I'm just using the same inane logic you are usingFatume said:
"Without the minorities this country would still be something , dare I say a much safer place to live"
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"Without the minorities this country would still be something , dare I say a much safer place to live"
You know what Marco, you may be a racist and not even realize it.
In fact I'll take it a step further. Almost every race around the world has a tinge of racism in them when it comes to outsiders (no matter what color or race).
When I was in Tokyo I couldnt go into most bars (signs that said 'Japanese only)
When I was in Bangkok they had 2 price lists, one for locals and one for foreigners (guess which one was higher????)
I can go on and on but I hate typing
In fact I'll take it a step further. Almost every race around the world has a tinge of racism in them when it comes to outsiders (no matter what color or race).
When I was in Tokyo I couldnt go into most bars (signs that said 'Japanese only)
When I was in Bangkok they had 2 price lists, one for locals and one for foreigners (guess which one was higher????)
I can go on and on but I hate typing
I want proof.fullmetal said:its true according to police reports and jails , visable minority makes up the majority of crime which includes : terrorism, shootings, murder and robbery . stats dont like , visit any jail or look at the crime stats , they also live off the welfare system which hardworking canadians pay heavy tax to support them and thier numerous kids , hows that for diversity .
Show me the studies and links to polls with respect to what you've just posted. Otherwise it's just anecdotal crap. Show me the evidence.
How is my logic inane. Do u honestly believe that visible minorities do not commit more than their fair share of crime. Police Chief Fantino was persecuted for even daring to go near racial profiling. U obviously don't live anywhere near Toronto if u think my comment is inaccurate. Take a walk in Malvern, Jane/Finch, Kipling/Albion, Oakwood/St.Clair, Morningside/Lawrence and a host of other areas. What do u find? High crime statistics. Committed by who? Please answer this question honestly and then return yourself to reality. I am stating facts not my opinions.holden said:
The Tokyo example surprises me. I thought Japan was far better then that. That's outright racist. As for the Bangkok example, that's just money grubbing businessmen. In fact, my friend took me to Jamaica once. Even though he is Jamaican and they tried to charge him tourist rates knowing that he was from Canada. (he foolishly disclosed that to them before they priced him a room)
I'm not advocating that minorities take over and then start smacking white people around.
I'm not advocating that minorities take over and then start smacking white people around.
It's been my experience that those who complain loudest about racism are the ones least able to compete on a level playing field. Finding external reasons (some damn bad driving, street spitting non English speaking types are taking all the good jobs!) for your sorry lot in life is counterproductive and pathetic.
Fatume said:
Take a stroll around the trailer parks and tell me what you find? Mullets, 'Poison' T-shirts, uneducated people waiting for tornadoes to carry them away or UFO's to transport them for anal probing
Cardinal Fang said:
I feel sorry for you if u are that naive. There is a reason studies like this cannot be published. Imagine the backlash it would cause. I have several friends who are police officers and except for the fact that they would be reprimanded they would gladly speak up. Unfortunately our charter of rights affords more protection to the minority than the majority and as such the majority must shut up or fear being labelled.
There are plenty of published studies online that examine the relationship between crime and immigrants/refugees based on prison population. Just Google it and you'll find a treasure trove of information.Marco said:
The statistics and the studies do not support the stupid comment made.
Get a life people.
http://www.fcpp.org/pdf/PS 17 Should We Close Our Borders final.pdf
From: http://canada.metropolis.net/research-policy/wienfeld/criminology_e.html
"In Canada, we know that (federal) incarceration rates have been lower for the foreign born than for the native born, throughout the post-war period. (This was NOT the case in the pre-war period, when immigrants were overwhelmingly white European and very over-represented in penitentiaries.) We also know that perception of the issue -- associating criminality with immigrants -- is not a new phenomenon in Canadian history, and has been fuelled by racism and xenophobia."
http://www.fcpp.org/pdf/PS 17 Should We Close Our Borders final.pdf
From: http://canada.metropolis.net/research-policy/wienfeld/criminology_e.html
"In Canada, we know that (federal) incarceration rates have been lower for the foreign born than for the native born, throughout the post-war period. (This was NOT the case in the pre-war period, when immigrants were overwhelmingly white European and very over-represented in penitentiaries.) We also know that perception of the issue -- associating criminality with immigrants -- is not a new phenomenon in Canadian history, and has been fuelled by racism and xenophobia."
Cardinal Fang
Race by Race
Prison admissions per 100,000 members of a racial group
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Black/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////3,686
Aboriginal///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// 1,991
Total population////////////// 827
White///////////// 706
Arab/////////// 482
East Indian///////// 456
Asian////// 353
Toronto Globe and Mail, Jan. 18, 1996
http://www.storm.ca/~moparman/globe.htm
Race by Race
Prison admissions per 100,000 members of a racial group
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Black/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////3,686
Aboriginal///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// 1,991
Total population////////////// 827
White///////////// 706
Arab/////////// 482
East Indian///////// 456
Asian////// 353
Toronto Globe and Mail, Jan. 18, 1996
http://www.storm.ca/~moparman/globe.htm
http://www.web.net/~ccr/myths.htm
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Myth #4 Increased immigration leads to an increase in crime.
In fact .....
- There is no established connection between immigration and crime. Immigrants are actually less likely to commit major crimes than the Canadian-born, and are under-represented in the prison population. According to the most recent available figures, 20.5% of the Canadian population older than 15 had been born outside the country, while only 11.9% of the total prison population were foreign born.(17)
- Immigrants are just people like anyone else - a few end up in jail, most are law-abiding."
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Myth #4 Increased immigration leads to an increase in crime.
In fact .....
- There is no established connection between immigration and crime. Immigrants are actually less likely to commit major crimes than the Canadian-born, and are under-represented in the prison population. According to the most recent available figures, 20.5% of the Canadian population older than 15 had been born outside the country, while only 11.9% of the total prison population were foreign born.(17)
- Immigrants are just people like anyone else - a few end up in jail, most are law-abiding."
