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I speak good enough English. Perhaps you should learn to read and comprehend. Or would you like the ABC for dummies version? That, Black immigrants do better than Blacks born in the USA, was never in dispute, and is a moot point since my point is that they STILL suffer the same pitfalls at the hands of police.

Thanks for helping develop my point.

learn to read and comprehend? why don't you answer my question why are black immigrants having no problems with the police?
 

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However, you telling me that I should just accept racial abuse because some other guy commits a crime.
Yeah you do have to accept it. Because you aren't going to change anything. There's 1,000s of cops and troublemakers out there, and if anything the recent issues will make things worst. So unless you think you're Superman and can solve everything in 5 seconds, you aren't changing anything.

Guess what? With those Black guys getting killed, the cops look bad. But now some Black guys recently have killed cops, so now it goes back the other way. And because the cops getting killed are the most recent events, cop sympathy linger around longer..... unless some cops going forward go nuts and do revenge killings on blacks, then that would be the most recent news. The problem continues.

So best thing to do is not contribute to the mayhem. Let things cool off and don't cause trouble.

That tells me all I need to know about you. You know what profiling is, right? Funny how that never works the other way around in other facets of life
All you need to know about me is I have a pretty good life and family and have never got into trouble with the cops aside from some crappy speeding and parking tickets.

Don't cause trouble, and cops don't come barging down the road trying to resolve an issue.

People like you are what is wrong with society.
Actually, if more people in the world were like myself and my family tree, things would be great. We all have good educations, jobs, homes, and cash. Don't get me wrong, we're not billionaires, but all are in that upper/middle class. Comfortable life, but not Rosedale kinds of status. And none of us commit crime, or have done drugs or have had confrontations with the law. And this comes from an immigrant family that started 50 years ago who came with nothing and couldn't even speak English.

Put in a good effort and cops leave you alone.
 

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I already answered that question by telling you that THEY DO!!!! Perhaps you change your moniker from canada-man to blind-man.
the do not

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...n-immigrants-ferguson-black-identity-politics

Article from a woman wasking black immigrants to help black americans

Too many black immigrants believe ourselves removed from the threat of police violence, saved somehow by the allure of our accents or the false safety of our refusal to openly question American racism.

My father, a dark-skinned man with hair so tightly curled my aunt once joked he didn’t need an umbrella in the rain, immigrated from Ethiopia in the early 1980s to escape political turmoil, and acquired US citizenship in time to vote in the 2000 election. He does not see the police as an enemy; he often waves to them. He does not see my fear of paramilitary civic servants as legitimate.
 

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http://www.theglobalist.com/african-americans-african-immigrants-differ/

When they come to the United States, it has been my experience that Africans can easily identify with white Americans because they understand each other. Before migrating to the United States, the majority of Africans have had little to no direct negative experiences with whites. They simply do not hate them.
 

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Wow. I read the suspect was killed by an explosive, but didn't know it was delivered by a robot. I thought they tossed a grenade or something.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/08/technology/dallas-robot-death/index.html

But Thursday night in Dallas, the situation played out with a twist. Micah Johnson, believed to have fatally shot five police officers, was killed by an explosive device that a robot delivered.

Two executives at robotic companies told CNN this is the first time a police robot has been involved in a civilian's death.

"We saw no other option but to use our bomb robot and place a device on its extension for it to detonate where the suspect was," Dallas police chief David Brown said at a news conference Friday morning. "Other options would have exposed our officers to grave danger."
 

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the do not

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...n-immigrants-ferguson-black-identity-politics

Article from a woman wasking black immigrants to help black americans

Too many black immigrants believe ourselves removed from the threat of police violence, saved somehow by the allure of our accents or the false safety of our refusal to openly question American racism.

My father, a dark-skinned man with hair so tightly curled my aunt once joked he didn’t need an umbrella in the rain, immigrated from Ethiopia in the early 1980s to escape political turmoil, and acquired US citizenship in time to vote in the 2000 election. He does not see the police as an enemy; he often waves to them. He does not see my fear of paramilitary civic servants as legitimate.
They do, one was made into a millionaire (Haitian) thanks to the abuse, and another took 41 shots. Many others have been harassed and abused.

Yet you sit there and say they do not!

Hilarious.
 

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I think people waive their rights to due process when they shoot first and don't surrender.
And how do you know he shot first? How many black people have been shot by cops with their hands in the air or in full surrender mode? You really think they were gonna accept this guys surrender? No they intended to kill him, it was premeditated murder this time, not the usual second degree murder.
 

