The problem is because the virus is so new, the quality of the test kits currently available is not of good quality (yet).
Think of it as Windows 95 with all its bugs, versus Windows 8 right now
Time for a partial lockdown.
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Think of it as Windows 95 with all its bugs, versus Windows 8 right now
Do you know that this "someone" is knowledgeable in what he speaks of?
A few people I know in the medical field are bracing for a rough ride over the next few months and expecting partial lockdowns to be implemented before the end of the year.
They have had 6 months. They should have better testing result numbers then what they do. I get it is new and I get it is fine tuning the test to find the right balance detection but the whole world is working on this. With that in mind, I just feel they should be further along and if not, the governments should be reporting the false a better and using the true representation of the numbers including the false testing numbers in their assessments. I have no faith now that is what is being done.
Yes he is. He never said anything about lockdowns not happening and didn’t even really shed an opinion. He just helped me look at the numbers as actual numbers and understand them better. Not Just media reported info.
He is a client but like me, he is still staying away from the hobby. To be safe. So he is not a conspiracy theory nut or anything. He is not all doomsday either. He is very analytical and just over all aware.
Also, along with false-negative you do also have false positive. I would assume they even up the final tally albeit both scenarios are not acceptable if it's happening often.
I'd be interested in hearing @Ben19 thoughts on this. Ben seemed knowledgeable with the topic in the early pandemic days.
Ya, I’m not. Having proven to me to be a liar and an agenda based poster, I don’t trust a word he types. Also why he is on ignore so here is hoping he answers you, I just am thankful I don’t have to read it.
As much as I find some posters ridiculous I actually do not have anyone on ignore nor report posts. I sit back and enjoy the lunacy. I find it entertaining. LMAO
The testing in Canada is pretty damn accurate it's over 99% accurate, and that's a pretty damn good achievement in 6 months. Fine tuning that 0.01% will probably never happen.
The false positives numbers are so small relative to the tests and confirmed positive cases now and they do adjust the numbers, as well they PHAC or local health authorities do report on them specially when it's a significant number as we have previously seen.
I don't get how a 0.01% possibilty of false positives or false negatives would make you have no faith in the tests, what is being done or how they are reporting it.
When you add the false positives with the false negatives and the percentage of positives coming back based on the ratio of actual test being done, it would seem to me there is a need for improvement.
Adding human error like the 32 false reported case in Durham, there is something really wrong. Especially when these are the numbers we rely on.
Sorry but In my opinion; it can and needs to be better.
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You sure??
Main coronavirus test produces ‘false negatives’ at least 20% of the time, study shows - National | Globalnews.ca
The main type of test for the novel coronavirus around the world has a “false-negative” rate of at least 20 per cent, researchers from Johns Hopkins University found.
globalnews.ca
Human error of some 30 something cases on one day where the province is submitting 30,000 cases daily on a regular basis and these human errors or false tests happening very little is of no significance.
Again the rate of false tests positive or negative is just about 0.01%
And more than likely that 0.01% will never be able to be fixed due to so many different factors.
I am a 100% sure, we are talking about tests in Canada currently and not worldwide tests some 4 months ago.You sure??
Main coronavirus test produces ‘false negatives’ at least 20% of the time, study shows - National | Globalnews.ca
The main type of test for the novel coronavirus around the world has a “false-negative” rate of at least 20 per cent, researchers from Johns Hopkins University found.
Apparently test ratio right now is like 1% positive to the amount tested. Like 30K.
Apparently we have a .8% false positive rate.
I’m no mathematician but those numbers don’t look good in my opinion. That to me says more needs to be done.
Again, that is not even talking about human error or false negatives.
If we are relying on these numbers for decisions such as lockdowns, we need to make sure our testing system is the best it can possibly be and with those numbers, I see room for improvement.
You are of course free to disagree. Doesn’t mean anything. Just means we disagree. Which is par for the course with us. LOL
The rate of false positive or negative tests is 0.01% and more than likely that number will never be able to eliminated fully due to it being such a small number and so many other factors that I do not have the time nor patience to try to make people understand.
