So I guess all you claims about wanting a ceasefire are bullshit.
Hamas people have been quoted saying that stopping the fighting and massive influxes of aid are a "trap" to have them release some hostages (as the UNSC demanded).
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Hamas people have been quoted saying that stopping the fighting and massive influxes of aid are a "trap" to have them release some hostages (as the UNSC demanded).
But you have never once criticized Hamas or those among the campus protesters who want Jews removed from the region.
You know those Israeli protests are massive.
Clearly not what I said, valcazar.
Israel is less likely bomb the shite out of all areas of Gaza if that means they would kill the rest of the hostages.
Less killing.
I don't think it can last that long.
North Gaza is in famine and its spreading throughout, according to WFP.
By the summer there are warnings that half a million will die from malnutrition, injuries and lack of medical care.
I agree he's a sick fuck but in the past he's also known when to stop before international outrage destroys zionism.
This time its less clear.
The ICC is reportedly freaking him out, Hamas is demanding it to the US as part of a ceasefire deal but Netanyahu also continues to say he's going to do it regardles..
What a ridiculous line.
Cut all aid to Israel, say you won't stop any UNSC resolutions, support the ICC and withdraw all military aid.
That would end the genocide in a day.
You've never criticized zombies or unicorns either.
Let me know when you have some things that really happened and we can discuss them.
Hamas is in discussion with the US to get a guarantee that Israel won't attack Rafah after the 40 day 'ceasefire'.
Netanyahu says he'll attack regardless.
Do you back Israel attacking Rafah, where about 1 million refugees live in tents, where 600,000 children live?
Hamas wants guarantees from US that Israel will not invade Rafah
Osama Hamdan, a senior Spokesperson for Hamas, says that to agree to any ceasefire deal, his group needs a guarantee from the US that Israeli forces will not launch a ground assault on Rafah.
“We are still talking about the main issues, which are the complete ceasefire and complete withdrawal [of Israel] from Gaza,” he told Al Jazeera. “Unfortunately, there was a clear statement from Netanyahu saying regardless of any ceasefire or not, he’ll continue the attack against Rafah – which means there will be no ceasefire.
“Our understanding to achieve a ceasefire means there will be no more attacks anywhere in Gaza, including Rafah.”
You do think the hostages are deterrence?
I thought you have said repeatedly that the Israel government has already killed many of them, doesn't care if they are returned, and the PR of them killing the hostages is beneficial to the resistance cause.
Why would that stop the genocide?
Also, you let food in, take them from the edge, then do another starvation bout next year.
Keeps the international pressure off but does significant progress in your genocidal cause.
Isn't that what you've said is going on and has been since the occupation?
So you think the threat of a Sebrenica is overblown?
What a ridiculous line.
You think that would end it in a day?
No, I have not repeatedly said those things.
The hostages only have real value for Hamas while living.
Israel has killed about 70 so far, including the three they shot waving white flags.
There is no sign that is or would happen, is there?
All they've done is block aid and then declare everything is getting through.
Not since the occupation, since the genocide.
Israel 'counted calories' in 2012 but the international outrage was too high and they stopped.
Since Oct they've been blocking almost all aid, letting nothing through for months then letting 1/6 the usual number of trucks through and declaring they are allowing everything needed.
Hard to say, isn't it?
They've made the plans but will they act?
Yes
End Negroponte, cut all aid, sponsor some UNSC resolutions.
Declare AIPAC to be foreign lobbyists.
Do you think Israel can continue this path without US support?
So you think the hostages are key to exerting leverage against Israel then?
The Israeli government is lying when they say they will continue the war after the hostages are returned?
You've said that this is a multi-year project.
Do you now think the only thing Israel is doing is the current military action?
Wait.
Now "the genocide" is only since October?
At least on this you are noting that decisions aren't set and there are multiple factors.
I see.
How does any of that guarantee Israel doesn't attack Rafah?
The Israeli government lies about just about everything in this war, I don't know why this would be different.
I think Biden is the key to leveraging pressure against Netanyahu.
Internal Israeli protests help.
What are you saying I said was a multi year project?
Where do you think I said this was the only thing they are doing?
When did I say otherwise?
Nothing guarantees a probability of zero anywhere, valcazar, certainly less so in politics.
But the biggest pressure on Netanyahu still comes from the US.
If everything they say is lies, then there can be no negotiation.
I was of the distinct impression that you felt the entire colonial project was a long-term genocide.
If that isn't what you are saying, my apologies.
But that's not the ask.
The ask is that the US guarantees no attack.
Withdrawing support doesn't do that in any way.
Are you saying instead the US should maintain all that support, but withdraw it if Israel attacks?
Or you demand a guarantee from Biden.
No, I've never thought that.
Previously I've just thought it a long term colonial settler project involved in very slow ethnic cleansing and apartheid rule.
This was a major change.
I think you are being picayune here, playing semantics.
Nobody can ever guarantee to control the acts of any other person, that is not the ask.
The ask is to promise to pressure Netanyahu to not attack Rafah.
No, I still think the US should use that pressure to force a ceasefire today.
But given that Genocide Joe thinks he's on some holy path, getting him to promise to use those powers to at least limit one element of the genocide is something.
By the way, how do you think Genocide Joe justifies his position when as a catholic the pope has repeatedly called for a ceasefire?
And what moral frame of reference do you use for justifying apartheid and genocide?
Stay on topic instead of deflecting.
You referenced the Pope as a moral authority we should listen to.
The Pope is against abortion. Will you follow the Pope's morality and condemn abortion.
Why would I hammy, I'm not catholic.
Here's today's question, hammy.
Whats the difference between saying you are the chosen people and saying you are the master race?
Stupid answer.
Because you're not Catholic why would you listen to anything that the Pope says? Yet here you were, quoting the Pope's opinion of the conflict/ceasefire?
Make up your mind. Does the Pope's opinion count or not?
Because Biden is a catholic, hammy.
I'm questioning how Genocide Joe can call himself a good catholic when his pope thinks he's evil.
This anyone you know, hammy?
No. That is untrue.
You quoted the Pope's opinion on Gaza as if he was a moral compass.
When I asked you if you then agree with his stance on abortion, you refused to answer because, as you said, you said that you're not Catholic. What you are not is truthful or moralistic.
You never directly provide answers. You only run away.
The dementia is getting worse, hammy.
Read the post, I brought up the pope because Biden is a catholic and he's supposed to be his moral leader.