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Not unless you give them a chance to surrender. If that is your standard and some cop thinks you are an active threat its ok to kill you? I think that is how we got here. By people shitting their pants and pulling the trigger because of cowardice.
He had lots of opportunities to surrender.

But yes, if some cop thinks, for good reasons, that you are about kill or seriously harm others, you can and should be killed.

Those good reasons will certainly be examined and where there weren't good reasons then there will be charges against the cop.

In this case it seems there were very good reasons.
 

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This:

'Our national conversation on race and crime is based on a fiction. It is the fiction that the organs of internal security, especially the judiciary and the police, can be adjusted, modernized or professionalized to make possible a post-racial America. We discuss issues of race while ignoring the economic, bureaucratic and political systems of exploitation—all of it legal and built into the ruling apparatus—that are the true engines of racism and white supremacy. No discussion of race is possible without a discussion of capitalism and class. And until that discussion takes place, despite all the proposed reforms to the criminal justice system, the state will continue to murder and imprison poor people of color with impunity.'
 

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He had lots of opportunities to surrender.

But yes, if some cop thinks, for good reasons, that you are about kill or seriously harm others, you can and should be killed.

Those good reasons will certainly be examined and where there weren't good reasons then there will be charges against the cop.

In this case it seems there were very good reasons.
How do you met the test of immediate threat when a guy is cornered and you have time to rig a robot to go kill him? that is nonsense. The Robot could have carried tear gas and stun grenades. This was premeditated murder by the cops, yet again.
 

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He had lots of opportunities to surrender.

But yes, if some cop thinks, for good reasons, that you are about kill or seriously harm others, you can and should be killed.

Those good reasons will certainly be examined and where there weren't good reasons then there will be charges against the cop.

In this case it seems there were very good reasons.
You are wasting your time debating with nottyboi. He is either simply trolling to wind people up or a ridiculous ideologue who has never faced real danger. Either way, you may as well piss against the wind and expect to stay dry.
 

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There must be something in the water. 120 German police officers injured, fortunately none killed, in a riot in Berlin. What the hell do Berliners have to riot about? Isn't sex legal in Germany?
 

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When they come to the United States, it has been my experience that Africans can easily identify with white Americans because they understand each other. Before migrating to the United States, the majority of Africans have had little to no direct negative experiences with whites. They simply do not hate them.
That is weird, my grandmother actually recently told me something similar, what a trip. As a nurse, she said she found women who came to Canada from Africa a lot easier to work with and were actually very hardworking as opposed to those who were born in Canada, she said their mentality was incredibly different and were very pleasant.
 

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And how do you know he shot first? How many black people have been shot by cops with their hands in the air or in full surrender mode? You really think they were gonna accept this guys surrender? No they intended to kill him, it was premeditated murder this time, not the usual second degree murder.
What? That guy was a sniper out for blood. He wasn't taking a stroll and enjoying his 2nd Amendment right. If he wanted to surrender, he would've laid down his rifle and yelled surrender or waived his white undershoot or w.e.
 

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How do you met the test of immediate threat when a guy is cornered and you have time to rig a robot to go kill him? that is nonsense. The Robot could have carried tear gas and stun grenades. This was premeditated murder by the cops, yet again.
Read that link by Smallcock on the robot. (The article does say that the use of the robot does raise some concerns).

It is not designed to shoot tear gas or pull a pin on a grenade and lob it to the perpetrator. But it can carry C4 explosives and is equipped with cameras. You might say it was sent on a robotic suicide mission.

Tear gas can only work if the perp is inside a fairly sealed room close to police launchers. But this guy was shooting cops from afar and was somewhat protected by his position.
 

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What? That guy was a sniper out for blood. He wasn't taking a stroll and enjoying his 2nd Amendment right. If he wanted to surrender, he would've laid down his rifle and yelled surrender or waived his white undershoot or w.e.
Some people also complained that OBL was in his underwear and didn't have his AK-47 ready when the Seals got him. It's not the Seals' fault that OBL wasn't ready for a fight when he was cornered.
 

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Some people also complained that OBL was in his underwear and didn't have his AK-47 ready when the Seals got him. It's not the Seals' fault that OBL wasn't ready for a fight when he was cornered.
Really? I saw that docu-drama and thought he grabbed a rifle but they got to him first. In any event, he was wanted, Dead or Alive. Fuck OBL.
 
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