Now you can believe the percentage to be something completely different and that's just your personal opinion but not based on the current scientific data.
As for our testing system we have if not the best one of the best testing probably worldwide behind only a few very advanced countries.
Also, just because you tested negative doesn't mean you are.
The virus could still be in its incubation period and therefore be undetectable
I’ll re-look Into that % number but that is not what was shown to me. It was .8% that was shown to me. I will also see if I can get the link that he showed me. I know it was not a news source. He deleted the notifications for those when this hit as he only wanted Government data, not media influences.
I’ll get back to you if I can. If not, we will just chop it up to agreeing to disagree. Thankfully you are a reasonable poster who is capable of that, unlike some others here.
"I was infected with coronavirus in March, six months on I’m still unwell
Charlie Russell, 27, is one of an estimated 600,000 people with post-Covid illness, a condition that may give an insight into ME"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...m-still-unwell
More on the long term negative effects of C-19 infection here:
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/c-19...vivors.723087/
As for the shutdowns, what is obviously clear is they have had many benefits:
1) serious vehicular accidents & deaths are way way down
2) flu deaths & serious complications have decreased tremendously
3) C-19 ill health & deaths are far less due to the lockdowns
4) likewise probably other communicable diseases (e.g. tuberculosis, HIV) have been greatly reduced by the extreme safety measures in place
5) street crimes have probably been highly reduced.
6) families have been able to spend more time together enjoying each others company while free from the slavery of that 4 letter word "work" that the vast majority hate. Giving more time for quality of life activities like sex & various entertainments.
7) abortions (child murder) are probably down.
http://www.therxforum.com/showthread...1#post13211637
Many kids & young people's lives have already been saved due to the worldwide lockdowns.
Because motor vehicle accident deaths are the #1 leading worldwide cause of death in such.
"Motor vehicle crashes are the leading cause of death for U.S. teens."
https://www.google.com/search?q=lead...hrome&ie=UTF-8
"Each year, 1.35 million people are killed on roadways around the world.4
"...Road traffic injuries are estimated to be the eighth leading cause of death globally for all age groups and the leading cause of death for children and young people 5–29 years of age. More people now die in road traffic crashes than from HIV/AIDS.4"
https://www.cdc.gov/injury/features/...nd%20cyclists.
Yet many (most?) of them are "selfish morons". Fact.
"Young, dumb & full of cum". Fact.
The taxes being paid by retired "old people" are keeping many of these "out of work" younguns - paid - to enjoy an all expenses paid higher quality of life retirement like holiday from that 4 letter word "work" that everyone hates. When the economy soon recovers their holiday will be over. How many of these "old people" ever got such a months long holiday.
As for the shutdowns, what is obviously clear is they have had many benefits:
1) serious vehicular accidents & deaths are way way down
2) flu deaths & serious complications have decreased tremendously
3) C-19 ill health & deaths are far less due to the lockdowns
4) likewise probably other communicable diseases (e.g. tuberculosis, HIV) have been greatly reduced by the extreme safety measures in place
5) street crimes have probably been highly reduced.
6) families have been able to spend more time together enjoying each others company while free from the slavery of that 4 letter word "work" that the vast majority hate. Giving more time for quality of life activities like sex & various entertainments.
7) abortions (child murder) are probably down.
http://www.therxforum.com/showthread...1#post13211637
Yup. Sweden's economy is doing no better than their Nordic shutdown neighbours.
Without shutdowns millions more people get ill, hospitalized, suffer long term ill health & death leading to employees being absent from work, businesses shutdown anyway, & in many cases for much longer, etc.
Entitled selfish nonsense. You are owed nothing. It's the past generations that have brought the quality of life for the "young, dumb & full of cum" to where it is today, the highest it's ever been in the history of mankind. Imagine if you were born in 1920 or 1900 or 1800 or Europe in the dark or middle ages. Many of the dead gave their lives in WWII to gift you with what you have today.
