Three Dallas police officers deceased along with seven wounded tonight during protest

[derrick76]

This guy gets it

Canadian lives don't matter then? Or does that fall under all lives? Sadly, he like so many missed the point.

But back to Police Lives Matter. Of course it does. That is why, unlike you and I (assuming you're not a police officer), they can get away with doing things we can't.

I sigh ever time I meet up with my NYPD cousin. Can't believe my life is worth less than his.

 

[canada-man]

BLM is not the organization for the discussion of black on black crime. Other movements take care of that issue.

It would appear some people want black people to just go with the flow and take the abuse from the state. This makes no sense. The problem is you and others don't see what efforts are being made in certain communities to combat violence, because the media isn't there to show you. They control the narrative. Not those organisations.

Further, there is a difference between calling all cops racists and calling the police (organisation) institutionally racist.

name one movement that is dealing with black on black crime like the 60 plus shootings in Chicago on the July 4th weekend?

 

[Occasionally]

BLM is not the organization for the discussion of black on black crime. Other movements take care of that issue.

It would appear some people want black people to just go with the flow and take the abuse from the state. This makes no sense. The problem is you and others don't see what efforts are being made in certain communities to combat violence, because the media isn't there to show you. They control the narrative. Not those organisations.

Further, there is a difference between calling all cops racists and calling the police (organisation) institutionally racist.

Lots of one sided responses here.

If there are lots of organizations trying to fix black on black crime, but the media doesn't feel like showing it, you can say the same thing about the police. The only you hear about cops in the news is when they are involved in a shootout. You never hear about the good things they do. Cops solve lots of issues, but you don't hear about them unless it's a big splashy scene.

Also, you are making an assumption when people say cops are racist that they selectively mean only some cops are. Even if some cops are racist (which there surely are just like in any industry), making a blanket claim that the police are institutionally racist means the claim assumes a good portion of policing is racist as opposed to small pockets or one-off cops. There are rogue cops that make police forces look bad, but I don't see how the blanket policing is racist.

That's like a counter claim saying blank people are institutionally a group of crooks. Look at prison inmates and there is large disproportionate number of inmates who are black. Does that mean black people are institutionally a bunch of crooks? No, because the number of incarcerated blank people is a small number of the overall black population.

Another institutionally invalid claim would be Muslim people are terrorists. Sure, it seems most terrorist acts and bombers are Muslim or middle eastern. But compare the number of trouble makers compared to the whole population and it's super small. So no, they are not institutionally a bunch of terrorists.

Lastly, the entire debacle of cops vs Blacks would be mostly solved easily if there was one thing that was done..... if the black community as a whole smartened up and didn't do so many shenanigans and crime to begin with. That's why there are so many interactions between cops and blacks. If things simmered down, there would be fewer cop interactions, fewer cops patrolling their neighbourhoods, and cops would move onto different places in the city.

If cops were so anti-minority, then how come you never see cops going nuts and arresting, wrestling and doing shootouts with Indians and Asians? They are minorities too. And Indians have dark skin as well. If cops were institutionally racist, they would be going at it with everyone who isn't white. But they don't.

Humans are emotional. Black guys go nuts with anti-cop rants and killing cops. Cops go nuts and go overboard with beating or killing Blacks when they shouldn't. If things eased up, you'd have less people going bonkers and trying to get at the other side..... and that's actually the answer to why cops, Indians and Asians don't seem to get into debacles. Neither side does anything dumb to the other, so they live in peaceful harmony. Doesn't seem hard to me.

 

[derrick76]

Lots of one sided responses here.

If there are lots of organizations trying to fix black on black crime, but the media doesn't feel like showing it, you can say the same thing about the police. The only you hear about cops in the news is when they are involved in a shootout. You never hear about the good things they do. Cops solve lots of issues, but you don't hear about them unless it's a big splashy scene.

Also, you are making an assumption when people say cops are racist that they selectively mean only some cops are. Even if some cops are racist (which there surely are just like in any industry), making a blanket claim that the police are institutionally racist means the claim assumes a good portion of policing is racist as opposed to small pockets or one-off cops. There are rogue cops that make police forces look bad, but I don't see how the blanket policing is racist.

That's like a counter claim saying blank people are institutionally a group of crooks. Look at prison inmates and there is large disproportionate number of inmates who are black. Does that mean black people are institutionally a bunch of crooks? No, because the number of incarcerated blank people is a small number of the overall black population.

