robbery.

Except, the drug dealer will not run to the cops to complain because selling drugs is illegal while selling sex ain't.

 

[carvesg]

Not condoning what this guy did, but look how bizarre the law has become. On top of the oxymoron of sex being illegal to buy but legal to sell, now it's a crime to not pay for an illegal activity? Imagine the mob calling the cops because someone didn't pay the agreed upon protection money. Just make it legal.

It's legal for her to sell her time . Theft count and they will be waiting for him once passed the grinder to charge him for buying a sex encounter . Not only is he a low life but stupid on top of it .

 

[Mr Deeds]

Are Durham cops also charging people who refused to pay a dealer for drugs?

What a ridiculous statement, in what way are these two things even remotely alike

 

[krealtarron]

That's actually a good point. Plus, it's not theft if you promise to pay and then don't pay. It's fraud.

A google search reveals he is a contractor and has ripped people off of 1000s. I think those may do him in even if this one doesn't.

 

[Greytop19]

Man, I feel sorry for the sps who have to service such a filthy looking man. Probably smelled bad too.

SPs complain about the well groomed man also. Its a no win situation

 

[Soccersweeper]

Even if they made sex work legal, what he did By not paying is still a crime. Your mob analogy is apples to oranges.

What WE are doing is legal and we have every right to protect ourselves.

I'm all for that. I'm saying it should be fully legal for both sides. As it is, you now have a bizarre situation of not paying for an illegal service also being illegal. Next they'll go after him for not paying GST on it. Mob analogy works perfectly

 

[Jenesis]

I'm all for that. I'm saying it should be fully legal for both sides. As it is, you now have a bizarre situation of not paying for an illegal service also being illegal. Next they'll go after him for not paying GST on it. Mob analogy works perfectly

So your concern is for the fact that he has been charged with three counts of obtaining sexual services. Nothing to do with ripping off multiple women.

Legal just makes the government our pimps. Where we will have to keep client detailed records for tax purposes (as opposed to the non client details we can use now) and yes - charge HST. What you want us decriminalization.

 

[massman]

I'm all for that. I'm saying it should be fully legal for both sides. As it is, you now have a bizarre situation of not paying for an illegal service also being illegal. Next they'll go after him for not paying GST on it. Mob analogy works perfectly

(Selling) the service is legal. Buying is not.

 

[Jenesis]

(Selling) the service is legal. Buying is not.

I don’t think he cares or is talking about the theft charges. He is concerned about this guy having 3 other charges of obtaining sexual services.

 

[whynot888]

I assume he had no intentions on paying, they should upgrade the charges to either sexual assault or even rape

 

[carvesg]

I assume he had no intentions on paying, they should upgrade the charges to either sexual assault or even rape

Exactly !!! That's the way to see it

 

[Soccersweeper]

Even if they made sex work legal, what he did By not paying is still a crime. Your mob analogy is apples to oranges.

What WE are doing is legal and we have every right to protect ourselves.

I'm not sure why you think I think otherwise. I'm advocating for full decriminalization for both sides. We also have a right to protect ourselves and not go to jail for a consensual activity. If it's fully legal, then the law makes more sense for charging him with theft/fraud.

 

[Soccersweeper]

(Selling) the service is legal. Buying is not.

Name me another product or service where this is true. How can it be legal to sell but not to buy something? That's basically entrapment. If you can sell it, I can buy it. Otherwise there is no legal market

 

[curr3n_c1000]

Name me another product or service where this is true. How can it be legal to sell but not to buy something? That's basically entrapment. If you can sell it, I can buy it. Otherwise there is no legal market

He’s charged with theft.

Technically he did steal a legally sellable product/service.