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Butler1000

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OMG that is so stupid. The vast majority of Jewish Nobel prize winners were European or American. Doubtless, there would have been many more Nobel prize winners and scientific breakthroughs had the Holocaust never happened. An incalculable amount of brain power was lost to the world.

And as for Israel providing a beachead for democracy in the ME? Do you ever think about the stupid shit you post? It's as if you are so desperate trying to get the upper hand in whatever argument you are embroiled in, that you will say anything.
Do you ever think your meagre opinion means nothing to me? It would be a rare time you are right.

As for the Nobel winner the creation of Israel also created the notion that Anti Semitism is wrong. Something that was decidedly lacking in Europe. It gave them a voice and power on the world stage.

Feel free to either argue the point or place me on ignore. Because really other than an occasional ad hominin attack you offer little to the conversation.
 

Frankfooter

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Look who is the one in hysterics now.

Because you know I'm right. The progressive vote in many cases is walking away.
Hysterics?
How many posts ranting about Biden have you done here in the last weeK?

Do you have a single poll that says Biden is losing dem support?
You're losing it.
 

Knuckle Ball

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OMG that is so stupid. The vast majority of Jewish Nobel prize winners were European or American. Doubtless, there would have been many more Nobel prize winners and scientific breakthroughs had the Holocaust never happened. An incalculable amount of brain power was lost to the world.

And as for Israel providing a beachead for democracy in the ME? Do you ever think about the stupid shit you post? It's as if you are so desperate trying to get the upper hand in whatever argument you are embroiled in, that you will say anything.
Do you ever think your meagre opinion means nothing to me? It would be a rare time you are right.

As for the Nobel winner the creation of Israel also created the notion that Anti Semitism is wrong. Something that was decidedly lacking in Europe. It gave them a voice and power on the world stage.

Feel free to either argue the point or place me on ignore. Because really other than an occasional ad hominin attack you offer little to the conversation.


B1000 is being kinda surly today as his whole Bernie Bros “movement” collapses under the weight of its own bullshit.
 

Butler1000

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B1000 is being kinda surly today as his whole Bernie Bros “movement” collapses under the weight of its own bullshit.
A set back in a long road. The movement is larger. Better funded. And will be more committed.

This isn't about Sanders. It's about the movement.
 

Butler1000

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Hysterics?
How many posts ranting about Biden have you done here in the last weeK?

Do you have a single poll that says Biden is losing dem support?
You're losing it.
Wait until Biden is exposed. It will happen. His staff can't hide him.
 

shack

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OMG that is so stupid. The vast majority of Jewish Nobel prize winners were European or American. Doubtless, there would have been many more Nobel prize winners and scientific breakthroughs had the Holocaust never happened. An incalculable amount of brain power was lost to the world.

And as for Israel providing a beachead for democracy in the ME? Do you ever think about the stupid shit you post?
Which middle eastern country has a truer democracy than Israel?
 

bver_hunter

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Wait until Biden is exposed. It will happen. His staff can't hide him.
You really buy the alt right Conspiracy Theorists who post fake online nonsense about Biden on a constant basis. Then you attack the MSM for outing them for what they are!!
 

Frankfooter

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Which middle eastern country has a truer democracy than Israel?
Which other middle eastern country won't give half the people living under their rule the vote?
Lebanon is more representative as is Tunisia, even for your very low bar.
 

shack

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Which other middle eastern country won't give half the people living under their rule the vote?
That's a whatabout, the same shit you complain about when a trumptard dodges a question with a "what about Obama".

Which middle eastern country has a truer democracy than Israel?
 

onthebottom

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That's a whatabout, the same shit you complain about when a trumptard dodges a question with a "what about Obama".

Which middle eastern country has a truer democracy than Israel?
Having the nicest house in a shitty neighborhood doesn’t mean the house is inhabitable
 

shack

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Having the nicest house in a shitty neighborhood doesn’t mean the house is inhabitable
In this case I am only asking him to back up that Israel's house is not the nicest in the neighbourhood. He will duck and dodge, but never admit it.
 

Frankfooter

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That's a whatabout, the same shit you complain about when a trumptard dodges a question with a "what about Obama".
Its not a whataboutism.
I ask you how you can call Israel a democracy when fully half of the population living under Israeli rule for the last half century doesn't get to vote.
What kind of democracy will never form a government with one party based on race?

Which middle eastern country has a truer democracy than Israel?
Answered.
Lebanon is more representative as is Tunisia, even for your very low bar.
 

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Which middle eastern country has a truer democracy than Israel?
None of them. Butler claimed that a good thing to come out of the Holocaust was "providing a beachhead for democracy in the ME". Although it is a good thing that jews have their own homeland, the idea that Israel will be able to spread democracy to their neighbours seems absurd to me.
 

Butler1000

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None of them. Butler claimed that a good thing to come out of the Holocaust was "providing a beachhead for democracy in the ME". Although it is a good thing that jews have their own homeland, the idea that Israel will be able to spread democracy to their neighbours seems absurd to me.
I agree so long as Muslims continue to embrace Sharia Law.

But they are a clear democracy. To say otherwise is a lie.
 

shack

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Lebanon is more representative as is Tunisia, even for your very low bar.
Why didn't you just put down my claim directly by saying that they are more democratic. Why do you use the word representative instead? What does that mean? How does it differ from democratic?

If you are using the word representative instead, I guess that means you agree that Israel is more democratic.
 
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