The Democratic Science Fiction Agenda Thread

[Dutch Oven]

You know that Canada does not criminalize abortion at any stage of pregnancy, huh? That's similar to what some Democrat pols are asking for.

But it's not a "push for abortion up to the date of birth". No Canadian doctor would perform a third trimester abortion unless there was a clear and serious risk to the mother's health or the foetus was unviable, or both. I suggest you read up on what full decrim of abortion actually means and maybe a text or two on medical ethics. You have no idea of this topic and you're embarrassing yourself.

What full decrim means is that a doctor can intervene and perform necessary life-saving care without fear of being prosecuted by someone like yourself who doesn't appreciate the medical ethics and science involved in some of these decisions.

Maybe a handful of nourishing grasshoppers might improve your mental functioning in this area.

If grasshoppers help, you should recommend them to yourself, since you failed to grasp the point of this thread.

 

[Dutch Oven]

Electricity is a fundamental force.

All chemistry is based on electricity, the sharing of electrons between atoms driven by the repulsive or attractive force of electricity.

Your body runs on electricity, photosynthesis runs on electricity, light which are photons are electromagnetic waves of electricity.

Here you are, intentionally avoiding the point again - which is that electrical energy will not get us to off-planet resources and colony sites. The fuel/energy source that we currently have, and which will move us most quickly towards the fuel/energy sources we will need in the future, is fossil fuels, whether applied to the production of materials (plastics, metals, etc.) or as an efficient power source for transportation, heating, food production, etc. etc. etc. There are no pending advances in the application of electrical energy that I am aware of to adapt to applications powerful enough to travel off planet. As such, it is a dead end. We need to focus on NEW energy sources, unless you share the nihiist philosophy of Insidious Von, in which case no productive discussion of the future is possible.

You're advocating to remove the best tools out of mankind's toolbox.

 

[HungSowel]

Here you are, intentionally avoiding the point again - which is that electrical energy will not get us to off-planet resources and colony sites. The fuel/energy source that we currently have, and which will move us most quickly towards the fuel/energy sources we will need in the future, is fossil fuels, whether applied to the production of materials (plastics, metals, etc.) or as an efficient power source for transportation, heating, food production, etc. etc. etc. There are no pending advances in the application of electrical energy that I am aware of to adapt to applications powerful enough to travel off planet. As such, it is a dead end. We need to focus on NEW energy sources, unless you share the nihiist philosophy of Insidious Von, in which case no productive discussion of the future is possible.

You're advocating to remove the best tools out of mankind's toolbox.

The current best conventional chemical rocket fuel (by energy density) which is hydrogen + Oxygen, both can be made through the application of electrolysis to water using electricity.

 

[Dutch Oven]

The current best conventional chemical rocket fuel (by energy density) which is hydrogen + Oxygen, both can be made through the application of electrolysis to water using electricity.

Where does that technology take us? Not far enough. We have to continue to develop our technology as fast as possible, and that means using the best inputs available, including energy inputs.

 

[Valcazar]

Sodom and Gomorrah have become our woke reality.

Our "woke reality" is about not welcoming strangers and offering hospitality?

 

[HungSowel]

Where does that technology take us? Not far enough. We have to continue to develop our technology as fast as possible, and that means using the best inputs available, including energy inputs.

But why is your fantasy of space colonization the right fantasy to save humanity? Why not time travel or replicator or holodeck technology?

 

[Dutch Oven]

But why is your fantasy of space colonization the right fantasy to save humanity? Why not time travel or replicator or holodeck technology?

Isn't there scientific consensus that resources which humans use and need exist off planet, and that the likelihood that there are human compatible habitats off planet (yet to be discovered) approaches 100% certainty?

You can't distinguish the pursuit of objectives supported by scientific certainty from pure speculation about "possible" technologies? That says it all about where you are coming from!

 

[Frankfooter]

Isn't there scientific consensus that resources which humans use and need exist off planet, and that the likelihood that there are human compatible habitats off planet (yet to be discovered) approaches 100% certainty?