Another institutionally invalid claim would be Muslim people are terrorists. Sure, it seems most terrorist acts and bombers are Muslim or middle eastern. But compare the number of trouble makers compared to the whole population and it's super small. So no, they are not institutionally a bunch of terrorists.

Lastly, the entire debacle of cops vs Blacks would be mostly solved easily if there was one thing that was done..... if the black community as a whole smartened up and didn't do so many shenanigans and crime to begin with. That's why there are so many interactions between cops and blacks. If things simmered down, there would be fewer cop interactions, fewer cops patrolling their neighbourhoods, and cops would move onto different places in the city.

If cops were so anti-minority, then how come you never see cops going nuts and arresting, wrestling and doing shootouts with Indians and Asians? They are minorities too. And Indians have dark skin as well. If cops were institutionally racist, they would be going at it with everyone who isn't white. But they don't.

Humans are emotional. Black guys go nuts with anti-cop rants and killing cops. Cops go nuts and go overboard with beating or killing Blacks when they shouldn't. If things eased up, you'd have less people going bonkers and trying to get at the other side..... and that's actually the answer to why cops, Indians and Asians don't seem to get into debacles. Neither side does anything dumb to the other, so they live in peaceful harmony. Doesn't seem hard to me.

You need to hear news about Police doing THEIR JOBS? What a novel concept.

Unlike you, I don't need a novel to get the point across, so here goes.

Only one thing needs to be done to solve this, and that is police need to start doing their jobs properly or find another job. Simple

This distrust of police start way back when blacks have zero rights. What you see now is a product of hundreds of years of Amerikkkana. You really think this mess started in the 60s or 70s or 80s??

PS: That stupid line of argument about 'blank' people being institutionally a group of crooks, would make sense if Amerikkka's history of rape, torture and theft hadn't already been written.

 

[Occasionally]

You need to hear news about Police doing THEIR JOBS? What a novel concept.

Unlike you, I don't need a novel to get the point across, so here goes.

Only one thing needs to be done to solve this, and that is police need to start doing their jobs properly or find another job. Simple

This distrust of police start way back when blacks have zero rights. What you see now is a product of hundreds of years of Amerikkkana. You really think this mess started in the 60s or 70s or 80s??

PS: That stupid line of argument about 'blank' people being institutionally a group of crooks, would make sense if Amerikkka's history of rape, torture and theft hadn't already been written.

I'm not a cop. And I'm not black.

I sit on the sidelines peacefully and watch the dramatics. Aside from a few speeding and parking tickets (which were all my fault), I've never had issues with cops. I've been pulled over when getting stopped at a RIDE stop and they let me go in 5 seconds. Woop-dee-do.

As I said in an earlier post, I find all these articles and videos both entertainment, but also silly.

And you what? it will continue for ages. I don't see black people forging ahead like Indians and Asians, so they will likely keep getting into trouble, which the cops will come by and resolve the situation. And sometimes that resolution is from an angry cop whose seen enough and goes overboard. As I told you before, people are human. They aren't robots. So emotions take over..... and cops are the ones with training, gear and buddies to back him up. So to fight back is likely a losing situation, as you'll get your ass handed to you.

Keep your nose clean and cops won't get involved. But keep on attracting attention and guess whose the first to show up.... cops.

Live and learn.

 

[derrick76]

I'm not a cop. And I'm not black.

I sit on the sidelines peacefully and watch the dramatics. Aside from a few speeding and parking tickets (which were all my fault), I've never had issues with cops. I've been pulled over when getting stopped at a RIDE stop and they let me go in 5 seconds. Woop-dee-do.

As I said in an earlier post, I find all these articles and videos both entertainment, but also silly.

And you what? it will continue for ages. I don't see black people forging ahead like Indians and Asians, so they will likely keep getting into trouble, which the cops will come by and resolve the situation. And sometimes that resolution is from an angry cop whose seen enough and goes overboard. As I told you before, people are human. They aren't robots. So emotions take over..... and cops are the ones with training, gear and buddies to back him up.

Keep your nose clean and cops won't get involved. But keep on attracting attention,and guess whose the first to show up.... cops.

Stop taking about Indians and Asians as if they had the same experience of Amerikkkana as blacks did. I am only taking about the treatment, and nothing else. As you may notice, mot of the blacks in the SUA that reach far arrived from Africa in the last couple of decades or so. only Native Indians and Blacks were the proverbial beating sticks throughout America's history.

My nose is very clean and cops still get involved. The stories I could tell you. Ever heard the expression"my skin is my sin"? Did you see the video of the East Indian man attacked by cops for no reason, and they apologised to him when they found out he wasn't black?

