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shack

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Or, Western governments can simply stop arming Israel. Just like they don't arm Sudan, or Eritrea, or whoever else.
Israel, because they were smart enough, made sure to make themselves an important ally to the US unlike those shithole countries. What do they do for the US?
Israel is almost as important to the US as the other way around. To treat Israel the same as those other countries is a completely moronic suggestion.
 

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Its pretty easy for most people to say 'yes, its shitty and should stop', instead of 'lets send more bombs to get those women and children'.
Just like how easy it is for you yell CEASEFIRE for the last 10 weeks while 15,000 Palestinians unnecessarily die instead of calling for a surrender and a release of the hostages.

It proves how easy it is for you to watch them die.
 

shack

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The blame is for zionists, not Jews.
So how many Zionists are we talking about here? How many Israelis are Zionists in Israel? Did Hamas only kill Zionists on Oct.7 or did they kill any non-Zionists Jews whom you love.

You think that all Jews in Israel are Zionists so you hate them all. As long as you refuse tell us what you think the ratio is, my claim stands. You blame and hate all Israeli Jews and you have not refuted it which means you accept it at face value.
 

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Israel, because they were smart enough, made sure to make themselves an important ally to the US unlike those shithole countries. What do they do for the US?
Israel is almost as important to the US as the other way around. To treat Israel the same as those other countries is a completely moronic suggestion.
Sometimes even AIPAC can't buy enough votes. Bummer Israel lost this election.

 

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Just like how easy it is for you yell CEASEFIRE for the last 10 weeks while 15,000 Palestinians unnecessarily die instead of calling for a surrender and a release of the hostages.

It proves how easy it is for you to watch them die.
32,000 have died at the hands of zionism so far.
Over 100,000 dead, injured or buried under rubble.

27 children have starved to death inside hospitals in Gaza because of zionists, countless others are dying and not being counted.
Zionism is as evil as nazism now.

The world calls for ceasefire, you try to blame the victim.
(though I do admit this meme is cruel to Gollum)



 
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Frankfooter

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So how many Zionists are we talking about here? How many Israelis are Zionists in Israel? Did Hamas only kill Zionists on Oct.7 or did they kill any non-Zionists Jews whom you love.

You think that all Jews in Israel are Zionists so you hate them all. As long as you refuse tell us what you think the ratio is, my claim stands. You blame and hate all Israeli Jews and you have not refuted it which means you accept it at face value.
I don't know, shack.

Why don't you tell me how many zionists are against apartheid, the occupation and are trying to stop the genocide?
Are there any?

How many zionists have protested the genocide, shack?


 

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Israel is almost as important to the US as the other way around.
Exactly what does Israel do for the US? Please tell me.
 
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shack

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Sometimes even AIPAC can't buy enough votes.
I didn't know that the name "Israel" was on the ballot.
Regardless, this will not change the US support for Israel.
 

shack

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Exactly what does Israel do for the US? Please tell me.
The US has lots of interests in the Middle East and Israel has one of, if not the best intelligence departments in the world and they keep the US very well informed of what is going on. They help the US to keep those interests protected. They also are the only democracy in the region and provide a strong deterrence to Iran, a mortal enemy to the US.

Do you think that the US has supported Israel for 75 years because of it's recipes for chicken noodle soup and pastrami? The US is looking out for #1, which is the US. So it's obvious that Israel is helping the US in some way(s). Use your imagination.
 

shack

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I don't know, shack.
You have opinions on everything and are never shy to share your opinion. Why not now.

In your opinion how many Israeli Jews are Zionists. What's your estimate?

You hate all Jews but are afraid to say so. So let's put it on the record and make it official. In your opinion all Jews in Israel are Zionists and you therefore hate all Jews in Israel.

Until you actually state that your opinion is different and you have a different number, it means that you accept my statement my and my statement stands.

Frank has admitted that he hates all Jews in Israel because he feels that they are all Zionists.

But, maybe you hate them all regardless of their position on Zionism. That's another possibility and you're just using Zionism as a false flag.
 

southpaw

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Do you think that the US has supported Israel for 75 years because of it's recipes for chicken noodle soup and pastrami?
No. I think that the US has supported Israel for 75 years because their politicians are bought and paid for by the Israel lobby.

 

Frankfooter

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No it's not. For many, it's because jews are not involved so these threads don't get spammed with dumb statements and twitter links.
Its only zionists that talk about 'the Jews'.
The rest of us are discussing zionists and Israeli government policy.

You do realize that your attitude makes Jews unsafe globally?
 

Frankfooter

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You hate all Jews but are afraid to say so.

Frank has admitted that he hates all Jews in Israel because he feels that they are all Zionists.

shack counter:
12 accusations of lying, 17 intentional misquotes - 0 proof

Not all Jews are zionists and not all zionists are Jews.
In the US most zionists are wacko born again christians hoping Israel will bring about armaggedon.
 

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Just like how easy it is for you yell CEASEFIRE for the last 10 weeks while 15,000 Palestinians unnecessarily die instead of calling for a surrender and a release of the hostages.

It proves how easy it is for you to watch them die.
And he stays silent that it was Hamas who rejected the latest ceasefire deal arranged by Qatar, Egypt, and the US.

Then he goes on to claim that the ceasefire has to be permanent before while also rejecting any kind of nego5tiated peace.
 

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Israel is apartheid, not democratic.
Thanks for disproving your apartheid claim. Any Israeli can vote for any party they want regardless of religion or ethnicity.

meanwhile you reject democratic principles every time you pretend to want a One State Peace that Palestinians overwhelmingly reject. Democracy is based on the Palestinians self determination not to become Israelis; the Palestinians with all the guns hating the idea that you and your white saviour complex has you demanding.
 

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Of course I care about Palestinians, Sudanese, the Ukrainians etc., We are not talking about what I care/don't care about...
Yet your whole contribution to this thread has been to bitch and moan that I brought the topic up.
 
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