You can't distinguish the pursuit of objectives supported by scientific certainty from pure speculation about "possible" technologies? That says it all about where you are coming from!

Same 'scientific consensus' that says Trump won the election, I'm afraid.
But if you want, we can start a gofundme campaign for your trip.

 

[HungSowel]

Isn't there scientific consensus that resources which humans use and need exist off planet, and that the likelihood that there are human compatible habitats off planet (yet to be discovered) approaches 100% certainty?

You can't distinguish the pursuit of objectives supported by scientific certainty from pure speculation about "possible" technologies? That says it all about where you are coming from!

To travel to new solar systems to find a new earth would take new physics, not new fuels.

 

[Dutch Oven]

To travel to new solar systems to find a new earth would take new physics, not new fuels.

Likely both, if you mean a new and better understanding of physics, rather than new laws of physics.

And, of course, one step at time. There are resources we need right in our own solar system. We simply need to be able to economically access them.

 

[HungSowel]

Likely both, if you mean a new and better understanding of physics, rather than new laws of physics.

And, of course, one step at time. There are resources we need right in our own solar system. We simply need to be able to economically access them.

Which part of physics do we need a better understanding of that will allow us to travel to other stars?

 

[basketcase]

There's a real pattern emerging in the Democratic Party agenda, and it is that their positions are now often mirroring the plots and themes of classic science fiction movies and novels.

Some quick examples:

1. The campaign to eat bugs. Is this foreshadowing the classic film Soylent Green (that was one of the steps towards eating humans - see the novel the film was based on - Make Room, Make Room by Harry Harrison). Maybe the Democrats meant to title their core agenda as The Soylent Green New Deal?

2. The push for abortion up to the date of birth. In Logan's Run, you could live until you were 30. Is this an even bolder move, limiting life to the age of 0?

The plot lines that allude to 1984, Animal Farm, and Brave New World are too numerous to even mention.

I encourage other TERBites to add to this list.

Are the Democrats stealing their policy from dystopian science fiction?

Let's hear from the science fiction fans out there!

Wow, the conspiracy mind...

You have the CHOICE to eat bugs of you want. They are a good source of protein. And no one is pushing for abortion up to birth despite whatever talking points OAN is giving you.

As for 1984, you might have some words with the right aligned media.

 

[basketcase]

The issue is the loonie left will want to make it the norm & FORCE others to accept it via restricting the supply of real chicken
...

??????????????
And I've seen nowhere that suggests wind and solar will make up 100% of our electrical needs.


All you have in an insane list of strawmen.

 

[basketcase]

Where does that technology take us? Not far enough. We have to continue to develop our technology as fast as possible, and that means using the best inputs available, including energy inputs.

Sorry but the science we currently have says large scale populations off Earth are essentially a non-starter. We're stuck with what we have.

 

[versitile1]

Right-tard-lican science fiction; the earth is only 4000 years old, and is flat, and man once walked with dinosaurs.

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Yes, these are hallucinations about some real things.
Many cultures eat insects. Insect products exist in food now. They are often an efficient formula of protein. In Singapore a company is growing actual chicken meat from actual chicken cells. Tastes like...chicken LOL. What if this becomes the norm? Sounds OK by me.
Wind and solar is supplementing the grid right now. Is it the only solution? No. But why not research renewable sources of energy? Maybe you'll discover how to store it so that it can be.
What happens in fox world is a kernel of truth is then distorted beyond its various nuances and then it takes on this cartoon version life and slung about all their networks and mocked. Exhibit A: no where does the green new deal say air travel will be banned. But opponents cite that all the time. Now, it could be inferred air travel might need to change. A kernel of truth. But not calling for banning air travel.

Chicken meat from chicken cells ? Makes you wonder what flesh light is coming up with

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Right-tard-lican science fiction; the earth is only 4000 years old, and is flat, and man once walked with dinosaurs.

Nah God put dinosaur bones here just to fuck with us.