Think on that.

Life isn't as black and white (no pun intended) as you think.

Keep blaming the victim. That seems to be a popular practice (if she didn't wear that she wouldn't have got raped).

PS: An educated and well to do n-word is still an n-word. That is the reality we live in.

 

[eznutz]

Dallas police attempt to pin the blame on Public Enemy's Prof. Griff.
https://dpdbeat.com/2016/07/08/investigative-update-regarding-the-deadly-attack-on-police-officers/

The deceased suspect has been identified as Micah Johnson, B/M/25. The suspect has no criminal history. Information provided through the course of the investigation, indicates that the suspect was an Army veteran and others have identified him as a loner. The suspect’s Facebook account included the following names and information: Fahed Hassen, Richard GRIFFIN aka Professor Griff, GRIFFIN embraces a radical form of Afrocentrism, and GRIFFIN wrote a book A Warriors Tapestry.

 

[Occasionally]

Stop taking about Indians and Asians as if they had the same experience of Amerikkkana as blacks did. I am only taking about the treatment, and nothing else. As you may notice, mot of the blacks in the SUA that reach far arrived from Africa in the last couple of decades or so. only Native Indians and Blacks were the proverbial beating sticks throughout America's history.

My nose is very clean and cops still get involved. The stories I could tell you. Ever heard the expression"my skin is my sin"? Did you see the video of the East Indian man attacked by cops for no reason, and they apologised to him when they found out he wasn't black?

Think on that.

Life isn't as black and white (no pun intended) as you think.

Keep blaming the victim. That seems to be a popular practice (if she didn't wear that she wouldn't have got raped).

PS: An educated and well to do n-word is still an n-word. That is the reality we live in.

What;'s wrong with bringing up other ethnicities? If cops are so racist, then how come you never hear about other groups of people getting oppressed by cops?

If you're too afraid to admit why, I'll tell you why. Because Indian and Asian people typically don't create trouble. Not hard to understand. Keep your nose clean and it gives cops little reason to come by.

 

[canada-man]

and if the cops hate black people so much How comes Black African immigrants do not have problems with police killing their young men? they are not being "oppressed" by American police.

 

[derrick76]

What;'s wrong with bringing up other ethnicities?

If cops are so racist, then how come you never hear about other groups of people getting oppressed by cops?

I gave you an example to (sort of) show you the systemic problem, and it seems to have flown over your head. Again, we are talking about the institution and not each individual.

On another note, you do know that a white offender can get probation for the same crime that a black one commits. This is how they got blacks into the prison system from early on. Given freedom to have it taken a way right away. It still goes on to this day.

There have been studies on this.

I mean, I could ask you why weren't other groups hung from trees and lynched. I guess throughout American history, it was the negro that needed to be put in his place.

 

[derrick76]

and if the cops hate black people so much How comes Black African immigrants do not have problems with police killing their young men? they are not being "oppressed" by American police.

Are you serious? I wonder from what region the guy Bruce Springsteen write that song "41 shots" about came from.

You guys are oblivious to what life is like on the 'other side'. I love reading your fluffy bunny rabbit and rainbows privileged comments, not that I'd trade my life for yours.

Just saying...

 

[Occasionally]

I gave you an example to (sort of) show you the systemic problem, and it seems to have flown over your head. Again, we are talking about the institution and not each individual.

On another note, you do know that a white offender can get probation for the same crime that a black one commits. This is how they got blacks into the prison system from early on. Given freedom to have it taken a way right away. It still goes on to this day.

There have been studies on this.

I mean, I could ask you why weren't other groups hung from trees and lynched. I guess throughout American history, it was the negro that needed to be put in his place.

I guess you can't answer why cops don't hassle other minorities, despite being "institutionally racist" as you claimed before.

Don't worry. I already know the answer. I was just wondering if you'd have the balls to admit it yourself.

Keeping your nose clean will solve many issues, and that goes for black on black crime, and any black/police confrontations. Some reason you don't understand that.

That's the key reason why cops don't hassle other groups. And none of them hassle or shoot cops back.

 

[derrick76]

I guess you can't answer why cops don't hassle other minorities, despite being "institutionally racist" as you claimed before.

Don't worry. I already know the answer. I was just wondering if you'd have the balls to admit it yourself.

Keeping your nose clean will solve many issues, and that goes for black on black crime, and any black/police confrontations. Some reason you don't understand that.

That's the key reason why cops don't hassle other groups. And none of them hassle or shoot cops back.

I showed you the mindset, and that is to harass BLACK people. The former slaves. The former PROPERTY. If you think the police give a shit about black on black crime I have a bridge to sell you. If you think they are going to harass blacks for that, I'll upgrade that bridge to an island. An officer harassing an east Indian man just because thought he was black (due to dark skin) is telling. The dude wasn't even that dark if at all.

Whites don't shoot cops? I am dying with laughter here.

Keeping your nose clean WILL not solve any issues. They harass bankers, engineers, doctors and accountants! The difference is that they rarely go much further than "you n-words don't deserve this mercedes" or "which bush university gave you a medical degree?" because they know what time it is...if you know what I mean.

Hell, they even harass and attack OTHER POLICE OFFICERS, who happen to be BLACK.

I'll just take this to mean that you don't understand the concept of institutionalized racism.

Off topic: My sister is a doctor. You still to this day have white patients asking for another doctor upon catching a glimpse of her. Life is too funny.

Have a good day.

 

[Celticman]

Not unless you give them a chance to surrender. If that is your standard and some cop thinks you are an active threat its ok to kill you? I think that is how we got here. By people shitting their pants and pulling the trigger because of cowardice.

Do you know definitively that he was not given a chance to surrender? Not wanting to have a gunfight with a heavily armed criminal who has just killed 5 cops is hardly cowardice. One thing that stood out as this sad event was erupting was the b**********y of the cops running towards the gunfire as noted by several media outlets.

 

[Occasionally]

I showed you the mindset, and that is to harass BLACK people. The former slaves. The former PROPERTY. If you think the police give a shit about black on black crime I have a bridge to sell you. If you think they are going to harass blacks for that, I'll upgrade that bridge to an island. An officer harassing an east Indian man just because thought he was black (due to dark skin) is telling. The apologies that ensue hilarious.

Whites don't shoot cops? I am dying with laughter here.

Keeping your nose clean WILL not solve any issues. They harass bankers, engineers, doctors and accountants! The difference is that they rarely go much further than "you n-words don't deserve this mercedes" or "which bush university gave you a medical degree?" because they know what time it is...if you know what I mean.

Hell, they even harass and attack OTHER POLICE OFFICERS, who happen to be BLACK.

I'll just take this to mean that you don't understand the concept of institutionalized racism.

Off topic: My sister is a doctor. You still to this day have white patients asking for another doctor upon catching a glimpse of her. Life is too funny.

Have a good day.

You sure seem to have a blanket mindset about police force antics. lol

Bringing up some one-off cop antics against an Indian guy is nothing. However, there is longstanding cops vs Black confrontations, while there is basically zero cops vs Indian/Asian confrontations despite them being minorites too, and Indians have dark skin.

Keep your nose clean and most cops will ignore you. Cause an uproar, and they come storming down the road in multiple cars.

As for your sister getting asked for a different doctor, who cares. Some people like seeing medical staff that are their own culture. My Asian friends seem to go to Asian docs and dentists, and my Indian friends seem to seek out Indian medical staff. For older people (parents or older), they often prefer that because of language issues.

And the same sometimes goes for real estate reps. The older people feel more comfortable speaking to them in their native language than picking a white guy.

Maybe if your sister can prove to patients she can speak Chinese or Indian, she'd get more patients.

 

[canada-man]

Are you serious? I wonder from what region the guy Bruce Springsteen write that song "41 shots" about came from.

You guys are oblivious to what life is like on the 'other side'. I love reading your fluffy bunny rabbit and rainbows privileged comments, not that I'd trade my life for yours.

Just saying...

yes explain why only black americans not black african immigrants always have problems with the police?

can you explain why Black Immigrants are doing better than American Blacks if there is "institutional racism"?

http://atlantablackstar.com/2015/06...grants-educated-make-money-african-americans/

“Black immigrants are doing better economically than Blacks born in the U.S. Household incomes for foreign-born Blacks are, on average, $10,000 higher than U.S.-born Blacks. And Black immigrants are less likely to live in poverty,” according to a Black Enterprise article by Stacey Tisdale.



and what do you mean by privileged comments? dude speak english not leftist sociology speaks

 

[derrick76]

You sure seem to have a blanket mindset about police force antics. lol

Bringing up some one-off cop antics against an Indian guy is nothing. However, there is longstanding cops vs Black confrontations, while there is basically zero cops vs Indian/Asian confrontations despite them being minorites too, and Indians have dark skin.

Keep your nose clean and most cops will ignore you. Cause an uproar, and they come storming down the road in multiple cars.

As for your sister getting asked for a different doctor, who cares. Some people like seeing medical staff that are their own culture. My Asian friends seem to go to Asian docs and dentists, and my Indian friends seem to seek out Indian medical staff. For older people (parents or older), they often prefer that because of language issues.

And the same sometimes goes for real estate reps. The older people feel more comfortable speaking to them in their native language than picking a white guy.

Maybe if your sister can prove to patients she can speak Chinese or Indian, she'd get more patients.

I don't have a mindset. I know them. I lived it. Ever heard the My cousin walks that that thin blue line (NYPD)...cautiously.

The white patients in Timmins and Parry Sound don't speak 'Chinese' or 'Indian', whatever those are!!! And she gets all the patients she needs by the way. She doesn't need racist ones. Unless stating that black doctors are not real doctors isn't racist.

Not all Indians have dark skin. The ones with are usually in the lower caste, and heavily mistreated, by the way.

And your nose clean argument is rubbish. I already dispelled that notion but you keep parroting the same tired line. Keep nose clean. Keep nose clean.

His nose may have been clean, but Volpe wanted to clean his insides

 

[derrick76]

yes explain why only black americans not black african immigrants always have problems with the police?

can you explain why Black Immigrants are doing better than American Blacks if there is "institutional racism"?

http://atlantablackstar.com/2015/06...grants-educated-make-money-african-americans/

“Black immigrants are doing better economically than Blacks born in the U.S. Household incomes for foreign-born Blacks are, on average, $10,000 higher than U.S.-born Blacks. And Black immigrants are less likely to live in poverty,” according to a Black Enterprise article by Stacey Tisdale.



and what do you mean by privileged comments? dude speak english not leftist sociology speaks

I speak good enough English. Perhaps you should learn to read and comprehend. Or would you like the ABC for dummies version? That, Black immigrants do better than Blacks born in the USA, was never in dispute, and is a moot point since my point is that they STILL suffer the same pitfalls at the hands of police.

Thanks for helping develop my point.

 

[Occasionally]

I don't have a mindset. I know them. I lived it. Ever heard the My cousin walks that that thin blue line (NYPD)...cautiously.

The white patients in Timmins and Parry Sound don't speak 'Chinese' or 'Indian', whatever those are!!! And she gets all the patients she needs by the way. She doesn't need racist ones. Unless stating that black doctors are not real doctors isn't racist.

Not all Indians have dark skin. The ones with are usually in the lower caste, and heavily mistreated, by the way.

And your nose clean argument is rubbish. I already dispelled that notion but you keep parroting the same tired line. Keep nose clean. Keep nose clean.

His nose may have been clean, but Volpe wanted to clean his insides

Well too bad. As people know, there's always going to be racism to some extent. But things are better if people don't act like asses. So if you are as clean cut of a guy you claim to be, tough luck. You have been lumped into the conflict because many people of your background cause a disproportionate amount of issues. You got accept it and suck it up.

You whine about being mistreated, despite being a good guy, yet have no problem claiming cops are racist with a blanket statement.

Not all Indians have dark skin. The ones with are usually in the lower caste, and heavily mistreated, by the way.

Well, that's one heck of an assumption and racist claim! lol

If you are to whine about being a victim, then don't be an ass slinging mud at others.

 

[derrick76]

Well too bad. As people know, there's always going to be racism to some extent. But things are better if people don't act like asses. So if you are as clean cut of a guy you claim to be, tough luck. You have been lumped into the conflict because many people of your background cause a disproportionate amount of issues. You got accept it and suck it up.

You whine about being mistreated, despite being a good guy, yet have no problem claiming cops are racist with a blanket statement.


Well, that's one heck of an assumption and racist claim! lol

If you are to whine about being a victim, then don't be an ass slinging mud at others.

Stating that dark skin people are treated poorly India is racist? This is not up for discussion. This is a fact. The same with some Caribbean countries. Those with fairer skin are treated better and have better access. That is what is called Colorism/Colourism.

I think I am speaking to a half wit. Do you even know what racism is anyway? You seem beyond clueless.

However, you telling me that I should just accept racial abuse because some other guy commits a crime. That tells me all I need to know about you. You know what profiling is, right? Funny how that never works the other way around in other facets of life. People like you are what is wrong with society.

And for the last time, and please prove to me that you are able to read and comprehend. There is a difference between stating that all cops are racist and that the institution of policing is in fact racist. This has been already proven and accepted. Fight it all you want.